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    Default New argument against, "They are just here to work."

    New argument for the statement, “Illegal aliens are just here to work and should be allowed to stay.”

    Can’t it also be said that, counterfeiters work hard and should be allowed to spend their money.


    If you take a look at this Consumer Price Index chart it appears that every real silver dollar we exchanged in the sixties has been counterfeited at least ten times since then.

    Counterfeiting is the only way I can think of to recreate the devaluation of our currency the way the purchasing power has been falling.


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    Maybe this will help make the danger of fiat money clear.

    Imagine you and me are setting across from each other. We create enough money to represent all of the world’s wealth. Each one of us has one Zero Dollar in front of him.


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    You own half of everything and so do I.

    I’m the government though. I get bribed into creating a Central Bank.

    You’re not doing what I want you to be doing so I print up myself eight more Zero Dollars to manipulate you with.


    All of a sudden your Zero Dollar only represents one tenth of the wealth of the world!


    That isn’t the only thing though. You need to get busy and get to work because you’ve been stiffed with the bill for the money I printed up to get you to do what I wanted.


    That to me represents what has been happening to the economy, and us, and why so many of our occupations just can’t keep up with the money presses.


    They have been beating us with our own stick!!!!1
    Last edited by Carson; 11-07-2009 at 03:43 PM.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Paulfan05 View Post
    My head hurts

    Sorry. I was trying to be gentle.

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    "They are just here to work."

    "So am I."
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    So they're "fake" laborers and have no intrinsic value?
    "My pride in my country is inversely proportional to Michelle Obama's pride in her country."
    - Me

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    nt
    Last edited by Live_Free_Or_Die; 02-26-2010 at 12:35 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TastyWheat View Post
    So they're "fake" laborers and have no intrinsic value?

    They are not fake workers so much as they are illegal workers.

    If people are going to illegally open the borders for them doesn't the act imply the opening of a lot of other borders?

    Are you just opening the nations of the worlds borders for the illegal aliens of the world to help the criminals in business and the criminals in the government that have been profiting by the conspiracy?

    There are other borders falling as a result of these actions. We now call police and other government officials things like police and other government titles when in fact they have not upheld their oaths of office. Those borders have fallen.

    Are you going to allow anyone to print up money because they have worked just as hard to print their paper as the original counterfeiters have?

    Are there any borders to the open borders crowds lawlessness?
    Last edited by Carson; 11-07-2009 at 10:52 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carson View Post
    They are not fake workers so much as they are illegal workers.
    Marijuana is illegal too. Where's your thread about stopping the drug trade?

    Are you just opening the nations of the worlds borders for the illegal aliens of the world to help the criminals in business and the criminals in the government that have been profiting by the conspiracy?
    If you are referring to illegal aliens voting then that's a different subject than them "just looking for work".

    There are other borders falling as a result of these actions. We now call police and other government officials things like police and other government titles when in fact they have not upheld their oaths of office. Those borders have fallen.
    I realize the purpose of borders is to create a division, but are all borders necessary? Isn't the fact that all those inside our borders enjoy our protection a good enough division?

    If we accept the idea of free trade, that governments should not limit the free influx and efflux of capital, that this policy creates the best benefit for the most people, then why should we take an exception to human capital? Obviously nobody wants to move to China just to get a job, but nobody wants to learn new skills either when their skill set goes out of demand.
    "My pride in my country is inversely proportional to Michelle Obama's pride in her country."
    - Me

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    They are here to take your place.
    This is an invasion.
    Pandora's box is not only open but its sides have been split with a razor and it now resides in a dumpster.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TastyWheat View Post
    Snip...

    If you are referring to illegal aliens voting then that's a different subject than them "just looking for work".


    More snipage...
    I'm mostly cheesed with the criminal activity of our government officials. They should be arrested and charged for the lawlessness they have brought to our once great nation.

    Still the illegal invaders should not be here.

    In the sixties the government came into the schools and told use the children we would be having were unwanted because we were running out of things like water and room on the roads. They pretty much annihilated my generation with their stories about the need to control the population.

    At the same time they were illegally opening up the borders to allow hoards of illegal aliens in.

    All of the children that were slaughtered were for not.


    Quote Originally Posted by TastyWheat View Post
    Snip...


    If we accept the idea of free trade, that governments should not limit the free influx and efflux of capital, that this policy creates the best benefit for the most people, then why should we take an exception to human capital? Obviously nobody wants to move to China just to get a job, but nobody wants to learn new skills either when their skill set goes out of demand.
    The developing world has always had a certain amount of free trade. The difference being it really was free trade and didn't need a label to fake people out into thinking it was free trade.

    Fixing health care?

    Global warning?

    Caution people! What are the odds they would start telling the truth now?

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