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    Ohio State Sovereignty - Passes Senate! - 19-12 vote

    Ohio Senate passes SCR-13!

    Ohio Senate Affirms State Sovereignty


    Tenth Amendment Center
    29 September 2009


    By a vote of 19-12 today, the Ohio State Senate passed Senate Concurrent Resolution 13 (SCR13). (h/t Ohio Free State )

    The resolution claims “sovereignty over certain powers pursuant to the Tenth Amendment to the Constitution of the United States of America, to notify Congress to limit and end certain mandates, and to insist that federal legislation contravening the Tenth Amendment be prohibited or repealed.”

    If passed by the House of Representatives, Ohio will become the 8th state to have passed such a resolution in 2009. Other states that have reaffirmed their sovereignty are Alaska, Idaho, North Dakota, South Dakota, Oklahoma, Louisiana, and Tennessee.

    While sovereignty resolutions do not carry the force of law behind them, supporters say that they are a long-overdue first step in moving the country towards constitutional government.

    Charles Key, state representative from Oklahoma and author of that state’s sovereignty resolution, compared these resolutions to a cease and desist notice a landlord gives a non-paying tenant.

    “If you’ve got a tenant that’s not paying rent, you don’t just show up one day with an empty truck,” said Key in a recent interview with the Tenth Amendment Center. “First, you serve notice. That’s how we see these resolutions, as a notice to the federal government. And there defintely will be follow up.”

    The follow up that Rep. Key is referring to has been popping up all over the country. Legislation that calls upon the Jeffersonian principle of “nullification” has already been advancing a number of causes, and some success has been gained, too.

    A state-level rebellion to the Bush-era Real ID act has rendered the law virtually null and void. Thirteen states have passed various marijuana laws in direct contravention to federal laws. Two states have passed laws nullifying some federal gun regulations.

    Groups in multiple states are pushing their governments to withdraw their state’s guard troops from Iraq and elsewhere. And people in up to 10 states may have the opportunity to vote on state constitutional amendments effectively banning national health care.

    The long-term success of all these efforts remain to be seen, especially with a Federal Judiciary which has not often been too friendly to the Constitutional intent of the Founders and Ratifiers.

    But, many supporters point to the growing success on issues like Real ID and Medical Marijuana as examples which prove that with enough state-level resistance, the federal government has no option but to back off, with or without judicial approval.


    SOURCE:
    http://www.tenthamendmentcenter.com/...e-sovereignty/



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    Great! Is this separate from the Constitutional Convention thing that was going crazy a couple of months ago?
    "You ain't fooling nobody.........with the lights out!"

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    Lightbulb

    Quote Originally Posted by FrankRep View Post
    While sovereignty resolutions do not carry the force of law behind them
    Why not?

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    Quote Originally Posted by FrankRep View Post
    Groups in multiple states are pushing their governments to withdraw their state’s guard troops from Iraq and elsewhere.
    When soldiers start obeying orders from their governors over orders from the President, I'll start getting excited about these state soverignty campaigns.

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    Woo hoo Buckeyes!
    The more laws and order are made prominent,
    The more thieves and robbers there will be.
    ~Lao-tzu

    "Do not believe anything because it is said by an authority, or if it is said to come from angels, or from Gods, or from an inspired source. Believe it only if you have explored it in your own heart and mind and body and found it to be true."~ Buddha

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    SWEET. There's a LOT of gun owners and hunters in Ohio.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yokna7 View Post
    Great! Is this separate from the Constitutional Convention thing that was going crazy a couple of months ago?
    This is separate. Ohio State Sovereignty is about the 10th amendment under the Constitution.
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    Nice! But Ohio's a red state, yes?



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    Ugh...

    Ohio...

    Nothing good can happen there. Its not possible. Its like that movie Resident Evil because of the people.

    And I mean that in all seriousness.
    I GOT MY BUSINESS MANAGEMENT SCIENCE DEGREE IN MY HANDS AND RAN!!!!!!! THEY'RE NEVER GETTING IT BACK!!!!!!!!!


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    Quote Originally Posted by justinc.1089 View Post
    Nothing good can happen there. Its not possible. Its like that movie Resident Evil because of the people.

    And I mean that in all seriousness.
    You can thank all the Ron Paul grassroots here in Ohio. We pushed HARD to get all this done. A special thanks goes out to the Ohio Freedom Alliance!!
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    Ohio State Sovereignty Rally with Judge Andrew Napalitano on August 1, 2009

    YouTube - Ohio State Sovereignty Rally with Judge Andrew Napalitano on August 1, 2009
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    Inspired by US Rep. Ron Paul of Texas, this site is dedicated to facilitating grassroots initiatives that aim to restore a sovereign limited constitutional Republic based on the rule of law, states' rights and individual rights. We seek to enshrine the original intent of our Founders to foster respect for private property, seek justice, provide opportunity, and to secure individual liberty for ourselves and our posterity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FrankRep View Post
    You can thank all the Ron Paul grassroots here in Ohio. We pushed HARD to get all this done. A special thanks goes out to the Ohio Freedom Alliance!!
    All you Ron Paul supporters in Ohio are brave, brave people. I must admit I am shocked there are people there smart enough to support Ron Paul because your tourists that leave and come to where I live are EXACTLY as intelligent as the zombies in resident evil, except they can talk. But of course I have only been around those tourists so they're the only ones I can talk about, so I'm not really talking about all the people in Ohio of course.

    I hope to meet you and/or other Ron Paul supporters from Ohio one day so that I will have the incredible experience of seeing that Ohio does have people just like everyone else, because your tourists don't make you all look very good lol.
    I GOT MY BUSINESS MANAGEMENT SCIENCE DEGREE IN MY HANDS AND RAN!!!!!!! THEY'RE NEVER GETTING IT BACK!!!!!!!!!


    "It is dissent from government policies that defines the true patriot and champion of liberty."

    - Ron Paul

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    Justin don't forget that Ohio is home to James Traficant. So, it's not all hopeless. Once the union members seriously wake up, Ohio will be pretty reliable.
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    Great job Ohio liberty fighters!

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    Quote Originally Posted by justinc.1089 View Post
    All you Ron Paul supporters in Ohio are brave, brave people. I must admit I am shocked there are people there smart enough to support Ron Paul because your tourists that leave and come to where I live are EXACTLY as intelligent as the zombies in resident evil, except they can talk. But of course I have only been around those tourists so they're the only ones I can talk about, so I'm not really talking about all the people in Ohio of course.

    I hope to meet you and/or other Ron Paul supporters from Ohio one day so that I will have the incredible experience of seeing that Ohio does have people just like everyone else, because your tourists don't make you all look very good lol.
    I've lived here my entire life and... you're not wrong. At all. I'm surrounded by illiterate zombies that are impossible to communicate with in plain English every day and it depresses the $#@! out of me. One man alone in a giant zoo. I thought I was imagining it, but in recent years I've come to realize there is something abnormally wrong with the people in this state. Fluoride in the water was all I could think of and I've stopped drinking it. When I try tell people out of state about all the $#@!ed up, incredibly stupid people I've been around my entire life, no one believes me. I'm amazed to see someone else confirm it. I've seen people say similar things on other forums.
    Last edited by Endgame; 09-29-2009 at 08:52 PM.



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