I just saw the Torch passed from Ron to Rand

[ProBlue33]

As I watched the press conference with Rand Paul, Ron looked so old and frail, Rand looked fresh invigorated and went right after Obama.

I think once his son wins the senate seat, he will urge his son to run for President "as I am getting to old for this", he will fully support and do everything in his power to help his son.

2012 will be a year for a Paul just not the one we thought.

YouTube - Rand Paul's victory speech

[georgiaboy]

got a chill thinking 'bout that.

[mnewcomb]

Ron ain't going nowhere...

[sailingaway]

Ron Paul 2012 \ Rand Paul 2016

[ctiger2]

We live in strange times and anything could happen. Rand's a chip off the old block for sure. If he's not ready, Ron should run. 2012-2016 Ron and then Rand could do 2016-2024. By then this country should be back on track.

[CGeoffrion]

I still think Ron is the one to take it in 2012. Rand's victory will only help his father win. Besides, its too soon to thik about 2012. This is about much more than the political game, we have many more to awaken. Personally I can't wait to see the man Rand will become once he wins the general election. I don't denounce a Rand possibility I just need to see him on the Senate floor first and see what he can do. His potential seems limitless.

[ProBlue33]

Hey if Obama can do it, why not Rand?

[lx43]

You gotta love Ron Paul if it wasn't for him running in 2007/2008 I don't think none of this would be possible.

The liberty message may well have died without him.

[Original_Intent]

Ron Paul 2012 \ Rand Paul 2016

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[brandon]

Rand is no replacement for Ron. Not even close.

[MikeStanart]

You gotta love Ron Paul if it wasn't for him running in 2007/2008 I don't think none of this would be possible.

The liberty message may well have died without him.

I concur. Whatever the case, the flame of liberty will live on.

[BuddyRey]

Ron? Old and frail?

You must have been watching a TV with a helluva lot of static on it. I saw a particularly spry and joyous Ron Paul who would do very well to take Rand's win tonight as a sign that his message is catching on and decide to give America another chance to put him in the Oval Office!

[Justinjj1]

Rand is no replacement for Ron. Not even close.

+1

Not even in the same ballpark. Im sorry but I cringed a little bit when Rand started attacking Obama for "apologizing for America's greatness". Holy $#@!, those are neocon talking points. He also talked about debt, but no mention of foreign policy. If this is passing the torch, then we went from a bonfire to a bic lighter. Excuse me for pissing on your parade.

[Epic]

Ron 2012, Rand 2016

Rand can't run in 2012 anyway... what you want him to be inaugurated in Jan 2011, and then announce for Prez the same month or in February or March?

He wouldn't have anything to run on... he at least needs to be in the Senate for 4 years.

[beazy]

Rand certainly is in the ball park with Ron. You guys are crazy if you think Ron came out and talked the way he does now when he was running his first election. And besides this is a statewide election, look at how much the establishment threw at Rand already with the strange ideas and kooky $#@!. If you think he could came out and been just as candid as Ron is, we would not be celebrating tonight. Perhaps you would preferred that though.

[Kylie]

You gotta love Ron Paul if it wasn't for him running in 2007/2008 I don't think none of this would be possible.

The liberty message may well have died without him.

Yes. You are right.


I would not have known of Ron Paul if it weren't for some fringe people on another board I frequent. Some of them hate jews, some of them hate black people, some of them hate white people. The one thing they have in common is that right to "hate" and debate the very person they claim to hate.

It's great.






Wow. I just made a new Dr. Suess book right there.

[Korey Kaczynski]

+1

Not even in the same ballpark. Im sorry but I cringed a little bit when Rand started attacking Obama for "apologizing for America's greatness". Holy $#@!, those are neocon talking points. He also talked about debt, but no mention of foreign policy. If this is passing the torch, then we went from a bonfire to a bic lighter. Excuse me for pissing on your parade.

They are, but he isn't exactly wrong, either.

[Korey Kaczynski]

I disagree with this thread. I thought how proud Ron Paul was seeing his son launch a successful career, and probably ending up as a Tea Party leader.

Time will tell if Rand Paul is going to carry the torch; his demeanor can be establishment at times, but he will no doubt be a great senator. The question is though, will be he what we need?

[Korey Kaczynski]

Yes. You are right.


I would not have known of Ron Paul if it weren't for some fringe people on another board I frequent. Some of them hate jews, some of them hate black people, some of them hate white people. The one thing they have in common is that right to "hate" and debate the very person they claim to hate.

It's great.






Wow. I just made a new Dr. Suess book right there.

Arguing those people by being intelligent and morally sound chips away at them over time. Cognitive dissonance works wonders.

[StateofTrance]

No one can beat Ron's perseverance, consistency, patience and hard work. Go to hell, you Rand Paul supporters

[ProBlue33]

^^^^

What if Ron Paul says he IS passing the torch to his son so he will not run but would serve in cabinet post in a new Paul administration, then would you support Rand?

[driege]

+1

Not even in the same ballpark. Im sorry but I cringed a little bit when Rand started attacking Obama for "apologizing for America's greatness". Holy $#@!, those are neocon talking points. He also talked about debt, but no mention of foreign policy. If this is passing the torch, then we went from a bonfire to a bic lighter. Excuse me for pissing on your parade.

I thought the same thing, but he was referring to Obama apologizing for the pollution of the industrial revolution, not our military capability. It's the same phrase but with a completely different meaning.

[aspiringconstitutionalist]

Rand would be great on any ticket, though I'm personally for a Gary Johnson/Ron Paul 2012 ticket. That way, after Rand Paul and Peter Schiff's 6 year terms are up in 2016, they might be able to run on a ticket together then, if Johnson/Paul lose or don't run.

[jclay2]

Please Ron Paul is in great health and both of his parents lived in to their 90's. You don't need to be "young" to be a great leader. The media might tell you otherwise, but in my book with age comes wisdom. Ron is as sharp as a tack and would be more than able to be president in 2012.

Ron is the Master, Rand is the Apprentice Period

[Fozz]

As I watched the press conference with Rand Paul, Ron looked so old and frail, Rand looked fresh invigorated and went right after Obama.

I think once his son wins the senate seat, he will urge his son to run for President "as I am getting to old for this", he will fully support and do everything in his power to help his son.

2012 will be a year for a Paul just not the one we thought.

Please, stop this Rand Paul 2012 talk. I am getting sick of it.

[daSHiZZLE]

Ron did not pass any torch to Rand, he simply lit a candle for his son.

Ron Paul is one of kind.

There will be more leaders like him but none will replace him.

[Fozz]

Ron did not pass any torch to Rand, he simply lit a candle for his son.

Ron Paul is one of kind.

There will be more leaders like him but none will replace him.

Ron Paul isn't a cult figure. Please stop.

[specsaregood]

Did Ron speak last night? Does anybody have a tube of it?

[K466]

It's too soon to think about 2012. We have to get Rand and Peter Schiff in office first. Right now I think it would be better for Rand not to run in 2012, Ron or some other liberty candidate can do it then. We need seats in the Senate.

[Chester Copperpot]

You gotta love Ron Paul if it wasn't for him running in 2007/2008 I don't think none of this would be possible.

The liberty message may well have died without him.

Yeah... and I shudder when I think back and didnt understand federalism or liberty...

I can even remember asking myself "How does Ron Paul know when these things arent constitutional??"


And Im one of those people that love US History, read it all the time etc.. and I didnt know $#@!.


The time for this idea has come again.