Very affordable.
http://www.hydraid.org/
If it doesn't work you can make a topsy turvy out of it.
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what is a topsy turvy?
A pot to grow plants in where you hang it, cut a hole in the bottom, plant the plant in the hole, and have the plant grow upside down.Originally Posted by UnReconstructed
Does it remove fluoride as well, or just natural poisons?
I want an EcoloBlue so bad...
and I want a Berkey filter system bad bad bad
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This is the one I decided to get.
http://www.aquarain.com/
aw... I saw that topsy turvy thing on tv...
5 gallon buckets work just as well.
Aye, they do.
I also got some inspiration from MsDoodahs container garden thread and made some of the water from the bottom containers out of 5 gallon buckets. My 1 year and 2 month old Tobasco pepper is thriving in one where it was almost a twice a day thing to keep it watered in a bucket last year. Now I fill it up about every other day.
About the filter I posted, I believe it would be a great emergency device but I don't think it will remove fluoride and stuff like that. I would love to see some creek or river water tested and then run through it and retested just to see if it really does the job.
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I second the Berkey, but the darn thing is more than my first car...
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They want so much money for that thing. Just buy a dehumidifier and filter the output water well. Same difference.
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I don't see any specs on the website regarding removal of various undesireables. I need to have fluoride and chlorine removal. So far I've only seen reverse osmosis systems that will do the job.
The fine print states that you need at least 35% humidity to make water... I don't know much about humidity but I have a greenhouse where I keep it at 35% and it's quite humid to me... I can't see my house (in the mid-west) being at a constant 35% during the water-making process.
Any thoughts... cause I really want this to work and ditch my Culligan machines.
Way too many space-age buzzwords on that website, lol; what do you think of the product? Do you have anything to test the quality of the water output with?
Was just about to state the same thing... real curious about some information on what exactly it removes. My guess is that it simply makes completely undrinkable water, drinkable.
Berkey does not draw out humidity, it filters dirty water by reverse osmosis. You could put smelly ditch water into the thing and get pure out the bottom.
http://glenbradley.net/share/aleksan...nitsyn_4-t.gif “And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if every Security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive and had to say good-bye to his family? Or if, during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat there in their lairs, paling with terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand?... The Organs would very quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and, notwithstanding all of Stalin's thirst, the cursed machine would have ground to a halt! If...if...We didn't love freedom enough. And even more – we had no awareness of the real situation.... We purely and simply deserved everything that happened afterward.” ― Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn
Doesn't R.O. remove all the essentials from the water too?
(that is according to the guy installing our water softener at our home)
If that's the case, wouldn't you need to add the minerals back in?
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I'd much rather get my nutrition from food, and my hydration from water.
I've never seen Berkey claim to use reverse osmosis.
Last I knew, it was just a filter to take out the fine debris such as microbes and dirt. I seriously doubt it even removes viruses. Most every filter I've seen doesn't remove viruses.
Yes, they put charcoal elements in to remove some chemicals, but in time, those charcoal elements will become filled with the chemicals and stop working.
It's not my understanding that Berkey's are reverse osmosis filters. Where are you seeing claims that they are?
I own one and I also have a reverse-osmosis unit from Culligan. Berkey's don't remove the minerals and Berkey's also do not remove fluoride. The latter, being the reason why I got the reverse-osmosis filter.
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I've never seen Berkey claim to use reverse osmosis.
Last I knew, it was just a filter to take out the fine debris such as microbes and dirt. I seriously doubt it even removes viruses. Most every filter I've seen doesn't remove viruses.
Yes, they put charcoal elements in to remove some chemicals, but in time, those charcoal elements will become filled with the chemicals and stop working.LOL, they say great minds run in the same channel.... interesting how we both posted the same thing in the same minute.It's not my understanding that Berkey's are reverse osmosis filters. Where are you seeing claims that they are?
I own one and I also have a reverse-osmosis unit from Culligan. Berkey's don't remove the minerals and Berkey's also do not remove fluoride. The latter, being the reason why I got the reverse-osmosis filter.
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Adding on their Berkey® Arsenic & Fluoride PF-2™ Reduction Elements supposedly removes most of it.
Testing for fluoride was based on 20-30ppm of the ion in the influent aqueous solution at a flow rate of no more than 3 gpm per cubic foot of media. Results of < 1ppm of the fluoride ion in the effluent were typical for the media (>95% reduction). Under optimum conditions, effluent concentrations of less than 50 ppb were readily achieved (>99.75% reduction).
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Yeah, but as I recall, it uses aluminum to do that. Since I've spent quite a bit of money getting the aluminum and other heavy metals OUT of my body, I wasn't too keen on putting them back in; even if the amount was extremely small.
I dunno guys. From what I studied, reverse-osmosis filters beat Berkey's hands-down. The water tastes much better too.
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As far as I understand, RO requires energy to run so in an emergency, I would stick by the standard filter units. I got my unit to use if I had to produce potable water in an emergency.
Ok, did more research -- Berkey is not RO, but I still like it best. Especially on well water, it is perfect for my needs.
on all these pretty contraptions yet just simple rainwater(already distilled by nature) and a smaller gravity fed filter(cheap) is all you need. The best natural rainwater in the world is on the tip of Tazmania where they bottle it and sell it for tons(best air quality as well). Water from hurricanes is great because there are few contaminants on its pathway. Just a simple filter is needed. Noone will ever convince me that any water is any better. Just let it pour for a few minutes before collecting it and collect it in a sanitary way, not off your roof with birdcrap etc. Put it thru a cheap filter and your all set. Of course you need to intake minerals separately since the rainwater has none. Try it out, put samples under a microscope from what you collected from various sources(tap,bottled) and convince yourself.
PS: If anyone want to open up the Hurricane Water Co, I am all in.
I think here in the acid rain capitol of the US, I'll stick with a filter, and decidedly not rainwater (which, btw forms around random airborn particulates)
I was considering getting one of these soon, are you still satisfied with it? luckily our water isn't flouridated.
I have the aqua rain system. I chose it over the berkey because they have some quality control problems with their filters failing. I have a well and am happy with the gravity systems..
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