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    US-Mexico groups urges new US assault weapons ban

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20091014/...mexico_us_guns

    MEXICO CITY – The United States should reinstate a Clinton-era ban on assault weapons to prevent such guns from reaching Mexican drug cartels, former officials from both countries said in a report released Tuesday.

    The group, which includes two former U.S. ambassadors to Mexico, also said the U.S. should do more to stop the smuggling of firearms and ammunition into Mexico by stepping up investigations of gun dealers and more strictly regulating gun shows.

    The Binational Task Force on the United States-Mexico Border listed the assault weapons ban as a step the U.S. should take immediately to improve security in both countries. The 10-year ban expired in 2004.

    "Improving our efforts ... will weaken the drug cartels and disrupt their illegal activities, and make it easier ultimately to dismantle and destroy them," said Robert Bonner, co-chairman of the group and former head of both the U.S. Drug Enforcement Administration and Customs and Border Protection agency.

    U.S. and Mexican officials say drug cartels frequently use assault rifles, which are banned in Mexico but easily purchased in the United States.

    Mexican President Felipe Calderon launched a nationwide crackdown on drug cartels when he took office in December 2006. The offensive has been met with unprecedented violence, leaving more than 13,800 people dead.

    During his run for office, President Barack Obama promised to push to reinstate the ban. He has since said he would rather enforce existing laws that make it illegal to send assault weapons across the border.

    Other recommendations related to border security included restructuring Mexico's law enforcement operations to create a counterpart to the U.S. Border Patrol, increasing U.S. assistance to Mexico to build up law enforcement and reducing demand for drugs in the United States through more treatment programs.



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    These guys do so well with the war on drugs, we should obviously listen to more advice from them.
    We have allies many of you are not aware of. Watch the tube. Show this to your 30 and under friends. Listen to it. Even if you don't like rap, it has 2.7 million views.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kmBnvajSfWU#t=0m16s

    Cut off one min early to avoid war porn.

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    I will argue that it would be more profitable AND more peaceful to de-criminalize marijuana and hemp, then invite senior Drug Lords to come in outta the cold.

    They are MUCH better at running businesses than our "legal" executives. They could teach us a thing or two about a thing or two.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cheapseats View Post
    I will argue that it would be more profitable AND more peaceful to de-criminalize marijuana and hemp, then invite senior Drug Lords to come in outta the cold.

    They are MUCH better at running businesses than our "legal" executives. They could teach us a thing or two about a thing or two.
    americans run the black market on this side of the border.
    its a partnership for the most part between the drug rings of mexico and those in america.
    If marijuana was totally legal today- you'd see what i'm talking about...
    rewritten history with armies of their crooks - invented memories, did burn all the books... Mark Knopfler

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    Disarming law abiding citizens isn't going to solve the problem.

    Legalize pot and you cripple the cartels.

    YouTube - 'Legalizing pot hits drug cartels'

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    Quote Originally Posted by torchbearer View Post
    americans run the black market on this side of the border.
    its a partnership for the most part between the drug rings of mexico and those in america.
    If marijuana was totally legal today- you'd see what i'm talking about...
    Believe me, I GET IT that this is Big Big Business -- on both sides of the border and for both Drug Lords and Government.

    We'll all pretend to look the other way while people take off fatigues and put on Magic Suits. Nudge nudge, wink wink. We never saw a thing. Like eating meat on Friday was a sin, then suddenly it wasn't. This is NEON low-hanging fruit. Plenty of profit to go around.

    Unless we drag this S.N.A.F.U. out until Monsanto secures the lion's share by snapping up the lion's share of arable land. Which is presently what they are doing throughout the Midwest.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cheapseats View Post
    Believe me, I GET IT that this is Big Big Business -- both sides of the border and for both Drug Lords and Government.

    We'll all pretend to look the other way while people take off fatigues and put on Magic Suits. This is NEON low-hanging fruit. Plenty of profit to go around.

    So long as we aren't planning to drag this S.N.A.F.U. out until Monsanto secures the lion's share via purchase of the lion's share of arable land. Which is presently what they are doing throughout the Midwest.
    My family still has the 1000 acres we used to farm.
    They legalize hemp and marijuana, I'd put the farm back in business.
    So would a lot of other small farmers who are now out of farming.

    With it legal, we could grow better strains.
    Mexico would become very poor really quick if we legalized drugs here.
    rewritten history with armies of their crooks - invented memories, did burn all the books... Mark Knopfler

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    Quote Originally Posted by torchbearer View Post
    My family still has the 1000 acres we used to farm.
    They legalize hemp and marijuana, I'd put the farm back in business.
    So would a lot of other small farmers who are now out of farming.

    With it legal, we could grow better strains.
    Mexico would become very poor really quick if we legalized drugs here.
    I hope to speak with you about that thousand acres when I pass through Louisiana.



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    Quote Originally Posted by torchbearer View Post
    My family still has the 1000 acres we used to farm.
    They legalize hemp and marijuana, I'd put the farm back in business.
    So would a lot of other small farmers who are now out of farming.

    With it legal, we could grow better strains.
    Mexico would become very poor really quick if we legalized drugs here.
    I don't think legalization for citizen growers is in the cards.

    From what I understand from the med community here, big pharma is working on patenting genetics to lock out non-pharma growers. Since they have fed.gov by the balls they call the shots.

    Monsanto would of course jump in too (and I'm sure they have their strains ready to roll).

    The Dutch are also cracking down on breeders.

    That could be DEVASTATING to the cannabis gene pool...

    Point being, if legalization happens, don't think the little guys will get to play.
    Heads and Hips, Heads and Hips!



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