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  1. #3121
    Dow down more than expected , it is early though in the day . Still , Gold should push through 1320.00 .
    Do something Danke



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  3. #3122
    Looks like the Nikkei is still up 1 3/4 percent for the year , the Dow 6 percent for the quarter 8 percent for the year. I will just keep using the locked 4 percent I get for a few dollars and reinvest the rest in something different .
    Do something Danke

  4. #3123
    Dow up 220 this morning , S & P pretty flat .
    Do something Danke

  5. #3124
    Without looking the Dow is probably about where it was this time last year .
    Do something Danke

  6. #3125
    Quote Originally Posted by oyarde View Post
    Without looking the Dow is probably about where it was this time last year .
    It has been hanging out near 24,000- 26,000 for quite a while now (since January, 2018). Trump wants the Fed to juice the money supply to make it go higher and higher.
    Last edited by Zippyjuan; 03-26-2019 at 06:19 PM.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    The quality seems to have dropped significantly since I came here, I guess you get what you pay for.
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  7. #3126
    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    It has been hanging out near 24,000- 26,000 for quite a while now (since January, 2018). Trump wants the Fed to juice the money supply to make it go higher and higher.
    Five quarters and no money made . Americans are not very patient . Wonder where they dump it next ?
    Do something Danke

  8. #3127
    Quote Originally Posted by oyarde View Post
    Five quarters and no money made . Americans are not very patient . Wonder where they dump it next ?
    My investments are making money, an average of 8% dividend yield, higher if you consider my buy price. The market could keep going sideways all year and I'd be fine with it.

  9. #3128
    8 percent is good and you are at an age where it is important to make some . At my age I just rather not lose any . I can get a guaranteed four from my savings account at my Life Ins co so I put a little in there and pay my property taxes and buy ammo and gold with the rest . I am having fun .
    Do something Danke



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  11. #3129
    Quote Originally Posted by specsaregood View Post
    My investments are making money, an average of 8% dividend yield, higher if you consider my buy price. The market could keep going sideways all year and I'd be fine with it.
    8% yield is pretty high. Usually that means higher risk investments. I do like dividend investments though. You make money no matter what the stock price does. I have a couple in DRIPs where the dividends are automatically rolled over into more shares (and come with little to no fees even on additional purchases).
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    The quality seems to have dropped significantly since I came here, I guess you get what you pay for.
    "There is always a tweet. That has become accepted fact in the Trump presidency: For every pronouncement the President makes, there is at least one tweet from his past that directly contradicts his current view." -CNN

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  12. #3130
    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    8% yield is pretty high. Usually that means higher risk investments. I do like dividend investments though. You make money no matter what the stock price does. I have a couple in DRIPs where the dividends are automatically rolled over into more shares (and come with little to no fees even on additional purchases).

    Meh, I consider the entire stock market high risk since you are depending on other people to do something with your money. But there are plenty of pretty safe stocks you can get in the 8% or higher range. Especially if you wait to buy them when they go down unreasonably along with the entire market. But yeah, I own only a handful of stocks that don't pay decent dividends 4.5%+.

  13. #3131
    A little turmoil in Brazil. Their market etf EWZ at 38.5 after hours down almost 8% today. Usually a good idea to buy panic.

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  15. #3133
    Market probably a buy with a half position here at 282.5 and hold for small rally. Maybe sell first up close vs previous day. Add if Monday opens down big.

  16. #3134
    Quote Originally Posted by Krugminator2 View Post
    Market probably a buy with a half position here at 282.5 and hold for small rally. Maybe sell first up close vs previous day. Add if Monday opens down big.
    SPY at 288.4 four hours later.

  17. #3135


    @specsaregood

    Quote Originally Posted by Krugminator2 View Post
    My hold time is pretty short. So I am the wrong person to ask. But since you did ask...

    USAS in the low 2s high 1s might be worth a look. https://www.americassilvercorp.com/s...1/2018q2fs.pdf

    Trades right at book value. Their primary business was silver but mining silver is unprofitable at these prices. The company figured out how to survive by focusing on lead and zinc production and if silver prices ever recover they will be in position to take advantage. Silver is at 2006 levels right now. Seems at least possible Silver could trade up over the next few years.

    This company could be dead money for a year and could easily get cut in half. But could also trade up to 4.5-5 if mining stocks catch fire. It is a real company which distinguishes itself from almost all penny stocks and especially junior miners.. It will probably take a while for things to play out.

  18. #3136

    Quote Originally Posted by Krugminator2 View Post
    It is funny there no gold threads right now when it actually makes sense to be a gold bull. There were all sorts of them in 2013 during euphoria. A couple of interesting factoids.

    Here is the average return of gold miners when you have selloffs like this.



    And the first time big speculators have been net short gold futures since 2002 which preceded a like 1000% runup in gold.




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  20. #3137
    Bonds are screaming recession.

    The only question is whether they get it and then the Fed prints; or the Fed prints and it's avoided.

    Either way, the Fed's printing, which is why gold and silver are shooting through the roof.
    "Democracy is the theory that the common people know what they want, and deserve to get it good and hard."

    -H. L. Mencken

  21. #3138
    Quote Originally Posted by devil21 View Post
    My tiny position on ALO is getting killed and only because their quarterly earnings weren't to "Wall St Expectations". Still profitable, still extracting metals but share price knocked into the dirt and will probably be delisted soon. These markets are so messed up.

    On the "bright side", the indexes will absolutely start tanking before the end of August. We won't have to wait too much longer for the illusion to finally start to crumble.
    Are we "tanking" yet?
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    The quality seems to have dropped significantly since I came here, I guess you get what you pay for.
    "There is always a tweet. That has become accepted fact in the Trump presidency: For every pronouncement the President makes, there is at least one tweet from his past that directly contradicts his current view." -CNN

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  22. #3139
    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    Are we "tanking" yet?
    Nope, just treading water via tweets and Kudlow interviews (aka PPT and headline reading algos manipulation). Dollar purchasing power is tanking, instead. I thought the -800 day could be the start but when the PPT and the algos are in full control during a major paradigm shift, predictions are pointless. The FRN dollar itself is the biggest illusion...
    Last edited by devil21; 08-20-2019 at 11:07 AM.
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  23. #3140
    Quote Originally Posted by devil21 View Post
    Nope, just treading water via tweets and Kudlow interviews (aka PPT and headline reading algos manipulation). Dollar purchasing power is tanking, instead. I thought the -800 day could be the start but when the PPT and the algos are in full control during a major paradigm shift, predictions are pointless. The FRN dollar itself is the biggest illusion...
    What is the current inflation rate? How much has dollar purchasing power tanked?
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    The quality seems to have dropped significantly since I came here, I guess you get what you pay for.
    "There is always a tweet. That has become accepted fact in the Trump presidency: For every pronouncement the President makes, there is at least one tweet from his past that directly contradicts his current view." -CNN

    I am Zippy and I approve of this post. But you don't have to.

  24. #3141
    The fake news love to make phoney predictions by cherry picking statistics and causing panic and profiting off peoples fear, the marketplace colludes to rig economic time bombs and do insider trading to make sure they profit off artificial downturns and everyone else loses. They do this because they can get bailed out and people don't remember that they do the same thing to us every 10 years. The only way its going to stop is if we demand that they quit their bull$#@! and say we will put all of them in jail and have them suicided if they try to rob the United States piggy bank again.

  25. #3142
    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    What is the current inflation rate? How much has dollar purchasing power tanked?
    Who cares what some officialdom "rate" is? When a box of Enjoy Life cookies costs 4.29 and has 14 tiny cookies inside the box that's twice as big as it needs to be, who needs "rates" to determine anything? The evidence is right there in the open for anyone paying attention to observe.
    "Let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul

    The entire internet is the domain of paid shills and bots. If you don't know this by now....

    Israel, under control of the Crown and, ultimately, the Vatican, own the USA. If you don't know this by now....

    Talk to people about liberty. You won't find it on websites, you won't find it in politicians.

    Visiting the Outer Banks of NC?
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  26. #3143
    Quote Originally Posted by devil21 View Post
    Who cares what some officialdom "rate" is? When a box of Enjoy Life cookies costs 4.29 and has 14 tiny cookies inside the box that's twice as big as it needs to be, who needs "rates" to determine anything? The evidence is right there in the open for anyone paying attention to observe.
    Why are you buying things for the retail price? The local grocery stores around my house had chips ahoy for a dollar last week the normal sized box not a small box. I was just at the store and they had a box a freshmade cookies 12 huge cookies for 2.99 marked down in the bakery section. Stores always have ridiculous retail pricing, 18 eggs for 1.19 at walmart or 2.99 at the grocery store when they are not on sale.

  27. #3144
    Quote Originally Posted by devil21 View Post
    Who cares what some officialdom "rate" is? When a box of Enjoy Life cookies costs 4.29 and has 14 tiny cookies inside the box that's twice as big as it needs to be, who needs "rates" to determine anything? The evidence is right there in the open for anyone paying attention to observe.
    Curious how you determined that the dollar's purchasing power is collapsing. How are you measuring that?
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    The quality seems to have dropped significantly since I came here, I guess you get what you pay for.
    "There is always a tweet. That has become accepted fact in the Trump presidency: For every pronouncement the President makes, there is at least one tweet from his past that directly contradicts his current view." -CNN

    I am Zippy and I approve of this post. But you don't have to.



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  29. #3145
    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    Curious how you determined that the dollar's purchasing power is collapsing. How are you measuring that?
    Based on what he wrote I think he is measuring it by dollars to donuts.

  30. #3146
    Quote Originally Posted by nikcers View Post
    Based on what he wrote I think he is measuring it by dollars to donuts.
    He is always promising us that the collapse is due to start at any moment.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    The quality seems to have dropped significantly since I came here, I guess you get what you pay for.
    "There is always a tweet. That has become accepted fact in the Trump presidency: For every pronouncement the President makes, there is at least one tweet from his past that directly contradicts his current view." -CNN

    I am Zippy and I approve of this post. But you don't have to.

  31. #3147
    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    He is always promising us that the collapse is due to start at any moment.
    Its really just gamblers fallacy. If you can predict human action than I guess you can predict recessions and depressions. I think that it falls under the whole pretense of knowledge but the free hand of the market is always there and can influence things a lot so its not always predictable. Just things like technological advances or even advances in space mining could delay or outright prevent any sort of a down turn. Thats not to say that its not possible for a panic to influence the market into crashing but thats all human action and human action isn't always able to be manipulated or predicted.

  32. #3148
    Quote Originally Posted by nikcers View Post
    Why are you buying things for the retail price? The local grocery stores around my house had chips ahoy for a dollar last week the normal sized box not a small box. I was just at the store and they had a box a freshmade cookies 12 huge cookies for 2.99 marked down in the bakery section. Stores always have ridiculous retail pricing, 18 eggs for 1.19 at walmart or 2.99 at the grocery store when they are not on sale.
    You're basically comparing food-like-substances (Chips Ahoy) to actual food (Enjoy Life).
    "Let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul

    The entire internet is the domain of paid shills and bots. If you don't know this by now....

    Israel, under control of the Crown and, ultimately, the Vatican, own the USA. If you don't know this by now....

    Talk to people about liberty. You won't find it on websites, you won't find it in politicians.

    Visiting the Outer Banks of NC?
    Outer Banks NC Fishing Boat Rentals

  33. #3149
    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    Are we "tanking" yet?
    Actually, let's wait and see what the rest of the month holds, shall we?
    "Let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul

    The entire internet is the domain of paid shills and bots. If you don't know this by now....

    Israel, under control of the Crown and, ultimately, the Vatican, own the USA. If you don't know this by now....

    Talk to people about liberty. You won't find it on websites, you won't find it in politicians.

    Visiting the Outer Banks of NC?
    Outer Banks NC Fishing Boat Rentals

  34. #3150
    Gold broke through 1530 today .
    Do something Danke



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