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    Florida AG Bill McCollum Plans Fight Against Health Care Reform | Nullification

    Florida AG Bill McCollum Plans Fight Against Health Care Reform


    CBS 4
    Mar 22, 2010


    As Democrats in Congress celebrated their victory for health care reform Sunday night, Republicans across the country immediately began assembling plans to try and fight the bill from the state level. Florida Attorney General Bill McCollum could be one of the leaders of the fight as he has pledged to sue the federal government over the provision in the health care reform bill that mandates citizens to purchase health care insurance.

    McCollum's staff told CBS4.com's Tim Kephart that the mandate to purchase health care insurance essentially was a "living" tax. In other words, McCollum's claim was that it's unconstitutional for the government to mandate you purchase health insurance just because you're alive.

    When asked to compare mandating citizens buy auto insurance versus being forced to buy health insurance, the attorney general's office said the comparison was like "apples and oranges." McCollum's staff claimed that you have a choice not to buy auto insurance or drive. However, you have no choice on buying health insurance, because if you're alive and don't buy it you get fined. On the same hand, if you drive and don't have insurance, you would also get fined.

    According to Attorney General McMollum, "The U.S. Constitution grants no authority to Congress to compel citizens to purchase health insurance when those citizens choose not to enter the health care market." McCollum continued saying "Congress lacks Commerce Clause authority to enact the individual mandate."

    The commerce clause references Article I, Section 8, Clause 3 of the United States Constitution. It states, "[The Congress shall have power] To regulate Commerce with foreign nations, and among the several states, and with the Indian tribes.

    Supreme Court cases as recent as 2000 have dealt with the commerce clause. In United States vs. Morrison, the Court reversed the Violence Against Women Act saying Congress lacked authority to enact it because it did not involve economic or interstate activity. This could make for an interesting legal battle because health care does involve both economic and interstate activity; the question would be whether the Court would wants to step into the fight.

    McCollum also claimed the individual mandate would render the Tenth Amendment to the Constitution "meaningless."

    The tenth amendment reads, "The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people." However, the Supreme Court has a mixed history of dealing with Tenth Amendment issues.

    South Carolina attorney general Henry McMaster said he expects other attorneys general to join in the lawsuit. He and other GOP members at the state level have denounced the legislation. Originally, McMaster said he wanted to challenge an exemption that would keep Nebraska from paying for Medicaid costs. It was a provision inserted for Nebraska Senator Ben Nelson and quickly became known as the "Cornhusker Kickback."

    However, the House bill's addendum removed the Cornhusker Kickback and other provisions. McMaster and McCollum also pledged to fight "deem and pass" if the House used the procedural maneuver. But, the House carried out a traditional vote late Sunday night rendering the "deem and pass" controversy moot.

    Both McMaster and McCollum are running for the Republican gubernatorial nomination in their states.

    In addition to McCollum's plan of attack, the Florida legislature has sent a constitutional amendment to committee that would allow Floridians to opt out of the federal health care reform plan. The battle would need 60 percent voter approval if it makes it on to the November ballot.


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    State vs. Federal: The Nullification Movement
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    Nullification in a Nutshell
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    Nice-and McCollum is running for Governor of Florida

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    Quote Originally Posted by bobbyw24 View Post
    Nice-and McCollum is running for Governor of Florida


    He will get my vote!

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    Quote Originally Posted by JenaS62 View Post
    He will get my vote!
    Florida, Help get this Bill passed!



    HJR. 37, State Constitutional Amendment - Health Care Nullification.

    A joint resolution proposing the creation of Section 28 of Article X of the State Constitution, relating to health care services.

    http://www.myfloridahouse.gov/Sectio...7&Session=2010


    Will Florida Ban National Health Care?
    http://www.tenthamendmentcenter.com/...l-health-care/

    ...
    The most recent effort comes from Florida State Senator Carey Baker and State Representative Scott Plakon, who this week filed a proposed State Constitutional Amendment (HJR37) as a means to prevent Floridians from being affected by any Federal Health Care Legislation. If approved by the legislature, Florida residents could be voting on it as early as 2010.

    HJR37 would deny the ability of any new law to impose demands, restrictions or penalties on health care choices on Floridians. Versions of proposed federal health care reform legislation have included insurance coverage mandates, and certain penalties on employers who fail to provide employee health insurance.

    It states, in part:

    (1) A law or rule shall not compel, directly or indirectly, any person, employer, or health care provider to participate in any health care system

    (2) A person or employer may pay directly for lawful health care services and shall not be required to pay penalties or fines for paying directly for lawful health care services. A health care provider may accept direct payment for lawful health care services and shall not be required to pay penalties or fines for accepting direct payment from a person or employer for lawful health care services.
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    Way to go guys, I hope this spreads

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    Thank you, FrankRep, for posting this great news! I had just seen your other ALEC thread & felt an immense relief when seeing FLA listed in that info, & now this! Praise God some people in FLA still have their heads screwed on straight. I was sick at heart early this morn upon hearing the ObamaScare Health bill had passed. I thought it was a hopeless case (& reading comments by blinded morons at the Reuters Poll who are celebrating that now the USA can be a normal country like Europe with national healthcare!!! They are out of their minds!!)

    (Now if FLA would overturn SB360; & get rid of that gold DL described in another thread...) :-/

    BTW, on that ALEC map, I was surprised Texas showed no action yet; CA & OR neither.
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    FLA AG Bill McCollum is on Twitter! *Excellent! *TELL HIM THANK YOU!!

    Bill McCollum (BillMcCollum) on Twitter:
    twitter.com/billMcCollum

    Bill McCollum News (McCollumNews) onTwitter:
    … Florida AG Bill McCollum says health care bill is unconstitutional *
    twitter.com/McCollumNews

    Florida Attorney General - Home Page - 1 hour ago
    Official website of the Florida Attorney General. … Audio message from AG Bill McCollum Audio Msg · Twitter Fraud Hotline
    myfloridalegal.com/
    twitter.com/myfloridalegal
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    Health care may involve interstate commerce, though in a very inconsequential way, but health insurance markets are all state-based. I think even the liberal justices would have a hard time justifying the individual mandate or exchanges (assuming those are also state-based).
    "My pride in my country is inversely proportional to Michelle Obama's pride in her country."
    - Me

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    Quote Originally Posted by FrankRep View Post
    Florida, Help get this Bill passed!



    Thanks for the info. If it comes up for vote - I will of course vote for nullification.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JenaS62 View Post
    Thanks for the info. If it comes up for vote - I will of course vote for nullification.
    Contact your state Rep and make sure they're going to Co-Sponsor the bill.
    Every couple of days, call and ask about the bill.


    Find Your Florida Representative.
    http://www.myfloridahouse.gov/
    Last edited by FrankRep; 03-22-2010 at 12:07 PM.
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