The Holy Grail of Converting Pro-War Republicans to Ron Paul

[BarryDonegan]

i've been working on showing my stepdad the ron paul message and i stumbled across what i think is the single most effective thing to show someone who comes from that perspective.

first off, hes in his 40s and Reagan was the first republican he voted for, during the excitement era of the republican party and has voted for them ever since.

Reagan to him is no longer a human being and is now some sort of deific type figure, and i showed him the beginning part of the "a time for choosing" speech.

i didn't show him any of the ones that are packaged with ron paul slogans because they seem cherry picked and it doesn't have the same impact.

but the critical thing here is the MSM has connected Vietnam and Iraq irrevocably. The secret weapon here is when Ronald Reagan uses Vietnam as an example of the evils of a secret socialist plot to overtake the original intent of the founding fathers.

This critical moment clicks over in his head in the sense that it sounds IDENTICAL to Ron Paul's position on Iraq.

this speech sounds like a Ron Paul speech from a week ago.

im serious in that my stepdad looked dizzy the rest of the night after watching this video. it just lulls you into the golden reagan voice, talking about small government virtues, and just when you stop paying attention... BAM, 2 minutes in, an anti-vietnam statement that simply makes it click.

i really urge that a ron paul supporter show this to your sortof neoconned friends who idolize reagan, without the thomas jefferson quotes or ron paul stuff cut in. just seeing ron pauls message come out of reagan's mouth is more powerful to them. try it out if your at an empasse. im pretty sure this is the beginning part of his famous speech endorsing barry goldwater... the vietnam statement i think is a minute and a half in.


http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...88975023965161

Audio only:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AHoOfcFM33c

[hard@work]

That truly is one of the best libertarian speaches Reagan ever made. I'll start posting it in all my rebuttals against the neocons.

[BarryDonegan]

yeah, its almost better if you just posted it AS the reply.

haha. and didn't say anything else.

theyd be like "why is this guy posting a reagan video" then as they watch....

[0zzy]

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...arch&plindex=3

^video

[OptionsTrader]

Video:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...69922535499977

[richard1984]

Awesome.
This is a really great speech (and it sounds so contemporary!).
I'll put this to work right away!

Thank you!

[ClayTrainor]

wow richard man, great job finding this.

I intend to shut a few people up, that ive had arguments with and i think this video is the tool to do it.

i hate how alot of the neo-cons quote Reagan all the time yet, they go against almost everything he stood for.

Great Speech!!!

[richard1984]

wow richard man, great job finding this.

I didn't find it, bro. Barry did.

[ClayTrainor]

I didn't find it, bro. Barry did.

wow, im such a fool, hahaha


thanks barry

[USAF_Saylor]

wow richard man, great job finding this.
I intend to shut a few people up, that ive had arguments with and i think this video is the tool to do it.
i hate how alot of the neo-cons quote Reagan all the time yet, they go against almost everything he stood for.
Great Speech!!!

You got that right! That's why I was banned from http://www.patriotactionnetwork.com/

[HOLLYWOOD]

You got that right! That's why I was banned from http://www.patriotactionnetwork.com/

Patriot Action Network / ResistNet are complete co-opted/hi-jacked/Falsely fronted, so-called TEA PARTY sites. They have nothing to do with Freedoms, Liberties, and Rights. They're all for Global conquest and funded by the like of big establishment GOP Fascists; Sal Russo, Dick Army, & Andrew Breitart, NEOCON Express aka TP Express, Establishment Fascists laundering their money through these fronted individuals organizations and marketing firms like Dick Army's Freedom Works, PNAC (Project for the New American Century), GOP political marketing and consulting firm: Russo, Marsh, & Rogers and even funds from the Republican Jewish Congress. This phony Tea Party Sites dialog will always be; controlled, steered, and related censoring... you always can find prepared ringers to incite articles that are; racist, Pro US global wars & conquests, jingoism, fear/security, 110% support for Israel, and more money for THEIR agendas. They will always use all the typical government propaganda symbols to manipulate the unsuspecting, unknowing, and plain ignorant followers with THEIR SILENT PARTNERS/MONEY MASTERS versions of NEO Far-Right agenda.

Even Mark Meckler and his wife (organized Tax Day Protests) have stated that the NEOCON/ESTABLISHMENT DC orgs/etc, have stolen, bribed/bought off, and now control most of these Phony Tea Party Sites like Patriot Action Network / RESISTNET.

This needs to be exposed much more...

[BarryDonegan]

all us tennesseans look alike

[richard1984]

all us tennesseans look alike

real good lookin'. so perdy it'll blind ya.

[TooConservative]

all us tennesseans look alike

Yeah but the rest of us are too polite to discuss your gene pool in public.

[yoshimaroka]

Unbelievable.
GWB doubled the size of the department of education, yet in this video and later on, Reagan wanted to get rid of it.

[DrNoZone]

What a great speech! I just posted it to the Dr. No! Zone blog. Any chance someone has the video file of this? I'd like to add it to a DVD I'm working on.

[curiousobserver]

can you post to youtube please?...I think youtube has more following and recognition....

Thanks

[Shii]

can you post to youtube please?...I think youtube has more following and recognition....

Thanks

It's a bit too long to put on YouTube. People have put the audio up in 3 parts though.

Also, here's a stupid FOX News take on it http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-HIp0SC2Gso

[rooteroa]

What a brilliant speech.

[KEEF]

I just emailed the video to the great Sean Hannity and the Beckster.

We'll see what I get back since Reagan is Hannity's God and litmus test for all politicians.

[mavtek]

Greatness! Thank you, just emailed to all my meetup people!

[RJB]

innocently post this on http://forums.hannity.com/index.php and other neocon forums.

[Shellshock1918]

This is a really good video of that speech.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-s06YhQyv3w

Its edited it up to sell it to pro-bush republicans.

[BarryDonegan]

i don't like the edited one because they edited out the vietnam comment, thats the epicenter of the whole thing when comparing it now to iraq.

[BLS]

Man, this is EXCELLENT STUFF!!!

[JosephTheLibertarian]

bump for usefulness

[EvoPro]

excellent speech. I've heard the "only an up and a down" part already. But the whole thing makes it that much better. I will be showing it to my dad who loved reagan.

[1000-points-of-fright]

Most of it is good, but watch out for the last 5 minutes. Neocons will use that as proof that the war on terror is righteous.

[kylebrotherton]

Most of it is good, but watch out for the last 5 minutes. Neocons will use that as proof that the war on terror is righteous.

"Admittedly there is a risk in any course we follow other than this, but every lesson in history tells us that the greater risk lies in appeasement, and this is the specter our well-meaning liberal friends refuse to face--that their policy of accommodation is appeasement, and it gives no choice between peace and war, only between fight and surrender. If we continue to accommodate, continue to back and retreat, eventually we have to face the final demand--the ultimatum. And what then? When Nikita Khrushchev has told his people he knows what our answer will be? He has told them that we are retreating under the pressure of the Cold War, and someday when the time comes to deliver the ultimatum, our surrender will be voluntary because by that time we will have weakened from within spiritually, morally, and economically. He believes this because from our side he has heard voices pleading for "peace at any price" or "better Red than dead," or as one commentator put it, he would rather "live on his knees than die on his feet." And therein lies the road to war, because those voices don't speak for the rest of us. You and I know and do not believe that life is so dear and peace so sweet as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery."

[shadowhooch]

Most of it is good, but watch out for the last 5 minutes. Neocons will use that as proof that the war on terror is righteous.

Agreed. I think the parts about govt intervention and obeying the constitution fit Ron Paul to a tee.

But the parts about "peace through strength" and we must fight out of "duty" and not appease our enemies may reinforce the neocon position. I'm not sure Ronald Reagan would be on Ron Paul's side of the war. Let me know if you interpreted it differently.

The part about Vietnam at 2:00 is kind of vague. I'm not sure what his point was. Any thoughts? I thought he was saying that we need to unite as a country behind our troops instead of letting others die for us while others cry for peace. I don't know. Please provide thoughts.....