Why was the atomic bombing of Japan not necessary?
I've always known that the reason the U.S. bombed Nagasaki was because even after they had been bombed Hiroshima, the emperor had declined to surrender. How is it that I've heard at 2:30...
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If you're not willing to surrender even after the use of the greatest weapon of warfare, how can you be ready to surrender prior to its use? And yes they were given an opportunity, see Postdam Declaration
Last edited by Free Moral Agent; 02-16-2010 at 03:07 PM.
It wasn't necessary because Japan's emperor saying "I surrender" wouldn't have changed that we just sent all of their aircraft carriers to the bottom of the pacific.
The US already won the war and then used terrorist tactics to get a complete surrender.
as an expert in Japanese animation, i wholeheartedly say no
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There was a near coup by the military that was thwarted.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ky%C5%ABj%C5%8D_Incident
While I frown up the demolition of Nagasaki, you have to be extremely naive to think that the fiercely honor bound Japanese would have just let the American forces stroll onto their islands without incredible resistance.The Kyūjō Incident (宮城事件, Kyūjō Jiken?) was an attempted military coup d'état in Japan at the end of the Second World War. It happened on the night of 14 August 1945 – 15 August 1945, just prior to announcement of Japan's surrender to the Allies. The attempted coup was put into effect by the Staff Office of the Ministry of War of Japan and by many from the Imperial Guard of Japan in order to stop the move to surrender.
The officers, in an attempt to block the decision to surrender to the Allies, killed Lieutenant General Takeshi Mori of the First Imperial Guards Division and attempted to counterfeit an order to the effect of occupying the Tokyo Imperial Palace. They attempted to place the Emperor under house-arrest, using the 2nd Brigade Imperial Guard Infantry. They failed to persuade the Eastern District Army (Japan) and the high command of the Imperial Japanese Army to move forward with the action. Due to their failure to convince the remaining army to oust the Imperial House of Japan, they ultimately committed suicide in traditional Japanese form. As a result, the communique of the intent for a Japanese surrender continued as planned.
Last edited by AuH20; 02-16-2010 at 03:29 PM.
Ok, so we sank all their ships. Then we go home?
What are they doing in the mean time? Rebuilding their empire? Rebuilding their military? Giving haven to Germans, and using the German's technology to build atomic bombs too?
Nahh, they'd just stop if we did.
It was our fault they invaded China. Sorry Japan, our bad. We forced you to take over half the Pacific. You guys didn't want to do it.
>:S
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the terms of surrender demanded at Potsdam were significantly less than those accepted following the bombings. in fact, many have argued that the Japanese would have surrendered under the terms they had agreed to if these had been offered previous to dropping the atomic bombs.
The war should have never escalated to that point (reference FDR - Tojo Doctrine). But I agree. You finish the damn thing after exhausting countless lives, dollars and resources. Secondly, why apply moral standards to an act which purely immoral? War is hell and should be avoided at all costs, but at the same time, I understand the burdensome choice Truman made.Originally Posted by Promontorium
Last edited by AuH20; 02-16-2010 at 03:23 PM.
Define: Surrender
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I think the bombing was necessary, it outweighed the cost of losing millions on an invasion of the Japanese homeland.
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