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    Tea Parties, Texas Nationalists may be joining forces

    Some organizers of the Tea Party movement, dissatisfied with what they call the "hijacking" of many of their events by politicians with the Republican Party, have opened discussions with the Texas Nationalist Movement to possibly join forces for events in the future.

    "Too many Republican politicians are getting in on the Tea Parties, and this movement was not intended to be a platform for them," said one Texas-based Tea Party event organizer, who asked tat he not be identified prior to an agreement. "We need to find candidates to run against all the incumbents of both parties and restore our government, and we're on the same page with the Texas Nationalist Movement in that regard."

    Texas Nationalist Movement President Daniel Miller said he had not yet seen full details of the proposed partnership, but said the TNM and Tea Party movements share a number of common goals and his organization would be open to holding some joint events.

    "The main thing for us is, we need to take back our government, and we can start by taking back our state," the Tea Party representative said. "People all over the country are watching what is going on in Texas, what Texas will do. If Texas is the only state we can take back, then let's do that and let's become our own country again."


    Miller said his organization has no immediate plans for any statewide events at the moment, but "that can always change if Washington does something that needs to be addressed."
    site: http://www.examiner.com/x-24030-Texa...joining-forces



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    Free Republic of Texas FTW!

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    nice!!
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    Good. Nationalists are cool in my book.

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    Cool! And don't forget where the tea parties actually started. (*cough* 9/11 truthers *cough cough*)
    9/11 Thermate experiments

    Winston Churchhill on why the U.S. should have stayed OUT of World War I

    "I am so %^&*^ sick of this cult of Ron Paul. The Paulites. What is with these %^&*^ people? Why are there so many of them?" YouTube rant by "TheAmazingAtheist"

    "We as a country have lost faith and confidence in freedom." -- Ron Paul

    "It can be a challenge to follow the pronouncements of President Trump, as he often seems to change his position on any number of items from week to week, or from day to day, or even from minute to minute." -- Ron Paul
    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    The road to hell is paved with good intentions. No need to make it a superhighway.
    Quote Originally Posted by osan View Post
    The only way I see Trump as likely to affect any real change would be through martial law, and that has zero chances of success without strong buy-in by the JCS at the very minimum.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jmdrake View Post
    Cool! And don't forget where the tea parties actually started. (*cough* 9/11 truthers *cough cough*)

    I thought the origins of the tea party movement was actually a bit of a mystery. I know the RP grassroots had events on 12/16/07 but I don't know to what extent those incited the current movement. I like to think there is a significant connection.

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    Quote Originally Posted by anaconda View Post
    I thought the origins of the tea party movement was actually a bit of a mystery. I know the RP grassroots had events on 12/16/07 but I don't know to what extent those incited the current movement. I like to think there is a significant connection.
    When the first Ron Paul Tea Party was planned, some were upset because the Boston area 9/11 truth movement had a Tea Party planned that for that same day. But the 9/11 tea party was a yearly event that started before the campaign.

    See: http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthr...oston+truthers

    There is a real tension between being "mainstream" and being on message. Truthers don't hurt the message (you can't really be pro war and pro government if you think the government is so untrustworthy that it might turn on its own people) but they (we) aren't mainstream. Some from the mainstream GOP have hurt the message. (Went to a tea party where the opening prayer ended with "And Lord help us support Israel through whom you will fulfill prophecy and we will receive salvation.) Is it better to have a smaller movement that's closer to principles or a larger movement that projects a diluted message to the world? Some things we need to work through.

    Regards,

    John M. Drake
    9/11 Thermate experiments

    Winston Churchhill on why the U.S. should have stayed OUT of World War I

    "I am so %^&*^ sick of this cult of Ron Paul. The Paulites. What is with these %^&*^ people? Why are there so many of them?" YouTube rant by "TheAmazingAtheist"

    "We as a country have lost faith and confidence in freedom." -- Ron Paul

    "It can be a challenge to follow the pronouncements of President Trump, as he often seems to change his position on any number of items from week to week, or from day to day, or even from minute to minute." -- Ron Paul
    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    The road to hell is paved with good intentions. No need to make it a superhighway.
    Quote Originally Posted by osan View Post
    The only way I see Trump as likely to affect any real change would be through martial law, and that has zero chances of success without strong buy-in by the JCS at the very minimum.



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    Quote Originally Posted by jmdrake
    When the first Ron Paul Tea Party was planned, some were upset because the Boston area 9/11 truth movement had a Tea Party planned that for that same day. But the 9/11 tea party was a yearly event that started before the campaign.

    See: http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthr...oston+truthers

    There is a real tension between being "mainstream" and being on message. Truthers don't hurt the message (you can't really be pro war and pro government if you think the government is so untrustworthy that it might turn on its own people) but they (we) aren't mainstream. Some from the mainstream GOP have hurt the message. (Went to a tea party where the opening prayer ended with "And Lord help us support Israel through whom you will fulfill prophecy and we will receive salvation.) Is it better to have a smaller movement that's closer to principles or a larger movement that projects a diluted message to the world? Some things we need to work through.

    Regards,

    John M. Drake
    Thank you for the nice response. Still, I don't think the sum total of people who advocate 9-11 transparency plus the RP grassroots have been the major inspirations for the current tea party phenomenon. I wonder if anyone did a statistically valid sampling and polling at various tea party events, to ascertain how the various participants came to be there?
    Last edited by anaconda; 10-25-2009 at 05:39 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by anaconda View Post
    Thank you for the nice response. Still, I don't think the sum total of people who advocate 9-11 transparency plus the RP grassroots have been the major inspirations for the current tea party phenomenon. I wonder if anyone did a statistically valid sampling and polling at various tea party events, to ascertain how the various participants came to be there?
    Hard to say. At the tea parties I've been to (only 2) I saw a lot of Ron Paul faces I recognized but nobody was wearing "Ron Paul gear". I saw a few people I didn't recognize wearing it. I saw some people I didn't know wearing 9/11 tshirts too, but you wouldn't know that if you didn't know the lingo. (They were the familiar "Don't tread on me" t-shirts but with "infowars.com" at the bottom). But even if you got your statistical sample, would that really tell you what the "inspiration" was? The organizers clearly got the idea from somewhere. The Ron Paul grassroots pushes the teaparty idea one year and "whatdayaknow", we're supposed to think that Glenn Beck just thought it up in his sleep? I will say this. During the campaign locally we had a couple of events that matched and/or dwarfed local tea parties I've seen.
    9/11 Thermate experiments

    Winston Churchhill on why the U.S. should have stayed OUT of World War I

    "I am so %^&*^ sick of this cult of Ron Paul. The Paulites. What is with these %^&*^ people? Why are there so many of them?" YouTube rant by "TheAmazingAtheist"

    "We as a country have lost faith and confidence in freedom." -- Ron Paul

    "It can be a challenge to follow the pronouncements of President Trump, as he often seems to change his position on any number of items from week to week, or from day to day, or even from minute to minute." -- Ron Paul
    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    The road to hell is paved with good intentions. No need to make it a superhighway.
    Quote Originally Posted by osan View Post
    The only way I see Trump as likely to affect any real change would be through martial law, and that has zero chances of success without strong buy-in by the JCS at the very minimum.



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