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    Help Stop Obama From Signing Climate Change Treaty

    I've been doing some research on the matter and came across a couple of very informative and well thought out posts from liberty minded individuals that I wanted to share. At the very end, there is also an excellent template for a letter we can email our representatives that I was given permission to share so that everyone can copy and edit as required.

    First Step:

    1. Let's verify Lord Christopher Monckton's comments and warnings in writing.

    Article: http://fightinwordsusa.wordpress.com...-british-lord/ )

    Video: YouTube - Is Obama Poised to Cede US Sovereignty?

    2. Let's get a copy of the treaty, in full. Determine who the architect of the treaty is and what country's are part of this treaty. Draft of the Copenhagen Climate Change Treaty currently out of the United Nations Framework Convention on Climate Change working group dated September 15th:

    This one appears to be the FINAL VERSION although I haven't confirmed it yet:
    http://www.greenpeace.org/raw/conten...eaty-legal.pdf

    TREATY DRAFT:
    http://unfccc.int/resource/docs/2009.../eng/inf02.pdf

    3. Once we have this information, put together a news story and present fact sheets to all of Congress and put Congress on legal notice - if an any attempt is made to sign this treaty, attend the treaty meetings or any treaty surrendering our national sovereignty, you are put on legal notice by We The People, the treaty will be null and void.


    TEMPLATE OF LETTER:

    Dear (Senator, Congressman, President),

    On October 14th, 2009, at an event hosted by the Minnesota Free Market Institute at Bethel University, Lord Christopher Monckton, former adviser to British Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher, gave a presentation on climate change. At the end of his presentation, he closed with a warning to the attendees regarding a treaty President Obama is poised to sign at this December’s United Nations Climate Change Conference in Copenhagen. This treaty will effectively cede U.S. sovereignty to a newly created global government agency, as overtly stated in the current draft of the treaty document (see http://unfccc.int/resource/docs/2009.../eng/inf02.pdf)

    Cass Sunstein, Director of the White House Office of Information and Regulatory Affairs, states “we contend that standard arguments from distributive and corrective justice fail to provide strong justifications for imposing special obligations for greenhouse gas reductions on the United States,” and warns that the United States “would probably have to bear a large burden for significant domestic emissions reductions and [is] not among the nations most gravely threatened by climate change.” See Posner & Sunstein, "Climate Change Justice," The Georgetown Law Journal, Vol 96 at 1565, 2008. Given the crippling effects to the U.S. economy and citizens perpetrated by a commitment to drastic reductions in carbon dioxide emissions, it is ludicrous for the United States to commit to the terms of any sort of “global warming” treaty, especially one as damaging to U.S. domestic interests as the Copenhagen Treaty.

    It is my expectation that you will fulfill your oath to defend and uphold the Constitution of the United States by petitioning the president and your fellow members of Congress to do everything in their power to keep this country out of that treaty. The Founding Fathers would roll over in their graves if they knew their progeny allowed a foreign power such authority, effectively undoing their every effort in an act of Anti-American Revolution. This is neither hyperbole nor rhetoric. This treaty would leave us accountable to a global governing agency with zero elected representation and zero constitutional protections. It must not be signed!

    Thank you. I would appreciate a response indicating your position on the treaty and your intended course of action.

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    4. Everyone who has a website should put a good size post on their front page and circulate the info around the world that we the people consider any surrender of national sovereignty an act of war.


    5. Lastly, put out press releases to all media outlets.


    6. Prepare for war if necessary.

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    RESOURCES:

    Law review article co-authored by Cass Sunstien entitled "Climate Change Justice." Sunstein: Climate Change Justice. The Intro and Conclusions are surprising, and may provide some ammunition against Obama's signing the Treaty.

    Unratified Treaties, Domestic Politics, and the U.S. Constitution
    http://www.harvardilj.org/print/117

    Library of Congress:
    http://www.loc.gov/law/help/guide/treaties.php

    New World Encyclopedia on Treaties:
    http://www.newworldencyclopedia.org/entry/Treaty

    Some further perspective from an individual's post on the "fightinwordsusa" blogsite:

    Elected officials, while acting as agents for the principals, who are the American people, do not have agency status to transfer sovereignty of their principals to another government, regardless of the language in the Constitution. Remember, the U.S. Constitution was to bind the government, not the American people.

    The sovereign American people are higher than the U.S. Constitution. Only government officials who provide an oath or affirmation to support and defend the Constitution come under the criteria of such a document.

    So when “Lord” Obama thinks he may transfer the sovereignty of the United States to some foreign government, such an act being a treasonous offense, he does not give away the sovereignty of the American people at large, one whit.
    If Obama does sign the treaty, the American people need to call for his impeachment for high crimes and misdemeanors. Treason defined is waging war against the several states, i.e. “them” (Constitution, Article III, Sect. 3, Clause 1).

    The American people constitute “the state in fact” (case cite omitted), so when an act inimical to their best interests, as will be by the signing of a treaty which purportedly subjugates the jurisdiction of the United States under some foreign body, the signer is waging war against the sovereigns. The sovereign Americans need to act to remove the usurper by the means constituted, since such an act of treason cannot be tolerated.

    And if the elected officials do not do the peoples’ will, preferring instead to support a fascist state of corporatism (as described by Benito Mussolini), the American people need to fully understand the extended treasonous acts of Congress, and deal with them accordingly.

    The spirit of the American Revolution lives on. It is the right pursuant of the Declaration of Independence for Americans to throw off a government which acts contrary to the will of their principals. This understanding includes regaining the lawful currency control, now under the unlawful hands of the Federal Reserve.
    Enough said.



    Please add any other suggestions and resources.

    This info needs to go "viral" as soon as possible!



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    Also add John Holdren, Obama’s Science Czar: Forced Abortions and Mass Sterilization Needed to Save the Planet

    http://www.prisonplanet.com/john-hol...he-planet.html

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    This is very important. While we are all fighting over healthcare, it looks like Obama is about to hand over control of global energy resources to the U.N.

    This gives them just about total control over our economy.

    Lord Monckton's entire speech is here...

    YouTube - Lord Christopher Monckton Speaking at Bethel University

    It is long, but it is a must listen in order to understand the issues and the deliberate distortion of the facts behind global warming.

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    Other good material on this subject includes the book "Cool It: A Skeptical Environmentalist's Guide to Global Warming" by Bjorn Lomborg.

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    You may need to see if the Law of the Sea Treaty, giving the UN control over all new energy sources plays into this also.

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    Bugger i did a search on this, failed and reposted. Never mind. Glad it is out here.
    If this guy (Lord Monckton) is an imposter, he sure does it with panache!!!
    The world does not consist of a throng of geniuses. WilliamBanzai7

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    How about adding this


    This is a UN inspired treaty and the global warming lies are based on the UN’s IPCC corrupt science (remember that the Rockefellers fund and design most UN programs). Also, the Rothschilds have set up a carbon credit banking scheme (2). Follow the money.

    the Supremacy Clause of the Constitution, Article IV, paragraph 2, reads as follows:

    “This Constitution, and the Laws of the United States which shall be made in Pursuance thereof; and all Treaties made, or which shall be made, under the Authority of the United States, shall be the Supreme Law of the Land; and the Judges in every State shall be bound thereby, any Thing in the Constitution or Laws of any State to the contrary notwithstanding.”

    The Supremacy Clause has been misinterpreted and twisted to mean that treaties supersede the Constitution. The United Nations Educational, Scientific and Cultural Organization (UNESCO) has a hand in accrediting schools; it’s now wonder that many “well educated” attorneys misinterpret the Constitution (3). It is also interesting to note that the Rockefellers have debased American education and history as outlined in G. Edward Griffin’s shocking interview with the late Senator, Norman Dodd

    As a result, the Supremacy Clause is misunderstood and has yet to be clearly defined, though many have tried to get a Supreme Court decision on this matter. Constitutional expert, former Sheriff Richard Mack is emphatic that treaties are subservient to the Constitution, and that many lawyers are misinformed.

    Further proof that the Constitution outranks treaties can be extrapolated from the Supreme Court decision Reid v Covert, which states, “This Court has regularly and uniformly recognized the supremacy of the Constitution over a treaty”, althought the ruling was applied to an executive agreement, not a treaty.

    Knowledge about the global warming scam and our Constitution are the way out of this trap that has been set for us. It will be much easier to stop this treaty based on lies now, rather than later. The future is in our hands; it’s time to stand up for our country, and pervent this treaty from happing.

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    One-two Child policy is in the works more Propaganda.


    Andrew Revkin, who reports on environmental issues for The New York Times, floated an idea last week for combating global warming: Give carbon credits to couples that limit themselves to having one child.

    Revkin later told CNSNews.com that he was not endorsing the idea, just trying to provoke some thinking on the topic.

    Revkin participated via Web camera in an Oct. 14 panel discussion on “Covering Climate: What’s Population Got to Do With It” that was held at the Woodrow Wilson Center in Washington, D.C. The other participants on the panel were Dennis Dimick, executive editor of National Geographic, and Emily Douglas, web editor for The Nation magazine.


    http://www.infowars.com/new-york-tim...-to-one-child/



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    Well we better get busy on those steps. I wonder why C4L hasn't checked into this or posted anything about it?
    Last edited by catdd; 10-21-2009 at 07:58 PM.
    "Molon Labe"

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    Will the upcoming Copenhagen climate talks usher in a one-world government?





    Lord Christopher Monckton, the former advisor for science policy to Lady Margaret Thatcher, believes that if the U.S. signs any climate treaty coming out of the Copenhagen climate change conference in December, it could subject the United States to a global dictatorship. Monckton explains his concerns.

    "[T]his treaty of Copenhagen, which is going to be negotiated by the states' parties to the United Nations Framework Convention on Climate Change in December, is going to...establish for the first time in human history a global government," he warns. (Please see poll at bottom of page)


    Monckton contends that the word "government" appears twice in paragraph 38 of the draft, and that paragraphs 36 through 38 explain that the purpose of the treaty is to establish a world government. "Whose job," he explains, "will be to transfer wealth from the wealthy countries, such as the United States most of all, to Third World countries -- and the excuse for this transfer of wealth is so-called 'reparation.'"

    Reparation for so-called "climate debt," he adds. Monckton notes that the U.N. believes the U.S. owes the world this debt because of its use of fossil fuels, which he says are mistakenly blamed for causing "manmade global warming." He adds that this world government will have the ability to make the U.S. pay. Monckton is hopeful that the U.S. will lack the willingness to ratify such a dangerous treaty.

    "It must be passed by a two-thirds majority in the Senate, which is 67 out of your 100 senators," says Monckton. "Now I don't think that Obama will find it at all easy to get a two-thirds majority...but during his election campaign one of his advisors said that he [Obama] regarded the U.S. Constitution as merely a piece of paper...and he saw it as a barrier to the things that the Left around the world want to do -- and therefore they were going to find ways of circumventing it."

    One way of doing that, says Monckton, is to amend the Copenhagen Treaty to the current cap-and-trade bill in the U.S. House and Senate and get it passed by a simple majority. Monckton notes that if Obama takes this route, then the treaty merely becomes domestic law and can be overturned later on.

    Provided the Senate stands firm against such a move, Monckton says the U.S. will remain "unsullied" by this new "dictatorship" being established by the Copenhagen Treaty.

    "We sleep-walked into a dictatorship in Europe," he laments. "Alright, it appears to be a benevolent dictatorship for now, though it's a very expensive one -- but you still don't want [America] to go there. Democracy is valuable.

    "In this country [the U.S.], which is the cradle of freedom, I hope you will cling to your democracy, [that] you will all fight this sinister treaty, you will say no to it very, very firmly -- and [that] you will remain the beacon of freedom for the world."

    http://www.onenewsnow.com/Politics/D...spx?id=734422#

    UN Secretary General: ‘A climate deal must include an equitable global governance structure’

    Every day, the critical December summit in Copenhagen grows closer. All agree that climate change is an existential threat to humankind. Yet agreement on what to do still eludes us.

    How can this be? The issues are complex, affecting everything from national economies to individual lifestyles. They involve political trade-offs and commitments of resources no leader can undertake lightly. We could see all that at recent climate negotiations in Bangkok. Where we needed progress, we saw gridlock.

    Yet the elements of a deal are on the table. All we require to put them in place is political will. We need to step back from narrow national interest and engage in frank and constructive discussion in a spirit of global common cause.


    A deal needs to be backed by money and the means to deliver it. Developing countries need funding and technology so they can move more quickly toward green growth. The solutions we discuss cannot be realized without substantial additional financing, including through carbon markets and private investment.

    A deal must include an equitable global governance structure. All countries must have a voice in how resources are deployed and managed. That is how trust will be built.

    http://www.prisonplanet.com/un-secre...structure.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by raiha View Post
    Bugger i did a search on this, failed and reposted. Never mind. Glad it is out here.
    If this guy (Lord Monckton) is an imposter, he sure does it with panache!!!
    Doesn't seem to be an "impostor"
    http://www.globalwarmingheartland.co...m?expertId=349

    Lord Christopher Monckton
    Chief Policy Advisor
    Science and Public Policy Institute


    Lord Christopher Monckton, Third Viscount Monckton of Brenchley, is chief policy advisor to the Science and Public Policy Institute.

    The eldest son of the 2nd Viscount Monckton of Brenchley, Monckton was educated at Harrow School, Churchill College, Cambridge and University College, Cardiff. He joined the Yorkshire Post in 1974 and then worked as a press officer at the Conservative Central Office from 1977-79.

    In 1979, he became the editor of the Catholic newspaper, The Universe, and then a managing editor of The Sunday Telegraph’s Magazine in 1981. In 1982 he returned to the Conservative offices again, this time as UK Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher’s policy advisor, where he served from 1982 to 1986.

    While at 10 Downing Street, Lord Monckton gave policy advice on technical issues such as warship hydrodynamics (his work led to his appointment as the youngest Trustee of the Hales Trophy for the Blue Riband of the Atlantic), psephological modeling (predicting the result of the 1983 General Election to within one seat), embryological research, hydrogeology (leading to the award of major financial assistance to a Commonwealth country for the construction of a very successful hydroelectric scheme), public-service investment analysis(leading to savings of tens of billions of pounds), public welfare modeling (his model of the UK tax and benefit system was, at the time, more detailed than the Treasury’s economic model, and led to a major simplification of the housing benefit system) and epidemiological analysis.

    On leaving 10 Downing Street, Lord Monckton became assistant editor of the newly-formed (and now defunct) newspaper, Today. His final job in journalism was as a consulting editor of the Evening Standard from 1987 -1992.

    Monckton has since been a director of his own specialist consultancy company, giving technical advice to corporations and governments. In 1999, he created the eternity puzzle, a geometric puzzle which involved tiling a dodecagon with 209 irregularly shaped polygons called polydrafters. A Ł1m prize was won after 18 months. By that time, 500,000 puzzles had been sold. A second puzzle, Eternity II, is to be launched in July 2007, with a prize of $2 million.

    Monckton has been in the news in recent months due to his scepticism of global warming. In November 2006, he published in The Daily Telegraph a widely publicized article critical of the prevailing climate change opinions. After U.S. Senators Rockefeller and Snowe wrote a letter to the Chief Executive Officer of ExxonMobil asking him to stop funding scientists who reject global warming, Lord Monckton wrote a letter to the senators reminding them of the First Amendment of the U.S. Constitution and calling on them to reverse their position or resign. In February 2007, he published an analysis and summary of the IPCC Fourth Assessment Report on climate change.
    Liberty is lost through complacency and a subservient mindset. When we accept or even welcome automobile checkpoints, random searches, mandatory identification cards, and paramilitary police in our streets, we have lost a vital part of our American heritage. America was born of protest, revolution, and mistrust of government. Subservient societies neither maintain nor deserve freedom for long.
    Ron Paul 2004

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    The Treaty of Copenhagen, is being prepared for signing in mid-December 2009. It would create an unelected world government with direct power over all financial and trading markets, and direct power to intervene over the heads of elected governments in the economic and environmental affairs of all nations signing the Treaty. The new, supranational bureaucratic entity will have the power to redistribute up to 2% of wealthy nations annual gross domestic product to third-world countries in reparation for imaginary "climate debt" - just as undeniable scientific proof becomes available that CO2 has only a tiny and harmless warming effect! Please support the Instrument of Repudiation, and urge at least five of your friends to support it too. Please sign up to oppose the Treaty and preserve America's freedom, democracy, and prosperity.

    http://www.webcommentary.com/signrep.php

    http://factsnotfantasy.blogspot.com/...imategate.html
    Last edited by Pepsi; 11-23-2009 at 05:30 PM.

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    One thing he says is wrong is the fact that Treaties can override the Constitution which is false. They become law of the land only under the authority of the United States. If the Treaty violates the Constitution, it cannot be signed and authorized by the Senate. Meaning, if the Treaty goes beyond the power which the Constitution authorizes the federal government, it is null and void.

    “A treaty cannot be made which alters the Constitution of the country, or which infringes any express exceptions to the power of the Constitution" Alexander Hamilton

    Supreme Court rule on the matter in Reid v. Covert, 354 U.S. 1 (1957):
    " . . .no agreement with a foreign nation can confer on Congress or any other branch of the Government power which is free from the restraints of the Constitution. . . . "

    Chief Justice of the United States Joseph Story wrote:
    "A power given by the Constitution cannot be construed to authorize a destruction of other powers given in the same instrument. . . . A treaty to change the organization of the Government, or to annihilate its sovereignty, to overturn its republican form, or to deprive it of its constitutional powers, would be void; because it would destroy what it was designed merely to fulfill, the will of the people."
    Last edited by literatim; 11-23-2009 at 06:03 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by literatim View Post
    One thing he says is wrong is the fact that Treaties can override the Constitution which is false. They become law of the land only under the authority of the United States. If the Treaty violates the Constitution, it cannot be signed and authorized by the Senate. Meaning, if the Treaty goes beyond the power which the Constitution authorizes the federal government, it is null and void.

    “A treaty cannot be made which alters the Constitution of the country, or which infringes any express exceptions to the power of the Constitution" Alexander Hamilton

    If the majority of Americans don't understand this Constitutional principle (which seems to be the case in my experience), does it even matter?
    Quote Originally Posted by Torchbearer
    what works can never be discussed online. there is only one language the government understands, and until the people start speaking it by the magazine full... things will remain the same.
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    Quote Originally Posted by literatim View Post
    One thing he says is wrong is the fact that Treaties can override the Constitution which is false. They become law of the land only under the authority of the United States. If the Treaty violates the Constitution, it cannot be signed and authorized by the Senate. Meaning, if the Treaty goes beyond the power which the Constitution authorizes the federal government, it is null and void.

    “A treaty cannot be made which alters the Constitution of the country, or which infringes any express exceptions to the power of the Constitution" Alexander Hamilton
    Although you're totally correct in the Constitutional sense, this is the same as saying that Congress cannot pass universal health care because it's unconstitutional. Actually, it's even harder to convince people of, because there's already a BS Supreme Court ruling on the issue..
    Quote Originally Posted by President John F. Kennedy
    And we must face the fact that the United States is neither omnipotent nor omniscient. That we are only 6% of the world's population, and that we cannot impose our will upon the other 94% of mankind. That we cannot right every wrong or reverse each adversity, and that therefore there cannot be an American solution to every world problem.
    I need an education in US history, from the ground up. Can you help point me to a comprehensive, unbiased, scholarly resource?



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    Quote Originally Posted by heavenlyboy34 View Post
    If the majority of Americans don't understand this Constitutional principle (which seems to be the case in my experience), does it even matter?
    Everything matters when presenting the reason why every branch of the federal government is completely corrupt to its core.

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    Quote Originally Posted by literatim View Post
    Everything matters when presenting the reason why every branch of the federal government is completely corrupt to its core.
    I agree, and I'm totally with you in principle, but if people didn't care when people like RP and Schiff were articulating the message, why will they care now? (I'm not being flippant or anything, btw, just trying to get a better understanding of where you're coming from)
    Quote Originally Posted by Torchbearer
    what works can never be discussed online. there is only one language the government understands, and until the people start speaking it by the magazine full... things will remain the same.
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    Quote Originally Posted by heavenlyboy34 View Post
    I agree, and I'm totally with you in principle, but if people didn't care when people like RP and Schiff were articulating the message, why will they care now? (I'm not being flippant or anything, btw, just trying to get a better understanding of where you're coming from)
    The more evidence we present, the more minds will be won over.

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    UN Document Divulges Climate Cult Brainwashing

    Kids coerced into performing global warming song as strategy document reveals plan to greenwash young minds by turning environmentalism into gaia religion

    With the reverberations of climategate still echoing, it has now emerged that children are being greenwashed in public schools by being forced to sing climate cult ditties and hate their parents as part of a United Nations propaganda program aimed at capturing young minds, as the UN itself officially acknowledges the global warming mantra as a new religion.

    A shocking new UN strategy document also reveals how elitists are recruiting members of academia from all over the globe in an effort to hide the “end-run” around national sovereignty that their program represents.

    “When did global warming turn into a forced religion?,” asks the New York Post’s Andrea Peyser as she tells the story of how her daughter came home from school singing the words ” . . . You can hear the warning — GLOBAL WARMING . . . “.

    “All the kids had been coerced into singing this catchy ditty, which we called “The Warming Song,” at a concert for parents. Further song lyrics scolded selfish adults (that would be us) for polluting our planet and causing a warming scourge that would, in no short order, kill all the polar bears and threaten the birds and bees,” writes Peyser.

    That’s right, in the spirit of the Club of Rome’s 1991 resolution to make humanity the enemy in creating the contrived threat of environmental armageddon, children have been turned against their own parents in the service of a new gaia religion.

    “In searching for a new enemy to unite us, we came up with the idea that pollution, the threat of global warming, water shortages, famine and the like would fit the bill. All these dangers are caused by human intervention, and it is only through changed attitudes and behavior that they can be overcome. The real enemy then, is humanity itself.,” they wrote in a report entitled “The First Global Revolution”.

    “Our children are on the front lines of the warming hysteria, a place where “experts” from Al Gore to the president leave no room for dissent or even the slightest skepticism, despite claims that are no more provable than the Earth is flat.,” says Peyser.

    A newly uncovered document sheds some light on the genesis of how such brainwashing found its way into our schools.

    A strategy paper for the United Nations Environmental Program (UNEP), the world’s would-be environmental watchdog, reveals how the global elite in charge of the green takeover resolved that, “Environmentalism should be regarded on the same level with religion “as the only compelling, value-based narrative available to humanity,” according to a Fox News report.

    This approach follows a similar tack to the new methods adopted by Al Gore, who in his recent presentations has delivered his message as a kind of religious sermon, acknowledging, “Simply laying out the facts won’t work.”

    The UN planning paper outlines a program of implementing a global system of governance based around environmental regulations and laws, stressing the agenda for the “evolutionary nature of strengthening international environmental governance.”

    Participants included Janos Pasztor, currently head of the team pushing U.N. Secretary General Ban Ki-moon’s unprecedented Seal the Deal lobbying campaign to pressure U.N. member governments into signing a new environmental agreement at Copenhagen, Dominic Waughray, currently head of environmental initiatives at the World Economic Forum; and Maria Ivanova, and Bulgarian academic Maria Ivanova, director of the Global Economic Governance Project at the Yale Center for Environmental Law and Policy.

    A core element of the program includes, “an extensive propagandizing role for UNEP that reaches beyond its member governments and traditional environmental institutions to “children and youth”.

    “Civil society, including children and youth, and the private sector will be reached through tailor-made outreach products and campaigns,” states the document.

    The document discusses recruiting academia to further the power of UNEP, noteworthy in light of the recent climategate scandal where scientists at major universities were caught hiding evidence of global cooling.

    As the Swiss paper puts it, UNEP “should pioneer a new style of work. This requires going beyond a narrow interpretation of UNEP’s stakeholders as comprising its member states — or even the world’s governments — and recruiting a far wider community of support, in civil society, the academic world and the private sector.” At the same time the paper warns that these groups need to be “harnessed to the UNEP mission without appearing to make an end-run around the member governments.”

    This passage is fairly damning, as the UN is all but admitting that the program does represent an “end-run around member governments,” and that they have to do their best to hide the fact.

    The goals enshrined in the document, a counterpart to the globally binding agreement the UN is seeking to achieve in Copenhagen next month, are “certain to remain a UNEP rallying cry long after the Copenhagen meeting is over — and while the other brainstorming ideas that went into the new four-year strategy, not to mention the strategy itself, go into effect,” writes Fox News’ George Russell.

    This document represents yet another smoking gun proving that the climate cult movement is all about expanding the power of a dictatorial, unelected global government, diluting powers of nation states, seizing control of the global economy, eviscerating the middle class with a raft of new regulations and laws, and shutting down industry with impossible CO2 reduction mandates, while erecting environmentalism, which is really a thin veil for global fascism, as the new universal religion.

    This has nothing to do with saving the earth and, as the climategate scandal has illustrated, nothing to do with the real science – but everything to do with a relatively small clique of globalists running roughshod over humanity itself in pursuit of their malthusian control freak agenda.

    http://www.prisonplanet.com/shocking...inwashing.html

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    The implementation of policies arising out of fraudulent fearmongering and biased studies on global warming is already devastating the third world, with a doubling in food prices causing mass starvation and death – a primary reason why the climategate crooks and their allies should be criminally investigated and hit with the strongest charges possible.

    As Lord Monckton outlined in his recent Alex Jones Show appearance, climate change alarmism and implementation of global warming policies is a crime of the highest nature, because it is already having a genocidal impact in countries like Haiti, where the doubling of food prices is resulting in a substantial increase in starvation, poverty and death.

    Poor people around the world, “Are being killed in large numbers by starvation as a result of (climate change) policy,” said Monckton, due to huge areas of agricultural land being turned over to the growth of biofuels.

    “Take Haiti where they live on mud pie with real mud costing 3 cents each….that’s what they’re living or rather what they’re dying on,” said Monckton, relating how when he gave a speech on this subject, a lady in the front row burst into tears and told him, “I’ve just come back from Haiti – now because of the doubling in world food prices, they can’t even afford the price of a mud pie and they’re dying of starvation all over the place.”

    As a National Geographic Report confirmed, “With food prices rising, Haiti’s poorest can’t afford even a daily plate of rice, and some must take desperate measures to fill their bellies,” by “eating mud,” partly as a consequence of “increasing global demand for biofuels.”

    In April last year, World Bank President Robert Zoellick admitted that biofuels were a “significant contributor” to soaring food prices that have led to riots in countries such as Haiti, Egypt, the Philippines, and even Italy.

    “We estimate that a doubling of food prices over the last three years could potentially push 100 million people in low-income countries deeper into poverty,” he stated.

    “That’s how serious this is, these people, by their scientific fraud and financial fraud, they’re profiting enormously….while people die of starvation in a dozen regions of the world….it is a scandal of the worst proportion – our own fellow creatures are being killed by starvation because these people have lied and made up the science and hidden it so nobody else could check,” said Monckton.

    If the measures currently being debated at the Copenhagen summit in the name of fighting global warming are passed, we can only expect a further assault on the already horrifying plight of the population of the third world.

    In the leaked Copenhagen text that emerged earlier this week, leaders of third world countries were horrified to discover that developed nations would take on less of a burden than anticipated and that more would be demanded of poorer countries despite the fact that any further cuts in CO2 emissions would further cripple their flimsy economies and poverty-stricken people.

    In addition, the leaked paper revealed that funds from climate financing, originally allocated to go to the UN and then be doled out piecemeal to third world nations, would instead be paid directly into the coffers of the World Bank and IMF, organizations that have made a habit out of looting poorer countries with crippling loans that cannot be paid back, forcing such countries to hand over their entire infrastructure to globalist loan sharks.

    The fact that policies arising out of the contrived science of global warming are already killing people in vast numbers in the third world further illustrates the fact that the entire climate change movement is a Malthusian offshoot of the profusely stated goal on behalf of the global elite to eliminate a huge chunk of the global population via modern-day eugenics.

    This agenda was vehemently argued for by President Obama’s top science advisor and one of the pre-eminent climate change ringleaders, John P. Holdren, in his 1977 book Ecoscience, in which he called for installing a “planetary regime” to enforce draconian population control measures such as forced abortion and mandatory sterilization through the water supply.

    Watch the segment from the interview below where Monckton discusses how the climate crooks are deliberately devastating the third world with their lies about global warming.

    http://www.infowars.com/third-world-...change-policy/

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    Boycott Copenhagen:

    On Monday, December 7, 2009, diplomats from around the world launched a two-week "summit" in Copenhagen, Denmark, with the goal of imposing international taxes and regulations, under the guise of so-called global warming, that will severely cripple the U.S. economy and put a permanent dent in the budgets of American families.

    An international organization should not be allowed to impose gigantic taxes on hard-working Americans to satisfy the whims of third-world despots like Iran's Mahmoud Ahmadinejad and North Korea's Kim Jong-Il. Moreover, in light of the recent Climategate scandal, hard-working Americans should not be regulated or taxed based upon the fraudulent and cooked up data of global warming alarmists.

    Simply put, I urge you to vigorously oppose the Copenhagen Climate Summit and any international agreement that would tax or fine American families for so-called greenhouse emissions. Furthermore, I demand that you oppose any programs, including job-killing Cap-and-Trade measures, based on highly
    questionable science!

    https://fs8.formsite.com/cfiforg/for...ure_index.html

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    LibForestPaul
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    Quote Originally Posted by literatim View Post
    The more evidence we present, the more minds will be won over.
    The only thing that will change their small minds is pain, and lots of it. Luckily, TBTB will be providing more than enough , and then some.

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    Delegates at the Copenhagen climate change conference are being told that the price of air travel has to rise as the world meets the challenge of capping carbon emissions and keeping temperatures from rising.

    A report by Britain’s Committee on Climate Change (COCC) suggests the airline industry can grow by as much as 60 per cent by 2050 without affecting the country’s ambitious climate targets.

    British Prime Minister Gordon Brown has promised to cut carbon emissions by 80 per cent on 1990 levels over the next 40 years.

    Heathrow in London is the busiest airport in the world – 70 million passengers transit through there every year.

    http://www.prisonplanet.com/aviation...onference.html

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  32. #28
    Is there much hope of shooting this thing down so late in the game?

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    Exclusive: Lead Author Admits Deleting Inconvenient Opinions From IPCC Report

    http://propagandamatrix.com/articles...s_deleting.htm

  34. #30
    Quote Originally Posted by BuddyRey View Post
    Is there much hope of shooting this thing down so late in the game?
    doubt it. considering how responsive the "elected" are to the people's desires, I really don't see how anything that is done at this point by the general populace (short of an all out bloody assault on the government centers) will have any affect whatsoever.

    Consider the 80%+ of the population who actually expressed outrage of the bailout. Consider the 90%+ re-election rate of all of those congress-critters that voted for it.

    you aren't represented in washington. No one there is looking out for you or doing what is in your best interests. They aren't even pretending anymore to do what they think is in your best interests.
    he-he-he.... I tiffled

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