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    Cartel stitches victim's face on soccer ball
    Gruesome find a sign of new level of brutality in violent drug wars
    The Associated Press
    updated 6:58 p.m. ET Jan. 8, 2010
    MEXICO CITY - The body of 36-year-old Hugo Hernandez was left on the streets of Los Mochis in seven pieces as a chilling threat to members of the Juarez drug cartel. A note read: "Happy New Year, because this will be your last."

    To drive home the point, the assailants skinned Hernandez's face and stitched it onto a soccer ball.


    The gruesome find, confirmed Friday by Sinaloa state prosecutors, represents a new level of brutality in Mexico's drug war, in which torture and beheadings are almost daily occurrences.

    Hernandez was taken to Sinaloa after being kidnapped Jan. 2 in neighboring Sonora state, in an area known for marijuana growing, said Martin Robles, a spokesman for Sinaloa prosecutors. The motive for his abduction was unclear.

    His torso was found in a plastic container in one location; elsewhere another box contained his arms, legs and skull, Robles said. Hernandez's face, sewn onto a soccer ball, was left in a plastic bag near City Hall.

    More than 15,000 people have been killed since President Felipe Calderon launched a crackdown on cartels three years ago. While the border cities of Ciudad Juarez and Tijuana have seen much of the violence, Sinaloa state is Mexico's drug-smuggling heartland and is the birthplace of the leadership of four of the six major cartels.

    Power of intimidation
    Often, victims are tortured and mutilated, in an attempt to intimidate rivals, officials and others who might represent a threat to the cartels.

    Often, it works.

    In the northern city of Saltillo, a major regional newspaper announced it would stop covering drug violence altogether after the body of a reporter was found Friday outside a motel with a threatening message. Valentin Valdes had recently written about the arrests of suspected drug traffickers.

    "As of today we will publish zero information related to drug trafficking to avoid situations like the one we went through today," an editor of the newspaper Zocalo told The Associated Press. Tellingly, he asked that his name not be published.

    Many Mexican news media have stopped covering anything that might be associated with drugs, or limit themselves to reporting on government news releases. At least 17 journalists have been killed in Mexico since 1992 in direct reprisal for stories, according to the New York-based Committee to Protect Journalists.

    Valdes had written about the Dec. 29 arrests at the Marbella Motel of five alleged members of the Gulf drug cartel. He also covered the arrests Wednesday of five others who barged into the same hotel and stole the surveillance tapes.

    The 28-year-old reporter was shot to death, and his body was dumped outside the Marbella Motel.

    Coahuila state Attorney General Jesus Torres would not give details of the threat left with his body.

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    Now if that right there don't make you want to smoke some Mexican dope, I don't know what will.
    Seriously, don't let this story bother you, Those guys need Your business badly.
    I know, I know...
    I don't know what the $#@! I'm talking about, you got a prescription and the guy you buy from grows all his $#@! in his back yard and your knee hurts and pot cures cancer, glaucoma and when applied topically with WD-40 it has helped arthritis sufferers and its a victimless crime.
    Tell that to the dude who got his face stitched onto a soccerball.
    Oh yeah, and $#@! me, while I'm at it lol.
    Saved you the trouble.
    Last edited by Dieseler; 01-09-2010 at 06:13 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dieseler View Post
    Now if that right there don't make you want to smoke some Mexican dope, I don't know what will.
    Seriously, don't let this story bother you, Those guys need Your business badly.
    I know, I know...
    I don't know what the $#@! I'm talking about, you got a prescription and the guy you buy from grows all his $#@! in his back yard and your knee hurts and pot cures cancer, glaucoma and when applied topically with WD-40 it has helped arthritis sufferers and its a victimless crime.
    Tell that to the dude who got his face stitched onto a soccerball.
    Oh yeah, and $#@! me, while I'm at it lol.
    Saved you the trouble.
    dude...are you high??
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    Here is a real Law Enforcement solution for that "soccer ball face-off" problem: www.leap.cc

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chaohinon View Post
    Oh no! They got Wilson!

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    "The gruesome find, confirmed Friday by Sinaloa state prosecutors, represents a new level of brutality in Mexico's drug war, in which torture and beheadings are almost daily occurrences."

    Which, of course, makes it true.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SelfTaught View Post
    Oh no! They got Wilson!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Dieseler View Post
    Now if that right there don't make you want to smoke some Mexican dope, I don't know what will.
    Seriously, don't let this story bother you, Those guys need Your business badly.
    I know, I know...
    I don't know what the $#@! I'm talking about, you got a prescription and the guy you buy from grows all his $#@! in his back yard and your knee hurts and pot cures cancer, glaucoma and when applied topically with WD-40 it has helped arthritis sufferers and its a victimless crime.
    Tell that to the dude who got his face stitched onto a soccerball.
    Oh yeah, and $#@! me, while I'm at it lol.
    Saved you the trouble.
    Hey, apparently the dude f*d up. Nobody's fault but his own.

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    funny thing is- people are not getting butchered over cigerettes and beer- wonder why?
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    Quote Originally Posted by torchbearer View Post
    funny thing is- people are not getting butchered over cigerettes and beer- wonder why?
    Not since 1933 anyway.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Icymudpuppy View Post
    Not since 1933 anyway.
    I wonder what happened in that year to rid us of the violence?
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    Quote Originally Posted by torchbearer View Post
    I wonder what happened in that year to rid us of the violence?
    FDR seized all the gold.

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    Quote Originally Posted by coyote_sprit View Post
    FDR seized all the gold.
    try again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by coyote_sprit View Post
    FDR seized all the gold.
    LOL nice.
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    Marijuana users could make it legal in 6 months time with a concerted effort, especially in this economy but they will not do what I would propose.
    Interested in the plan?
    I'm not kidding, serious as a heart attack and would really love to share.
    Last edited by Dieseler; 01-09-2010 at 09:33 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dieseler View Post
    Marijuana users could make it legal in 6 months time with a concerted effort, especially in this economy but they will not do what I would propose.
    Interested in the plan?
    I'm not kidding, serious as a heart attack and would really love to share.
    Oil is legal, and look at all the bloodshed over that commodity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Danke View Post
    Oil is legal, and look at all the bloodshed over that commodity.
    You can't grow appreciable quantities of oil in your back yard or your closet.
    Pandora's box is not only open but its sides have been split with a razor and it now resides in a dumpster.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dieseler View Post
    Now if that right there don't make you want to smoke some Mexican dope, I don't know what will.
    Seriously, don't let this story bother you, Those guys need Your business badly.
    I know, I know...
    I don't know what the $#@! I'm talking about, you got a prescription and the guy you buy from grows all his $#@! in his back yard and your knee hurts and pot cures cancer, glaucoma and when applied topically with WD-40 it has helped arthritis sufferers and its a victimless crime.
    Tell that to the dude who got his face stitched onto a soccerball.
    Oh yeah, and $#@! me, while I'm at it lol.
    Saved you the trouble.
    alcohol prohibition??? get it?? if not smoke one and think about it

    Legalize and you remove the cartel profit. haven't seen any reports lately on beheadings over coors lights or jack daniels...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dieseler View Post
    Marijuana users could make it legal in 6 months time with a concerted effort, especially in this economy but they will not do what I would propose.
    Interested in the plan?
    I'm not kidding, serious as a heart attack and would really love to share.
    did you say 6 months?? i bet we do in 6 months in lake county colorado

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dieseler View Post
    You can't grow appreciable quantities of oil in your back yard or your closet.
    Ya, but legal for our government will not mean you can grow it in your back yard (tax/violence free anyway).

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    Quote Originally Posted by teacherone View Post
    I'll post a pic if I can find one
    Please, no.

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    Quote Originally Posted by speciallyblend View Post
    did you say 6 months?? i bet we do in 6 months in lake county colorado
    Aye and I congratulate you, seriously, but what about when the next administration comes in. Until you make an effect Federally your just sitting and waiting for the hammer to fall.

    Quote Originally Posted by Danke View Post
    Ya, but legal for our government will not mean you can grow it in your back yard (tax/violence free anyway).
    True, but it would be nice to at least get it to that point where you could have what you want and not have that soccer ball with a bloody face in the back of your mind or fear the Feds kicking your door in while you partake of that which nature has provided.

    Your not going to get the government to stop taxing Cigarettes or Booze either.
    I'd just love to see people finally be able to enjoy what they like with a compromise and the plan I would propose to implement in order to get to that point would work if followed and it's a completely legal and violence free plan.
    Pandora's box is not only open but its sides have been split with a razor and it now resides in a dumpster.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dieseler View Post
    Marijuana users could make it legal in 6 months time with a concerted effort, especially in this economy but they will not do what I would propose.
    Interested in the plan?
    I'm not kidding, serious as a heart attack and would really love to share.
    Well I'm not a marijuana user and this isn't on the top of my priority list, but I'd love to hear the plan!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dieseler View Post
    You can't grow appreciable quantities of oil in your back yard or your closet.
    Eh....don't be too sure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jmdrake View Post
    Well I'm not a marijuana user and this isn't on the top of my priority list, but I'd love to hear the plan!
    Cool thanks, dieing to share and I just sent it in a pm so may as well lay it out here.

    Just stop buying plain and simple.

    Don't feed the Beast.

    If you take away the demand the Government will have to find another way to recoup the loss in revenue.
    You would first have to believe that the Government profits from Marijuana being illegal in the first place, which I do believe...
    So if you take away the potential for them to profit through bloodshed, SALES and licenses to sell, they will eventually give up and legalize and tax.

    They are on the brink now in my opinion and all they need is a push to make it happen, that's why I say 6 months. It may take longer but no doubt if people would make a concerted effort all together not to BUY and not get INCARCERATED during a period of time, sooner or later The Beast would blink and users would win by virtue of being allowed to buy and use without fear of repercussion.

    I know it's not the perfect solution but it beats the heck out of what we have hanging over our heads now.

    You can forget it though because the buyers will not participate and thus the system will continue to prosper just as it does now.. Upon the blood of the innocent.
    Pandora's box is not only open but its sides have been split with a razor and it now resides in a dumpster.

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    I run my diesels on straight vegetable oil. No need to convert to Biodiesel. Thin the oil with heat. works every time. No harsh chemicals. Just filters.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dieseler View Post
    It may take longer but no doubt if people would make a concerted effort all together not to BUY and not get INCARCERATED during a period of time, sooner or later The Beast would blink and users would win by virtue of being allowed to buy and use without fear of repercussion.

    I know it's not the perfect solution but it beats the heck out of what we have hanging over our heads now.

    You can forget it though because the buyers will not participate and thus the system will continue to prosper just as it does now.. Upon the blood of the innocent.


    I think your plan is impossible, and I don't know why you think they might "blink". What is the reasoning for that?

    Why don't you do your part and add to the legitimate local supply if it is legal to do so, medically? That certainly helps people's faces from being sewn onto soccer balls I would think.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    ^I think your plan is impossible.

    Why don't you do your part and add to the legitimate local supply if it is legal to do so, medically? That certainly helps people's faces from being sewn onto soccer balls I would think.
    I agree it is impossible because the buyers will not participate and thus the system will continue to prosper just as it does now
    There is no legal supply in my State.

    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    I think your plan is impossible, and I don't know why you think they might "blink". What is the reasoning for that?

    Why don't you do your part and add to the legitimate local supply if it is legal to do so, medically? That certainly helps people's faces from being sewn onto soccer balls I would think.
    I agree it is impossible because the buyers will not participate and thus the system will continue to prosper just as it does now
    I think they would blink eventually because I think they profit from the illegality.
    If you starve them of their ability to profit from that illegality then they would have to settle for whatever profit they could make by legalizing.
    Why do you think it's not legal now, lol?
    They are making huge money off of marijuana or else somebody would not have their face stitched to a soccer ball now.
    People are dying to keep these States supplied.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dieseler View Post
    Why do you think it's not legal now, lol?
    Hemp fiber competes with cotton, timber, wool, and nylon.

    Hemp seed oil competes with petroleum, and cosmetics.

    Marijuana competes with Tobacco and many pharmaceuticals.

    Hemp and Marijuana are easy to grow in anybody's yard and don't require a centralized production industrial center.

    All the above mentioned industries hate decentralization and have powerful lobbies.

    That is why Cannibis is illegal.
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