"Single Payer Healthcare" I keep hearing this mentioned as a good solution?

[Reason]

"Single Payer Healthcare"

I keep hearing this mentioned as a good solution?

I don't know too much about it, anyone have thoughts or good resources?

[Minarchy4Sale]

Um... sarcastic much?

[TonySutton]

it is code for Universal Healthcare

all bad

[priest_of_syrinx]

Single payer = one country pays for one healthcare system

Is that the literal meaning of it?

[theoakman]

Single payer health care is code for lets create a multi trillion dollar piggy bank to pay for everyone's health care. It's also code for everyone to concoct a scheme to become rich at the expense of that trillion dollar piggy bank. If you have a single payer system, you can bet that you will be going through $20k in tests to see why your back hurts.

[FSP-Rebel]

Single payer health insurance is dangerous to those who are likely to have illnesses. Since the government would be in charge, you can bet that one's insurance coverage would be a political maneuver. If someone develops a condition that requires significant care, the gov would decide if that person is worthwhile to society to care for. Next, if you were in need of an artificial limb for some reason, do you think the gov would expend the money for the best prosthetic or would they half-ass it or worse? How long would someone have to wait under this rationed care model to get the treatment they need? Since doctors would get paid by the number of patients they see, how could you ever get reliable personable care? Lastly, this would destroy the competition that is required to invent state-of-the-art treatments for serious diseases and such. Thus, we get to the concept of treatment instead of cures. More so, emergency rooms would look like Grand Central Station as people with chronic disease would be put behind those with sniffles and hang-nails, since each patient is worth the same amount of money that the government is prepared to equally pay for all. If you were the single payer of health insurance, would you take the tough scenarios first or shuffle through the easy ones?

If we think health care costs are through the roof now, just wait til the gov man's the entire ship. Don't forget about women having babies as this would take precedent over saving other lives since the state needs a steady supply of new tax slaves to keep the system going, and those who take more than their fair share of coverage will be put on a nice long waiting list.

[Minarchy4Sale]

Civil... did you really not know what it means? I thought you were just fucking with us.

[jkm1864]

Oh and the best part about it is I'll be taxed for healthcare and then I'll have to continue paying for insurance because I'll have to see a private doctor. Boy I love this scenario because our healthcare is going to go to crap and then We will have to pay extra if We wanted to be treated like a person instead of a number.

[CUnknown]

I'd like to point out that single-payer is far more efficient than the system we have now. It removes the corporate HMO bureaucrat middlemen. It also allows for much more preventive care, which also lowers costs in the long-run.

Every country who has tried a system like this ends up with a healthier population than we have and spends far less money on healthcare per capita than we do.

Perhaps a free-market solution would be even better than single-payer, who knows, but the point is that single-payer would be a huge improvement over what we have now, which is a mix of government intervention and corporate greed, the worst of both worlds.

[gls]

I'd like to point out that single-payer is far more efficient than the system we have now. It removes the corporate HMO bureaucrat middlemen. It also allows for much more preventive care, which also lowers costs in the long-run.

Every country who has tried a system like this ends up with a healthier population than we have and spends far less money on healthcare per capita than we do.

Perhaps a free-market solution would be even better than single-payer, who knows, but the point is that single-payer would be a huge improvement over what we have now, which is a mix of government intervention and corporate greed, the worst of both worlds.

More government is never the solution.