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  1. #121
    "Let it not be said that we did nothing." - Dr. Ron Paul. "Stand up for what you believe in, even if you are standing alone." - Sophie Magdalena Scholl
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    American Socialism Then and Now

    https://www.dsausa.org/weekly/part-t...-then-and-now/

    But all this means is that those of us who declare ourselves socialists must reaffirm our radicalism, envision a truly revolutionary anti-capitalist future, and understand that today, as in Gilded Age America, the our cause is increasingly that of a radical democracy struggling to be born.

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    Quote Originally Posted by timosman View Post
    So, Thing X leads to killing Commies? Lots and lots of dead Commies?

    Hmm..... why am I not supposed to support this? Remind me.

  6. #125
    Quote Originally Posted by H_H View Post
    So, Thing X leads to killing Commies? Lots and lots of dead Commies?

    Hmm..... why am I not supposed to support this? Remind me.
    This happens after all non-commies are dead.

  7. #126
    In seriousness, no it doesn't.

    Not everyone in Russia died when Communism took over. What did happen?

    All of the previous elite were killed first. They all died. Well, some escaped to New York. But it was a bloodbath. And then, yeah, things went on from there over the decades.

    Perhaps we have misunderstood communism and thus missed its potential as a useful tool. Everywhere communism has tried, it has worked brilliantly. It has resulted in the deposement and wholesale slaughter of the country's previous ruling elite. That is the purpose of communism. That is why God gave it to us, as a tool. Communism is not an economic system, it is a tactic. As an economic system, it would be retarded and obviously unworkable. But as a tactic of "how can we get rid of all these horrible disgustoids ruling over us?" it seems to work almost miraculously well. It's never failed.

    Now the Russian czars and oligarchs were not that bad, it's quite a shame they were slaughtered, and those rulers who replaced them were a decided step down in quality. But our rulers today are an unrelentingly malicious, unmitigated horror of freaks with no virtue, no intelligence, no taste, and no excuse to be allowed to continue living. Whatever rulers replaced them couldn't possibly be worse. If whipping the people up into a communist revolution would be an effective way of exterminating our rulers, it certainly deserves some consideration.

    (I don't actually believe the above. It's just a fresh and interesting perspective to consider.)

  8. #127
    Quote Originally Posted by H_H View Post
    In seriousness, no it doesn't.

    Not everyone in Russia died when Communism took over. What did happen?

    All of the previous elite were killed first. They all died. Well, some escaped to New York. But it was a bloodbath. And then, yeah, things went on from there over the decades.

    Perhaps we have misunderstood communism and thus missed its potential as a useful tool. Everywhere communism has tried, it has worked brilliantly. It has resulted in the deposement and wholesale slaughter of the country's previous ruling elite. That is the purpose of communism. That is why God gave it to us, as a tool. Communism is not an economic system, it is a tactic. As an economic system, it would be retarded and obviously unworkable. But as a tactic of "how can we get rid of all these horrible disgustoids ruling over us?" it seems to work almost miraculously well. It's never failed.

    Now the Russian czars and oligarchs were not that bad, it's quite a shame they were slaughtered, and those rulers who replaced them were a decided step down in quality. But our rulers today are an unrelentingly malicious, unmitigated horror of freaks with no virtue, no intelligence, no taste, and no excuse to be allowed to continue living. Whatever rulers replaced them couldn't possibly be worse. If whipping the people up into a communist revolution would be an effective way of exterminating our rulers, it certainly deserves some consideration.

    (I don't actually believe the above. It's just a fresh and interesting perspective to consider.)
    It's ALWAYS a step down in quality.

  9. #128
    This guy has an awesome channel.

    And a really hot Belarussian girlfriend.

    He mostly hangs out in Russia and the former soviet states, but he's in Cuba this week.




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  11. #129
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    It's ALWAYS a step down in quality.
    The best part is you have to pretend it isn't. You get whacked if you don't.

  12. #130
    Quote Originally Posted by H_H View Post
    In seriousness, no it doesn't.

    Not everyone in Russia died when Communism took over. What did happen?

    All of the previous elite were killed first. They all died. Well, some escaped to New York. But it was a bloodbath. And then, yeah, things went on from there over the decades.

    Perhaps we have misunderstood communism and thus missed its potential as a useful tool. Everywhere communism has tried, it has worked brilliantly. It has resulted in the deposement and wholesale slaughter of the country's previous ruling elite. That is the purpose of communism. That is why God gave it to us, as a tool. Communism is not an economic system, it is a tactic. As an economic system, it would be retarded and obviously unworkable. But as a tactic of "how can we get rid of all these horrible disgustoids ruling over us?" it seems to work almost miraculously well. It's never failed.

    Now the Russian czars and oligarchs were not that bad, it's quite a shame they were slaughtered, and those rulers who replaced them were a decided step down in quality. But our rulers today are an unrelentingly malicious, unmitigated horror of freaks with no virtue, no intelligence, no taste, and no excuse to be allowed to continue living. Whatever rulers replaced them couldn't possibly be worse. If whipping the people up into a communist revolution would be an effective way of exterminating our rulers, it certainly deserves some consideration.

    (I don't actually believe the above. It's just a fresh and interesting perspective to consider.)
    I guess you are thinking about Robespierre and his guillotines. The commies have learned since then the frog needs to be boiled a little bit slower so no mishaps like the ones you are describing anymore.

  13. #131
    Quote Originally Posted by timosman View Post
    I guess you are thinking about Robespierre and his guillotines. The commies have learned since then the frog needs to be boiled a little bit slower so no mishaps like the ones you are describing anymore.
    No, I was thinking of specifically what I wrote: Communist revolutions. The French revolution was not Communist, though certainly it did seem to do the trick of killing off the existing elite, too. Various countries have undergone successful Commie revs. Coming to mind are:

    Russia
    China
    Cambodia

    In each instance, the tactic worked brilliantly: existing ruling class slaughtered. You can just follow the trail of rotted ruler bodies. Proof, meet pudding. Pudding, proof.

    Communism works.

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