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    NYT: Worries Rise on the Size of U.S. Debt

    http://www.nytimes.com/2009/05/04/bu..._r=1&th&emc=th

    Worries Rise on the Size of U.S. Debt

    By GRAHAM BOWLEY and JACK HEALY
    Published: May 3, 2009
    The nation’s debt clock is ticking faster than ever — and Wall Street is getting worried.

    Last week, the yield on 10-year Treasury notes rose to its highest level since November, briefly touching 3.17 percent, a sign that investors are demanding larger returns on the masses of United States debt being issued to finance an economic recovery.

    While that is still low by historical standards — it averaged about 5.7 percent in the late 1990s, as deficits turned to surpluses under President Bill Clinton — investors are starting to wonder whether the United States is headed for a new era of rising market interest rates as the government borrows, borrows and borrows some more.

    Already, in the first six months of this fiscal year, the federal deficit is running at $956.8 billion, or nearly one seventh of gross domestic product — levels not seen since World War II, according to Wrightson ICAP, a research firm.

    Debt held by the public is projected by the Congressional Budget Office to rise from 41 percent of gross domestic product in 2008 to 51 percent in 2009 and to a peak of around 54 percent in 2011 before declining again in the following years. For all of 2009, the administration probably needs to borrow about $2 trillion. . .

    The trouble is that government borrowing risks crowding out private investment, driving up interest rates and potentially slowing a recovery still trying to take hold. That is why the Federal Reserve announced an extraordinary policy this year to buy back existing long-term debt — $300 billion over six months — to drive down yields. The strategy worked for a while, but now the impact of that decision appears to be wearing off as long-term interest rates tick up again.

    Then there is the concern that the interest the government must pay on its debt obligations may become unsustainable or weigh on future generations. The Congressional Budget Office expects interest payments to more than quadruple in the next decade as Washington borrows and spends, to $806 billion by 2019 from $172 billion next year. . .

    To calm nerves and fill the deficit hole, the government is getting creative. The Treasury is ramping up its auction calendar, holding more frequent sales of government debt and selling the debt in expanded amounts. It is now holding sales of its 30-year bond each month, up from four times annually.

    It is also resuscitating previously discontinued bonds, such as the seven-year note and the three-year note, to try to mop up any available money all along the yield curve. There is even talk of issuing billions of dollars of a new 50-year bond, though the idea has not won official approval.

    On a second front, the Treasury and the Federal Reserve are trying to bolster the mechanics of the market — to make sure every auction goes smoothly. With such enormous sums involved, every extra basis point on the interest rate the government pays could mean extra billions of dollars for the taxpayer. Earlier this year, when demand was hesitant at a Treasury auction and when a British bond auction went poorly, investors grew nervous that the government might struggle to sell its mountain of debt.

    To avoid such an outcome and to keep borrowing costs low, the government is trying to expand the group of firms that bid at Treasury auctions. After the demise of such names as Lehman Brothers, the number of these firms, called primary dealers, has shrunk to 16, the smallest since this elite club was formed decades ago. Now the government is in discussions with smaller firms like Nomura and MF Global to persuade them to join.
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    "The Congressional Budget Office expects interest payments to more than quadruple in the next decade as Washington borrows and spends, to $806 billion by 2019 from $172 billion next year. . ."


    This says everything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RonPaulCentral View Post
    "The Congressional Budget Office expects interest payments to more than quadruple in the next decade as Washington borrows and spends, to $806 billion by 2019 from $172 billion next year. . ."


    This says everything.
    No it doesn't. The fact that the Chinese have stopped buying T bills says quite a lot. It tells me they might just sell all their bonds--and if they do, the market for them will crash and the government won't be able to borrow a damned dime.

    http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=191047
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    You only want the freedoms that will undermine the nation and lead to the destruction of liberty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    No it doesn't. The fact that the Chinese have stopped buying T bills says quite a lot. It tells me they might just sell all their bonds--and if they do, the market for them will crash and the government won't be able to borrow a damned dime.

    http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=191047
    Agreed.

    The public here is going to crap pellets when this mess comes to a head. I used to project the "event" out a fair distance..... not anymore.

    It really is going to be a complete currency collapse.

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    Worries Rise on the Size of U.S. Debt
    People are just figuring this out now?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SevenEyedJeff View Post
    People are just figuring this out now?
    To a great many Americans, it isn't the amount of debt it's the amount of credit. People are getting wind of the Chinese attitude toward the stuff lately. They know who the lender is...

    And they know how to tell when the party's over, too.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    You only want the freedoms that will undermine the nation and lead to the destruction of liberty.



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