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    God Approves Of Homosexual Behavior.

    If you're a religious zealot how do you explain the Gay Penguins? Isn't it the belief of religious types that their god created everything including the planet? Explain this behavior, I can't wait to see what stupidity comes from this.
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    Oh God.... here we go....
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    Appomattox Courthouse; no sir, not by me.
    Had I foreseen these results of subjugation,
    I would have preferred to die at Appomattox
    with my brave men, my sword in my right hand." - Robert E. Lee to Governor Fletcher S. Stockdale (D-Texas), 1870


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    Quote Originally Posted by jdmyprez_deo_vindice View Post
    Oh God.... here we go....
    +1

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    They're not gay. That's how penguins say hello. Nothing more than a handshake I tell ya.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bman View Post
    They're not gay. That's how penguins say hello. Nothing more than a handshake I tell ya.
    SO far this is the best post.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Objectivist View Post
    SO far this is the best post.
    I say hello like that all the time. You telling me I'm gay?

    Ok. I was just trying to bring some humor to the page after you posted a video like that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bman View Post
    I say hello like that all the time. You telling me I'm gay?

    Ok. I was just trying to bring some humor to the page after you posted a video like that.
    I brought to the forum in jest but it would be interesting to see how religious homophobes explain it away.



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    If a male dog humps your leg what do you call it? I know it's called Beastiality when humans get it on with critters, but what is it from the dogs perspective? Humanality?

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    My, how creative we are in our choice of discussion topics this morning.
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    I think Dick coming out in support for Gay marriage has sent the Conservatives into shock.

    Heck, with such a gay population at the top of the church estabishment it won't be long before Christening will take on a whole new meaning.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Objectivist View Post
    I brought to the forum in jest but it would be interesting to see how religious homophobes explain it away.
    I'd "explain it away" like this; that homosexual tendencies may indeed be natural, just as sticking your man meat in any willing or even unwilling female may also be a natural "animal" tendency.

    Much of God's commands are for us to put aside the natural man and show self control. In the Playboy interview, Ayn Rand expresses similar disgust for hedonists and those unable or unwilling to control their sexual urges, Objectivist.

    And I have always maintained that homosexuality (the acted upon kind, not the tendency) is I believe a sin ON PAR with fornication. That's not me "scanning God" as TW would say, that is my personal feeling about it.

    I would say that all commandments also are to bring those that follow them happiness thru self mastery. Wanting to kill someone who does us wrong, wanting to take things that don't belong to us, covetting, etc etc are ALL natural tendencies that most of us learn to control as we grow up. And if you look to the animal world for what God approves of, there are plenty of examples of every religious commandment being broken. So please, feel free to make a thread that God approves of theft, God approves of murder, God approves of adultery. I guess bearing false witness the animals got skipped on, but I am guessing that's just because they don't bear witness, false or otherwise.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Original_Intent View Post

    And I have always maintained that homosexuality (the acted upon kind, not the tendency) is I believe a sin ON PAR with fornication. That's not me "scanning God" as TW would say, that is my personal feeling about it.
    The moral standards in the Bible are for a different culture and time. The "fornication" that Paul was so worried about was an act of worship with Pagan temple prostitutes.

    Human sexuality and most other human traits naturally fall on what is called a "bell curve". There are extremes but the bulk of the population falls somewhere in the middle.

    As applied to sexuality, there is a relatively small percentage on either end that is neurologically programmed to be totally straight or totally gay. The majority of the population falls somewhere in between. Social conditioning and the necessity for reproduction of the species represses homosexual tendencies in the majority of the population.

    Over population has diminished social emphasis on reproduction and that is why you are seeing more "bi" experimentation in young people.

    Another environmental factor that comes into play is abuse. I've talked to a fair number of women who were abused as children. They often become prostitutes who have "professional" relationships with men and intimate relationships with women, or they may simply reject men altogether and become lesbian.

    I don't believe God ever disapproves of a loving relationship between two consenting adults. If for some reason those adults can only find that in a same-sex relationship, God bless them.

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    They're in prison. What do guys do in prison? They establish a heirarchy and turn into jerks. Give 'em a break.

    And point that camera somewhere else.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PaulaGem View Post
    I don't believe God ever disapproves of a loving relationship between two consenting adults. If for some reason those adults can only find that in a same-sex relationship, God bless them.
    hear hear

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    Quote Originally Posted by Objectivist View Post
    If a male dog humps your leg what do you call it? I know it's called Beastiality when humans get it on with critters, but what is it from the dogs perspective? Humanality?
    Humanality? Ha! I gotta remember that.



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    Quote Originally Posted by PaulaGem View Post
    The moral standards in the Bible are for a different culture and time. The "fornication" that Paul was so worried about was an act of worship with Pagan temple prostitutes.
    Your point being? I mean there are tribes in Africa that practice cannibalism, so that's OK? Is this the best argument you have?

    Human sexuality and most other human traits naturally fall on what is called a "bell curve". There are extremes but the bulk of the population falls somewhere in the middle.
    I assume you are talking about hormonal tendencies, this doesn't address my post at all - I concede that it may be "natural" for a certain percentage of the population to have homosexual tendencies. The entire point of my post is it is my belief that God has asked us to strive for a higher standard for our own sake.

    As applied to sexuality, there is a relatively small percentage on either end that is neurologically programmed to be totally straight or totally gay. The majority of the population falls somewhere in between. Social conditioning and the necessity for reproduction of the species represses homosexual tendencies in the majority of the population.

    Over population has diminished social emphasis on reproduction and that is why you are seeing more "bi" experimentation in young people.
    Theory. Or we are seeing more bi experimentation due to educational institutions encouraging such experimentation and society, largely, either encouraging it or at the very least not discouraging it.

    Another environmental factor that comes into play is abuse. I've talked to a fair number of women who were abused as children. They often become prostitutes who have "professional" relationships with men and intimate relationships with women, or they may simply reject men altogether and become lesbian.

    I don't believe God ever disapproves of a loving relationship between two consenting adults. If for some reason those adults can only find that in a same-sex relationship, God bless them.
    It's clear we have incompatible beliefs about God. /shrug. The OP asked for a religious viewpoint that was consistent and explained how animals can be gay, but still say God does not condone, let alone "bless" (as you put it) homosexuality. I responded as best I could, and as far as I can tell you didn't really address a single thing I said other than to present an alternate view - which you are certainly free to do. But even though you quoted me I don't see that you addressed anything that I said.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Objectivist View Post
    If you're a religious zealot how do you explain the Gay Penguins? Isn't it the belief of religious types that their god created everything including the planet? Explain this behavior, I can't wait to see what stupidity comes from this.
    YouTube - Penguin Porn
    YouTube - The Gay Penguins of the Central Park Zoo
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    Quote Originally Posted by PaulaGem View Post
    The moral standards in the Bible are for a different culture and time. The "fornication" that Paul was so worried about was an act of worship with Pagan temple prostitutes.

    Human sexuality and most other human traits naturally fall on what is called a "bell curve". There are extremes but the bulk of the population falls somewhere in the middle.

    As applied to sexuality, there is a relatively small percentage on either end that is neurologically programmed to be totally straight or totally gay. The majority of the population falls somewhere in between. Social conditioning and the necessity for reproduction of the species represses homosexual tendencies in the majority of the population.

    Over population has diminished social emphasis on reproduction and that is why you are seeing more "bi" experimentation in young people.

    Another environmental factor that comes into play is abuse. I've talked to a fair number of women who were abused as children. They often become prostitutes who have "professional" relationships with men and intimate relationships with women, or they may simply reject men altogether and become lesbian.

    I don't believe God ever disapproves of a loving relationship between two consenting adults. If for some reason those adults can only find that in a same-sex relationship, God bless them.
    If you wish to believe these teachings than go on and may the Lord have mercy on you, but these are NOT Christian teachings.
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    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    They're in prison. What do guys do in prison? They establish a heirarchy and turn into jerks. Give 'em a break.

    And point that camera somewhere else.
    Maybe they are doing it for the cameras?
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    Quote Originally Posted by TodaysEpistleReading View Post
    If you wish to believe these teachings than go on and may the Lord have mercy on you, but these are NOT Christian teachings.
    The Fornication bit was something I learned at a Bible study over 20 years ago. The pastor gave all of the greek words, explained the history, the whole thing. I used to have a copy of his notes because the study he had put into this lesson impressed me and I asked for them. Unfortunately, they've gotten misplaced over the years. Yes, they are the teachings of an enlightened Christian Minister.

    The bell curve thing is from the science of psychology, a quick summary of some of my college studies. Perhaps you should study some of these things for yourself before you go bashing the well considered opinions of others.

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    Why Stop Where You Started?

    Gay penguins are supposed to prove that it is okay for humans to be gay? If that is how you reason, let me help you out. Lions kill other animals, like buffalo, to eat them:

    YouTube - Lions Hunt Buffalo

    That proves that it is okay for humans of one race to kill and eat humans of another race.

    Also, many times when a doe has a fawn that cannot walk immediately after its born, the doe will leave it behind in the wild. I guess that makes it okay for humans to leave their handicapped children in the street if they want to.

    Monkeys sometimes fling their excrement at people in the zoo. I guess that makes it okay for humans to throw their poo at others during a baseball game.

    Let's just get all of our acceptable behaviors from the animals because, you know, that is a step forward in our evolutionary lifespan.
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    This doesn't show that God approves of homosexual behavior. It might show that some people are born with homosexual inclinations, although it is obviously a choice whether they choose to act on these feelings. This is consistent with what I was taught in Catholic school. You don't choose to be gay, but you choose to act gay.

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    The Fornication bit was something I learned at a Bible study over 20 years ago. The pastor gave all of the greek words, explained the history, the whole thing. I used to have a copy of his notes because the study he had put into this lesson impressed me and I asked for them. Unfortunately, they've gotten misplaced over the years. Yes, they are the teachings of an enlightened Christian Minister.

    The bell curve thing is from the science of psychology, a quick summary of some of my college studies. Perhaps you should study some of these things for yourself before you go bashing the well considered opinions of others.

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    I appreciate your reference being an 'enlightened Christian minister' and that the Greek meaning was explained to you in a bible study 20 years ago. However, there is 2000 years of Christian teaching which contradicts your assertions about the Christian view of homosexuality. Your opinion is trumped by the Church.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MRoCkEd View Post
    This doesn't show that God approves of homosexual behavior. It might show that some people are born with homosexual inclinations, although it is obviously a choice whether they choose to act on these feelings.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Original_Intent View Post
    I assume you are talking about hormonal tendencies, this doesn't address my post at all - I concede that it may be "natural" for a certain percentage of the population to have homosexual tendencies. The entire point of my post is it is my belief that God has asked us to strive for a higher standard for our own sake..
    I believe we should accept ourselves as God made us and the "higher standard" we strive for is a Spiritual one, to Love others and Love ourselves. The physical issues are just a distraction.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PaulaGem View Post
    I believe we should accept ourselves as God made us and the "higher standard" we strive for is a Spiritual one, to Love others and Love ourselves. The physical issues are just a distraction.
    This is similar to the Gnostic heresy, one of the first heresies that the Church had to endure in the early years of the 1st and 2nd centuries. It led to sexual immorality and promiscuity and was condemned.

    Please study the early Church and the various heresies which it confronted so you can better understand.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PaulaGem View Post
    I believe we should accept ourselves as God made us and the "higher standard" we strive for is a Spiritual one, to Love others and Love ourselves. The physical issues are just a distraction.
    Some people are attracted to children. It's still unacceptable (from a Christian or secular standpoint) to have sexual relations with them. I know this isn't the same as acts between consenting adults, which certainly should be legal. But just because something feels natural doesn't mean it is appropriate or moral.

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    This is just an elaborate plan by the penguins to trick the zoo into giving them some bitches.

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    Quote Originally Posted by coyote_sprit View Post
    This is just an elaborate plan by the penguins to trick the zoo into giving them some bitches.
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