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  1. #181

    Question

    Quote Originally Posted by He Who Pawns View Post
    That's a lie, Collins. When you improved your behavior and stopped attention whoring, I treated you with respect and even gave some of your threads 5 stars. I can point to a long period here when you refrained from self-promotion and bizarre behavior, during which time I made ZERO negative posts about you. Look it up.

    Again, you seem to be failing to make a connection between your own behavior and the way you are treated here. Behavior has consequences, Matt.
    Sorry, how exactly did you have any authority as the person who decides which behavior is "socially acceptable" or not?!

    Where do you get the power to be the official judge and speak authoritatively on the subject?
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  3. #182
    Quote Originally Posted by Mini-Me View Post
    I thought it was pretty damn good...
    Thank you.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mini-Me View Post
    I understand what rockandrollsouls is saying, and it's possible that Matt's stance may backfire in the long run...but deep down in my gut, I feel that the US needs some more of this kind of "shocking" behavior to break out of the "politics as usual" mode. Expressing personal revulsion in an "I will not break bread..." gesture is a great way to get yourself attacked for rocking the boat, but at the same time it's a great way to set yourself apart from every other backstabbing, pandering, two-faced politician. There's something that deeply resonates with me about a politician making such a bold, no-nonsense statement about where he stands...and I think it taps into a lot of the feelings of anger and betrayal that a lot of Americans are feeling.

    While it's easy to scold Matt and second-guess him for this, and it's pretty obvious that such an action was bound to stir up a bit of a $#@!storm, I'm kind of hoping incidents like this will start to shake things up for good and change the two-faced character of American politics...and if we're lucky, maybe this kind of thing will actually catch on and draw support from the "no-nonsense, straight-talking" crowd in America.
    Exactly. And it's a risk I'm willing to take. I am glad you realize this.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mini-Me View Post
    Apparently Matt has a history of grandstanding and acting like an ass,
    Only in the opinion of a minor few.
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  4. #183
    Quote Originally Posted by Matt Collins View Post
    Sorry, how exactly did you have any authority as the person who decides which behavior is "socially acceptable" or not?!

    Where do you get the power to be the official judge and speak authoritatively on the subject?
    It's not just me, Collins. Every time you attention whore, grandstand, and try to make yourself the center of attention, by starting threads titled "I just spoke to Kokesh" or whatever, or pulling some bizarre stunt like this handhsake nonsense, or when you attacked Paul family member Jesse Benton out of the blue, a large number of members here, including moderators, have slammed you and humiliated you publicly as a consequence of your bizarre behavior.

    You need to learn to make the connection between your behavior and the reaction online. What really alarms me is that someone with no social sense whatsoever, who keeps managing to land himself in hot water everyone couple of months here, would ever be trusted with any position of responsibility, like updating Rand's facebook page or whatever.

    I am predicting right here and right now that Matt Collins will do something to embarrass Rand and possibly damage his campaign before all is said and done.

    You can take that to the bank.

  5. #184

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    Quote Originally Posted by He Who Pawns View Post
    It's not just me, Collins. Every time you attention whore, grandstand, and try to make yourself the center of attention, by starting threads titled "I just spoke to Kokesh" or whatever, or pulling some bizarre stunt like this handhsake nonsense, or when you attacked Paul family member Jesse Benton out of the blue, a large number of members here, including moderators, have slammed you and humiliated you publicly as a consequence of your bizarre behavior.
    Again, completely untrue and conjecture.


    I make it a point to get the word out to as many people as possible. It's not my fault you are unable to distinguish between that and "grandstanding"

    Quote Originally Posted by He Who Pawns View Post
    You need to learn to make the connection between your behavior and the reaction online.
    Really? I've had a 4:1 positive response on this issue.

    Quote Originally Posted by He Who Pawns View Post
    What really alarms me is that someone with no social sense whatsoever,
    Riiiight.... that's how I got to be the de facto leader of the Nashville / TN RP'08 campaign. That's how I was able to win us 6 seats on the Nashville GOP. That's how I was able to become the Nashville CFL Coordinator, and the Vice Chair of the TN-RLC.

    If I have "no social sense whatsoever" then how exactly was I able to be as successful as we currently have been?

    Quote Originally Posted by He Who Pawns View Post
    who keeps managing to land himself in hot water everyone couple of months here,
    I have never been in "hot water" here.. you however have been banned at least once. And if you keep attacking me it'll probably

    Quote Originally Posted by He Who Pawns View Post
    I am predicting right here and right now that Matt Collins will do something to embarrass Rand and possibly damage his campaign before all is said and done.
    HA. It's all dependent upon one's perspective.


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  7. #185
    Do you have anything better to do than grandstand and attention whore?

    Why don't you stop talking about yourself, stop trying to put yourself at the center of attention, and start talking about liberty. If you do that, the "attacks" will cease instantly.

  8. #186

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    Quote Originally Posted by He Who Pawns View Post
    Do you have anything better to do than grandstand and attention whore?
    I am not grandstanding nor am I "attention whoring"
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  9. #187
    Matt, try this: Go for one month without making any posts that seek to aggrandize yourself, then wait and see if all the "hate" will stop. I bet you a million dollars that it will.

  10. #188
    I think that the posters in this thread who are critiquing the choices made by other activists who now hold elected positions in the GOP, something Ron Paul hopes to see happen, rather than armchair politicking from the Central Authority of your computer in God knows where, should focus more time and attention on activism and the spread of liberty in your own City and State.

    For those who are criticizing the work for liberty we are doing on the ground in Nashville should probably focus the criticism on other towns where the ExCom does not contain 6 members of C4L.

    Criticism does challenge us all and leads to improvements, thus is the nature of the grass-roots, but for so much critique to come to Nashville just because we are getting trashed by liberal newspapers... how many hit pieces and slams can we find of Dr. Paul?

    in fact, i would almost guarantee, that when you become the subject of a local newspaper article or blog, it is, rather than an indicator of how poorly you are doing, actually an indicator of how much of a threat you are to the entrenched establishment, which, in Nashville, TN, is a chamber of commerce industrial complex.

    They are scared of an actual anti corporate welfare GOP. What's worse is the small l libertarian swing is a great potential fit for the music industry identity of the city.

    The C4L members active in the GOP here are actually in very good standing with a lot of the older Goldwater guys who actually often take a harder line against the RINOs. There is a reason 6 members got elected... and it took a lot of votes from the Goldwater old-schoolers to enable. They do the same things... it's how Tennessee works. We have a legislature that passed the 10th amendment bill. We have nightlife events for libertarian and free market ideas where elected officials and candidates often show up to talk ideas. Sometimes legislative action comes from things learned at these events Tennessee is a lot like Texas when it comes to politics. It's gloves off, and people aren't that sensitive.

    We may have a little disagreement during primary processes(we are in one for Governor in TN right now), but ultimately, in Nashville, the GOP has a full house of Democrats in our city and Federal Government. To that aim our backs are against the wall together, and we will have no problem uniting with them in OPPOSITION to the fascist statism that occurs here. There may be some primary season grandstanding to help define how strong our principles will be, but, ultimately, we will be united in strong opposition against the Obama Administration, and, with proper education, the chamber of commerce industrial complex which robs from the poor and middle class to give monopolies and corporate welfare to the rich.

    There are different personalities in the C4L liberty movement in Nashville, some are more focused on tough love, others are more about emotionally communicating in a way that builds idea bridges. Both are equally necessary, and are very well represented here. We have some very notable converts, some of which might have even had some former political actions which were criticized on this very forums, who now are sending emails to other conservative leaders warning of things we have been talking about a long time.

    It takes all kinds... whether its Patrick Henry's battle-cry or Benjamin Franklin's clever negotiations, there are different roles to bringing the visions of liberty into codified Rule of Law.
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  11. #189
    Quote Originally Posted by BarryDonegan View Post
    I think that the posters in this thread who are critiquing the choices made by other activists who now hold elected positions in the GOP, something Ron Paul hopes to see happen, rather than armchair politicking from the Central Authority of your computer in God knows where, should focus more time and attention on activism and the spread of liberty in your own City and State.

    For those who are criticizing the work for liberty we are doing on the ground in Nashville should probably focus the criticism on other towns where the ExCom does not contain 6 members of C4L.

    Criticism does challenge us all and leads to improvements, thus is the nature of the grass-roots, but for so much critique to come to Nashville just because we are getting trashed by liberal newspapers... how many hit pieces and slams can we find of Dr. Paul?

    in fact, i would almost guarantee, that when you become the subject of a local newspaper article or blog, it is, rather than an indicator of how poorly you are doing, actually an indicator of how much of a threat you are to the entrenched establishment, which, in Nashville, TN, is a chamber of commerce industrial complex.

    They are scared of an actual anti corporate welfare GOP. What's worse is the small l libertarian swing is a great potential fit for the music industry identity of the city.

    The C4L members active in the GOP here are actually in very good standing with a lot of the older Goldwater guys who actually often take a harder line against the RINOs. There is a reason 6 members got elected... and it took a lot of votes from the Goldwater old-schoolers to enable. They do the same things... it's how Tennessee works. We have a legislature that passed the 10th amendment bill. We have nightlife events for libertarian and free market ideas where elected officials and candidates often show up to talk ideas. Sometimes legislative action comes from things learned at these events Tennessee is a lot like Texas when it comes to politics. It's gloves off, and people aren't that sensitive.

    We may have a little disagreement during primary processes(we are in one for Governor in TN right now), but ultimately, in Nashville, the GOP has a full house of Democrats in our city and Federal Government. To that aim our backs are against the wall together, and we will have no problem uniting with them in OPPOSITION to the fascist statism that occurs here. There may be some primary season grandstanding to help define how strong our principles will be, but, ultimately, we will be united in strong opposition against the Obama Administration, and, with proper education, the chamber of commerce industrial complex which robs from the poor and middle class to give monopolies and corporate welfare to the rich.

    There are different personalities in the C4L liberty movement in Nashville, some are more focused on tough love, others are more about emotionally communicating in a way that builds idea bridges. Both are equally necessary, and are very well represented here. We have some very notable converts, some of which might have even had some former political actions which were criticized on this very forums, who now are sending emails to other conservative leaders warning of things we have been talking about a long time.

    It takes all kinds... whether its Patrick Henry's battle-cry or Benjamin Franklin's clever negotiations, there are different roles to bringing the visions of liberty into codified Rule of Law.

    Couldn't agree more with this sentiment. I didn't feel that it was necessary for Matt not to shake the guys hand, but ya know what? If you don't like it, then don't do it yourself, but get out there and do SOMETHING. At least Matt is out there fighting the good fight.

  12. #190

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    Quote Originally Posted by BarryDonegan View Post
    I think that the posters in this thread who are critiquing the choices made by other activists who now hold elected positions in the GOP, something Ron Paul hopes to see happen, rather than armchair politicking from the Central Authority of your computer in God knows where, should focus more time and attention on activism and the spread of liberty in your own City and State.

    For those who are criticizing the work for liberty we are doing on the ground in Nashville should probably focus the criticism on other towns where the ExCom does not contain 6 members of C4L.
    Yeah basically that guy doesn't care, he is just has some sort of vendetta against me and attacks me at every opportunity.
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  13. #191
    Matt, how do you explain that I stopped "attacking" you and treated you with due respect when you stop your self-aggrandizing behavior recently? Do you think this was a coincidence?

  14. #192
    Stop it, Pawns.

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  16. #193
    I think it'd be a hoot to see both of them banned, just to shut them both up. If only one is banned, no matter which, the other will just gloat and make themselves more of a pain in the ass.

    Banhammer x 2, please.
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  17. #194
    And a bump

    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    (shameless cross post)

    From the article:



    If you assimilate into the Borg, if you play nice, if you make sure you say and do and write and act in no way outside the "polite norms", you too will become "mainstream" and be able to partake in all the all benefits that accrue to having that label.

    All that it requires is to jettison your soul, your heart and your principles.

    *yawn*

    Heard this story before, the only reason it's being written is because the hacks are nervous.

    Good for Matt.

  18. #195
    Ahhh...yessss....back when Matt still had some credibility around here.
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  19. #196
    Quote Originally Posted by torchbearer View Post
    Yes, Stand tall matt!
    Yeah, but as I remember from the Trey Grayson v. Rand GOP Senate primary in Kentucky . . .
    I think Matt may "stand" more wide than "tall" . . . but . . . nevermind.

    Best of luck.

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  21. #198
    Can we lock this? The necros lately are becoming rampant.
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  22. #199
    Quote Originally Posted by Feelgood View Post
    Can we lock this? The necros lately are becoming rampant.
    Ask Bobbyw24. He started this thread

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