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    Can we be humble winners?

    Since intrade is at 95%, let's assume Rand wins...

    hxxp://barefootandprogressive.blogspot.com/2010/05/party-unity-after-senate-primaries.html


    PPP has some interesting numbers in the Senate race on the Republican side, as Trey Grayson voters do not like Rand Paul.

    53% of likely Grayson voters for today have an unfavorable opinion of Paul to only 23% with a positive opinion of him. More importantly though just 40% of Grayson voters say they'll support Paul in the general election if he wins the Republican nomination with 43% explicitly saying they will not.
    These numbers will obviously change a good deal by the time November comes around, but they are still pretty dramatic and show that there's a very large rift to heal.

    Democrats (whoever wins tonight) will have this problem too, of course. Though I'd venture to guess that it won't be as much of a problem. Whereas the Conway and Mongiardo campaigns have had a bloody battle and don't like each other, I really don't see the same animosity among supporters of each side (meaning Conway fans hating Mongiardo fans, and vice versa). This is not the case on the other side, as the pure disgust that Paulbots and Grayson fans have for each other is unavoidable. It's hard enough to back a candidate that you're not fond of and said mean things about your candidate, but when you despise even the supporters of that candidate, it can be rough to swallow your pride and join them.

    Especially if they are gloating and touchdown dancing on your face, as the Paulbots will surely do to Grayson supporters.

    Maybe not but the campaign will have to try.
    Last edited by Cowlesy; 05-18-2010 at 02:43 PM.



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    Yeah be nice to Grayson's supporter(s?)

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    I dunno I like the idea of saying "oooooooh in the face, in the face!!!!!!@@!$!"

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    1.) BF&P hates Rand Paul and Rand Paul supporters.

    2.) Contrary to what that guy thinks, the vast majority of authentic Rand supporters immediately went into outreach mode to Bill Johnson's supporters when he dropped out, and I reckon they will do the same to Grayson's supporters.

    Being a Rand Paul supporter is fun. We enjoy bringing more people in. Part of campaigning for our candidates is that it is a good time, and inclusive group.

    P.S. Don't give that guy hits.
    "Your mother's dead, before long I'll be dead, and you...and your brother and your sister and all of her children, all of us dead, all of us..rotting in the ground. It's the family name that lives on. It's all that lives on. Not your personal glory, not your honor, but family." - Tywin Lannister


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    Quote Originally Posted by cowlesy View Post
    1.) bf&p hates rand paul and rand paul supporters.

    2.) contrary to what that guy thinks, the vast majority of authentic rand supporters immediately went into outreach mode to bill johnson's supporters when he dropped out, and i reckon they will do the same to grayson's supporters.

    Being a rand paul supporter is fun. We enjoy bringing more people in. Part of campaigning for our candidates is that it is a good time, and inclusive group.

    p.s. Don't give that guy hits.

    +1776 !!!!!
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    BF&P is a snake

    Don't give this guy hits like you guys give Mommy hits!

    Hits/views/attention cause news programs to interview these bloggers

    He gave Rand a loaded question on ADA and filmed it so that he could paint Rand as wanting handicapped people to be jobless

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    Be nice to Grayson's supporters. The GOP itself, however, is fair game imho. They could have gotten behind Rand early on when it became pretty clear that Rand was going to win this primary. But no, they chose to do nothing but mud sling and hurt Rand's numbers with general election voters. The GOP establishment doesn't deserve any leeway.
    "Let it not be said that we did nothing."-Ron Paul

    "We have set them on the hobby-horse of an idea about the absorption of individuality by the symbolic unit of COLLECTIVISM. They have never yet and they never will have the sense to reflect that this hobby-horse is a manifest violation of the most important law of nature, which has established from the very creation of the world one unit unlike another and precisely for the purpose of instituting individuality."- A Quote From Some Old Book



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    We will definitely celebrate.

    Quote Originally Posted by Barefoot
    Especially if they are gloating and touchdown dancing on your face, as the Paulbots will surely do to Grayson supporters.
    That won't happen towards Grayson supporters. On this forum, they are welcome to join our campaign for small constitutional government.

    The Grayson supporters are not the ones who lied about Rand. It was Grayson and his campaign that were the bad guys.

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    Grayson should come out afterwards with a message explaining all his lies to remove any dirt from Rand's image.

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    If you're talking about just this forum, then no, we aren't going to be humble. No need to. Do you actually think Trey Grayson had grassroots support? AIG lobbyisits /= grassroots. We don't have to worry about offending anyone on this forum. Well... on this issue I mean.
    if modern agriculture continues to follow the path it's on now, it's finished. The food-growing situation may seem to be in good shape today, but that's just an illusion based on the current availability of petroleum fuels. All the wheat, corn, and other crops that are produced on big American farms may be alive and growing, but they're not products of real nature or real agriculture. They're manufactured rather than grown. The earth isn't producing those things.. petroleum is! -Masanobu Fukuoka

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    I try to make it a point not to be a douchebag to the people who love being douchebags to us, unless it's made perfectly clear that not even civil conversation can sway their douchebaggery.

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    Screw this. I want to laugh at Graas on her own blog and send a profanity-laced e-mail to Kentucky Right to Life mocking them for their failed Grayson choice.

    (Kidding)

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    Quote Originally Posted by BenIsForRon View Post
    If you're talking about just this forum, then no, we aren't going to be humble. No need to. Do you actually think Trey Grayson had grassroots support? AIG lobbyisits /= grassroots. We don't have to worry about offending anyone on this forum. Well... on this issue I mean.
    If members are going to be douchebags to a misinformed voter in KY then they will be banned.

    Many lies were spread about Rand over the last few months.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brett View Post
    Grayson should come out afterwards with a message explaining all his lies to remove any dirt from Rand's image.
    I'm guessing he'll speak at the unity rally about how they may have a different opinion on some issues, but he'll proudly support Dr. Paul in the general election, etc... etc...
    "History has tried hard to teach us that we can't have good government under politicians. Now, to go and stick one at the very head of the government couldn't be wise." - Mark Twain

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    Even now that jerk is making headline news, lying, trashing Paul, and accusing us of conspiring to harass voters. I can't publish what I think Trey deserves.
    We accept both kinds of political theories here; No government and Anarchy. Ronpaulforums.com "Big Tent"



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    Quote Originally Posted by Kevin_Kennedy View Post
    I'm guessing he'll speak at the unity rally about how they may have a different opinion on some issues, but he'll proudly support Dr. Paul in the general election, etc... etc...
    Either that or he'll officially announce that he is reverting back to the Democrat party where he belongs.

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    Don't be $#@!s, guys - the primary is NOT final, and even if Paul does win, he still has to win the general election.

    Celebrate if we win, but don't be $#@!s.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sirgonzo420 View Post
    Don't be $#@!s, guys - the primary is NOT final, and even if Paul does win, he still has to win the general election.

    Celebrate if we win, but don't be $#@!s.
    Henry Clay said, it may well be better to be right than President. We may well be right, Rand may be right, but we need to convince Grayson's voters and the general voting population that we are right, and that Rand deserves a shot.
    The evils of the protecting-duty, may undoubtedly be graduated by compromises, like those of every other species of tyranny, but the folly of letting in some tyranny has in all ages been fatal to liberty. A succession of wedges, though apparently small, finally splits the strongest timber. ~John Taylor of Caroline, Tyranny Unmasked

    We have four boxes with which to defend our freedom: the soap box, the ballot box, the jury box, and the cartridge box. ~Congressman Larry McDonald.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RM918 View Post
    I try to make it a point not to be a douchebag to the people who love being douchebags to us, unless it's made perfectly clear that not even civil conversation can sway their douchebaggery.
    We need to remain civil, no matter what "douchebaggery" comes our way...no matter what the race, no matter who the candiate is, no matter who wins.

    This does not mean that we can't celebrate our @sses off.......
    Liberty, of course, has her price in blood, if we do not suppport her when she is in trouble.

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    Sorry Trey

    ....how are those internal poll numbers holding up bro???

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    Quote Originally Posted by Allan Bartlett View Post
    ....how are those internal poll numbers holding up bro???
    I think, they overestimated their GOTV and underestimated ours.
    Either that, or you can just add it to the long list of lies he tried to sell.

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    FFFFUUUUCCCKKKK HUMILITY!!!!!!


    WE WON MOTHERFUCKERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



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    Last edited by low preference guy; 05-18-2010 at 05:45 PM.

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    If Trey ran a clean campaign? Yes.

    But he didn't. So no.

    As far as I'm concerned, @KYTrey stands for the KY he's been looking for as he's been sodomized all night long.



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