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    I'm looking over Crypto Mail and it seems pretty good:

    http://www.cryptomail.org/

    What do you use and why?

    EDIT: I currently use Yahoo Mail but haven't liked it very much. They seem to make a lot of decisions for you. I just noticed that they were putting CFL emails in my Spam folder and when I tried to drag those emails into my Inbox, I got an error message and then those emails disappeared without getting to read them.

    Also, Crypto Mail appears to be defunct:

    "Copyright 2000-2005, CryptoMail.org. All Rights Reserved."
    Last edited by RCA; 05-04-2009 at 02:06 PM.



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    I settled on hushmail.com. We'll see how well it goes.

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    Nothing is truly secure. I'd recommend installing an email script like Sendmail or Postfix on your own computer. This requires knowledge and opening certain ports, but it's possible. Then you can encrypt your emails by using self-signed SSL and/or a private key. This ensures pretty good encryption, but the people receiving the email might wonder what the hell is up. If you REALLY need security in your messages then install command line .rar. You can encrypt your file, add a password, then slip the file into a non-threatening looking image.

    Perhaps I'm getting ahead of you? Hushmail is ok. :P But as in any company, they will be forced to hand over your email records if they need to.
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    PGP is pretty good protection.

    http://www.pgpi.org/

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    I always use FireGPG with Gmail. It's easy to use- just click "Encrypt" before hitting Send and select the key or keys needed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by clowns789 View Post
    I always use FireGPG with Gmail. It's easy to use- just click "Encrypt" before hitting Send and select the key or keys needed.
    I understand that uses PGP as the encryption/decryption engine. PGP is so good, the government has made it illegal for people outside of the United States to download it from the United States. That isn't a problem though since there are sites outside of the U.S to download it from.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Agent CSL View Post
    Nothing is truly secure. I'd recommend installing an email script like Sendmail or Postfix on your own computer. This requires knowledge and opening certain ports, but it's possible. Then you can encrypt your emails by using self-signed SSL and/or a private key. This ensures pretty good encryption, but the people receiving the email might wonder what the hell is up. If you REALLY need security in your messages then install command line .rar. You can encrypt your file, add a password, then slip the file into a non-threatening looking image.

    Perhaps I'm getting ahead of you? Hushmail is ok. :P But as in any company, they will be forced to hand over your email records if they need to.
    Can you explain some more about that slipping it into a image part?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Objectivist View Post
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    What the hell does a Mac got to do with privacy? Theyre just as bad as M$ when it comes to privacy.

    Trust me, I know the server end of things. Mail is sent in plain text, and if I really wanted to, with total control of a server, I could read every email you send or receive.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DamianTV View Post
    What the hell does a Mac got to do with privacy? Theyre just as bad as M$ when it comes to privacy.

    Trust me, I know the server end of things. Mail is sent in plain text, and if I really wanted to, with total control of a server, I could read every email you send or receive.
    Never said it was private, then nothing you have is private unless you work encryption for NSA. WHo here thinks that they can send private mail?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Objectivist View Post
    Never said it was private, then nothing you have is private unless you work encryption for NSA. WHo here thinks that they can send private mail?
    With 128 bit encryption, it is a heck of a lot more private than plain text. 128 bit or higher encryption would take a tremendous amount of processing power to decipher, especially if a great number of people were doing it. It would overload their capacity to decode all of the email they are looking at.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr.3D View Post
    With 128 bit encryption, it is a heck of a lot more private than plain text. 128 bit or higher encryption would take a tremendous amount of processing power to decipher, especially if a great number of people were doing it. It would overload their capacity to decode all of the email they are looking at.
    I'd agree with this. It would waste a lot of time just on one little email saying hi to mom and a pic of yourself.

    I did find a cool peace of software that hides text in innocent looking images. I am sure it's decipherable depending on the password used. If you used a 256bit Hex number for the password, it might take a good bit of work to find out what was hidden in the image.
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    Quote Originally Posted by american.swan View Post
    I'd agree with this. It would waste a lot of time just on one little email saying hi to mom and a pic of yourself.

    I did find a cool peace of software that hides text in innocent looking images. I am sure it's decipherable depending on the password used. If you used a 256bit Hex number for the password, it might take a good bit of work to find out what was hidden in the image.
    The trick is, to hide the text in the image using a password, and then encrypt the picture using a second password. They may get to see the image, but might not think to look for hidden text in the image.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr.3D View Post
    The trick is, to hide the text in the image using a password, and then encrypt the picture using a second password. They may get to see the image, but might not think to look for hidden text in the image.
    Are you saying that a person could see an encrypted file...be suspicious...crack it...see the image and not think there is another encrypted message in it??? How could you encrypt the whole image and yet still see the image?
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    Quote Originally Posted by american.swan View Post
    Are you saying that a person could see an encrypted file...be suspicious...crack it...see the image and not think there is another encrypted message in it??? How could you encrypt the whole image and yet still see the image?
    If the image was a picture of somebody and then there was text above and below it, they might just think the image was coincidental to the text.

    So first one would encrypt the text into the image and then write an email with references to what was shown in the image and embed the image into the letter. After embedding the image into the email, the email would then be encrypted.

    What would happen when the email was decrypted would be they saw an image with some accompanying text.

    Say perhaps you had an image of a dog and encrypted some hidden text in the image. You then place the image in an email and say something like, "This is a picture of my dog." After doing this, you then encrypted the entire email, image and all.

    This is what I was talking about.

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    Will I need a Little Orphan Annie secret decoder ring to read my emails?
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    The newest version of thunderbird for linux came with OpenPGP which is what I'm using.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sparebulb View Post
    Will I need a Little Orphan Annie secret decoder ring to read my emails?
    If you have the proper software, the encryption/decryption is invisible to the user.

    You wouldn't even notice it was encrypted.

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    I was using hushmail.com because it was referred to me by an investigator who wanted to communicate with me. I figured he wouldn't choose that service in his line of work if he didn't trust it.

    The problem is, if you don't log in frequently, they suspend your account unless you get the paid version of it. I had to put it in my task list in Outlook to remind me to go check my hushmail account so it wouldn't get suspended. I think it's once every three weeks you have to log in.

    It got annoying, but I don't need to use it now. I probably should.
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    Never mind what I said about choosing that service in his line of work. I just remembered that Obama uses Blackberry in his line of work. So much good judgment. LOL
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    What would be a good way to communicated securely on this board?

    We have way too many CNN, Beck, and CIA types reading our messages. For all we know, the spamming of polls by our opposition is actually government done, not people in their homes.

    The spamming of polls is just one indication of how serious our ideological (socialist) enemies are.

    Real important messages on this forum should be encrypted somehow.
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    Quote Originally Posted by american.swan View Post
    What would be a good way to communicated securely on this board?

    We have way too many CNN, Beck, and CIA types reading our messages. For all we know, the spamming of polls by our opposition is actually government done, not people in their homes.

    The spamming of polls is just one indication of how serious our ideological (socialist) enemies are.

    Real important messages on this forum should be encrypted somehow.
    Don't think that would be such a good idea.... next they would start calling us subversive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr.3D View Post
    Don't think that would be such a good idea.... next they would start calling us subversive.
    True, we can just use private messages.
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