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  1. #61
    Quote Originally Posted by osan View Post
    Actually, this is not quite so. Consider this essay:

    http://freedomisobvious.blogspot.com...s-freedom.html

    As you can see, there actually is an invariant - human life. It is most safe to say, for example, that the vast and overwhelming majority of people in the USA (let us forget about the rest of the world for the sake of this exchange) do not wish to be murdered, robbed, raped, or beaten. We already have 4 elements of "the invariant", i.e., the standard by which proper action is defined and the limits of our prerogatives delimited.



    Which is suggestive of a traitor's treason, or at least an ignoramus' willingness to be directed by others, regardless of where it may lead. To the latter point, it is most often overlooked by even the likes of those found here to discover those behind the scenes. Without a concentrated effort at exposing, investigating, and possibly prosecuting and even executing such people and destroying the organizations to which they owe fealty and in whose interests they operate, no amount of cleansing effort will produce the desired result.



    The existence of "God" is predicated wholly upon the definition. The argument of whether God exists is idiotic on its face when no definition of the term is given. Take my own point of view, for example: I do not believe God exists - I know God exists. The very fact that we exist proves to me beyond any reasonable doubt that God exists as well. This is a trivial point, however, because the question that makes the real difference in these metaphysical musings asks "what is the nature of God?" That is the lynch pin on which any such conversation turns. That is the question over which people have butchered one another for thousands of years and continue to do so today.



    If you read the essay above, then the basis for issue becomes abundantly apparent.



    Your question reflects the all-too-common and wholesale misconception of what it means to be free. Freedom does not mean "anything goes". Freedom is bounded, and that is a very good thing for those metes and bounds act as the guide to the most fundamental aspects of proper behavior.
    Quote Originally Posted by osan View Post
    Obama has no moral basis for violating my rights, nor those of anyone else. I am a sovereign being, so Obama can screw off with his opinions, as can anyone else with notions of violating my space. You appear to be of the mind that your idea of "God" is necessary for proper action. I assure you that it is not only unnecessary, it is a most unsound way of approaching the matter. Put a million people in a room and I promise you that there will be at least 2 million definitions and opinions on what God is and what God wants. More like twenty million, but perhaps the point is made.

    The only safe standard is life as viewed through the lens of the Golden Rule. Live. Let live. Don't want to be a ****? Don' be one, but leave that decision for each and every person to make for themselves. Believe as you choose to believe - God, no God, kitchen sink, whatever - and allow others to do so as well in the way that accords with the dictates of their respective consciences. This is the only sound approach. If a group wishes to live as socialists, let them. If they attempt to impose that life on you, shoot them. There is no excuse for violating the consensual choices of individuals as that or in groups so long as they do not infringe upon your choices. Live. Let live. It is the perfect formula for living.
    Quote Originally Posted by osan View Post
    I think we got that one.



    It may be for you. For others it is not. Let it go.



    I must assume you are a "man of faith". If so, you violate your status by speaking as if you knew the first thing about God. I seriously doubt that you do. Faith is just that: belief, and that is perfectly valid. But if you believe this or that about "God", you really should refrain from making any positive assertions about "God" that do not begin with "I believe" or "It is my opinion that". Anything other than this is claiming knowledge rather than expounding one's faith.



    The bible is not the basis of our form of government.



    That rationale is fallacious - wholly invalid, and untrue to boot. Just because something is said, it does not follow that it is true.



    There is an objective moral standard. We call it "life". I direct you to this essay once again:

    http://freedomisobvious.blogspot.com...s-freedom.html

    One does not get more objective than that.


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    Do citizens (of any nation) have access to Interpol in any way?

  4. #63
    Quote Originally Posted by orafi View Post
    Do citizens (of any nation) have access to Interpol in any way?
    Not that I know of.

    They are a completely "closed" enforcement arm of...something.
    Another mark of a tyrant is that he likes foreigners better than citizens, and lives with them and invites them to his table; for the one are enemies, but the Others enter into no rivalry with him. - Aristotle's Politics Book 5 Part 11

  5. #64
    Has the good Doctor weighed in on this yet?



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  7. #65
    Our President is the 5th Column.

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  8. #66
    Tellin' it like it is ...
    I have sworn upon the altar of God eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man.
    ~Thomas Jefferson

  9. #67

    Obama Executive Order on Interpol Gives Fatcats Full Tax Exemption

    President Barack Obama amended Reagan-era Executive Order 12425 on December 17, which granted agents of the global police database Interpol full immunity from U.S. tax and customs laws, as if they were full ambassadors from other countries. by Thomas R. Eddlem

    Obama Executive Order on Interpol Gives Fatcats Full Tax Exemption


    Thomas R. Eddlem | The New American
    29 December 2009


    President Barack Obama amended Reagan-era Executive Order 12425 on December 17, which granted agents of the global police database Interpol full immunity from U.S. tax and customs laws, as if they were full ambassadors from other countries.

    The original 1983 executive order designated Interpol as an international organization protected by some immunity laws, but Obama's amendment granted all Interpol employees full exemption from U.S. taxes and customs inspections. Under provisions of Obama's executive order, Interpol and its employees in the United States won't have to any pay income taxes, property taxes, or Social Security taxes, in addition to customs duties.

    The executive order also notes that Interpol employees and their property “shall be immune from search, unless such immunity be expressly waived, and from confiscation. The archives of international organizations shall be inviolable.”

    The latter provision has caused some alarm on the Internet, where many have feared Interpol — which is a law-enforcement agency — would be given more authority to operate in the United States. However, this executive order does nothing to change the authority of Interpol to operate in the United States, except to exempt them from taxes and searches.

    It is suspicious that the archives of Interpol is said to be “inviolable” from U.S. government search, as the entire purpose of Interpol is to share information on international criminals between nations. Such an executive order makes it possible — however unlikely — that such an exemption from customs duties and searches could lead to the export of sensitive materials without U.S. government authorization. It is also possible that U.S. persons could be exported (perhaps for trial at an international criminal court) without a search. The International Criminal Court has actively courted cooperation with Interpol, the Lyon, France-based International Criminal Police Organization formed in 1923 (and later taken over by Nazi Germany, though revived after World War II).

    Though such abductions are possible under Obama's amended executive order, the amendment doesn't authorize anything of the sort. And it doesn't appear abduction of Americans for the International Criminal Court (to which the United States is not a party) is the intent of Obama's December 17 edict. Abductions are against the basic principles of Interpol. Rather, it looks as if Obama is just giving some of his globalist fatcat friends a full-blown tax exemption.

    We should all be so lucky to be exempt from income and Social Security taxes. But Americans have seen their taxes increased under Obama, from the tobacco tax increase already passed to the “cap-and-trade” and healthcare tax increases eagerly being sought by the Obama administration.


    SOURCE:
    http://www.thenewamerican.com/index....-tax-exemption
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  11. #69
    Those blue helmets are sure easy to spot in a crowd.


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  12. #70
    Please note my signature below.

    You will be spared no quarter if/when interacting with INTERPOL agents.

    I suggest a very balanced reciprocity be practiced.
    Heads and Hips, Heads and Hips!

  13. #71
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    He is most definitely the enemy .
    Among a people generally corrupt, liberty cannot long exist.
    ~Edmund Burke

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  16. #73
    Obama grants Interpol immunity as foreign 'assets' assigned to U.S. homeland
    YouTube - Obama grants Interpol immunity as foreign 'assets' assigned to U.S. homeland


    Executive Order Amended to Immunize INTERPOL In America - Is The ICC Next?
    (International Criminal Court)

    ThreatsWatch.org
    December 23, 2009

    http://threatswatch.org/analysis/200...r-sovereignty/
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  17. #74
    A push to "protect" accusing witnesses, for their safety of course, is starting up. Heads up. Anybody remember this?

    Who exactly is INTERPOL right now?
    "Let it not be said that we did nothing."-Ron Paul

    "We have set them on the hobby-horse of an idea about the absorption of individuality by the symbolic unit of COLLECTIVISM. They have never yet and they never will have the sense to reflect that this hobby-horse is a manifest violation of the most important law of nature, which has established from the very creation of the world one unit unlike another and precisely for the purpose of instituting individuality."- A Quote From Some Old Book

  18. #75
    Great post devil21. Where is congress during all this? Is no one in congress upset about losing their job (to make law)? Why do we need congress if the present makes EO? And where are our representatives (at least in the house) notifying their constituents about such a policy?

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