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    Come in with a Ron Paul, Jesse Ventura, Constitution Party, Libertarian Party, C4L, Alex Jones-Info Warrior tee-shirt and you are guaranteed an automatic dismissal.

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    Lol!
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    The last time I was picked for jury duty I wouldn't have minded. I want to make sure we aren't getting screwed by the system.
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    I had jury duty last year...it was a civil case, this family was sueing a doctor because their husband/father had complications from taking too many meds.

    With a civil case you only need 10 out of the 12 to agree. After listening intently to everything it was obvious that the doctor on trial did nothing wrong and could not have done anything to prevent the complications (the guy saw the doctor on Monday and had the complications on Tuesday, one of the experts told us that even if the doctor had caught it in time, the guy would've suffered the same fate). I stood my ground and said he wasn't guilty...everyone kinda agreed that he wasn't guilty but they wanted to give the family some money anyway...which would have meant that we would need to find the doctor guilty. It came down to 9 people wanting to find him guilty and give the family a little bit of money for their troubles...myself and 2 others held our ground. This was a Friday evening and nobody wanted to have to come back in on Monday...we still held our ground.
    So we all came back in Monday after thinking about it over the weekend. It went from 9 people wanting to find him guilty to 11 people finding him not guilty (the one guy who held out had a father that had something bad happen at a hospital and he just wanted the doctor to suffer).

    After the trial was over, the defending lawyer told us that the family had taken every doctor who had seen him for that month to trial...and one had already settled (the one that was actually responsible), but he couldn't tell us that during the trial.

    This made me feel good, if I hadn't gone to jury duty that day some other person going only on emotion might have taken my spot and that doctor would be paying for something he wasn't guilty of.

    I was also on Grand Jury a few years ago...I was the sole "no" vote on many cases, though unfortunately they only needed 12 Yes votes out of the 20 of us to pass it on to a trial.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elwar View Post
    I had jury duty last year...it was a civil case, this family was sueing a doctor because their husband/father had complications from taking too many meds.

    With a civil case you only need 10 out of the 12 to agree. After listening intently to everything it was obvious that the doctor on trial did nothing wrong and could not have done anything to prevent the complications (the guy saw the doctor on Monday and had the complications on Tuesday, one of the experts told us that even if the doctor had caught it in time, the guy would've suffered the same fate). I stood my ground and said he wasn't guilty...everyone kinda agreed that he wasn't guilty but they wanted to give the family some money anyway...which would have meant that we would need to find the doctor guilty. It came down to 9 people wanting to find him guilty and give the family a little bit of money for their troubles...myself and 2 others held our ground. This was a Friday evening and nobody wanted to have to come back in on Monday...we still held our ground.
    So we all came back in Monday after thinking about it over the weekend. It went from 9 people wanting to find him guilty to 11 people finding him not guilty (the one guy who held out had a father that had something bad happen at a hospital and he just wanted the doctor to suffer).

    After the trial was over, the defending lawyer told us that the family had taken every doctor who had seen him for that month to trial...and one had already settled (the one that was actually responsible), but he couldn't tell us that during the trial.

    This made me feel good, if I hadn't gone to jury duty that day some other person going only on emotion might have taken my spot and that doctor would be paying for something he wasn't guilty of.

    I was also on Grand Jury a few years ago...I was the sole "no" vote on many cases, though unfortunately they only needed 12 Yes votes out of the 20 of us to pass it on to a trial.

    Good stuff. We need more impartial jurors like you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Volitzer View Post
    Come in with a Ron Paul, Jesse Ventura, Constitution Party, Libertarian Party, C4L, Alex Jones-Info Warrior tee-shirt and you are guaranteed an automatic dismissal.
    If you'd like to affect change, sitting on a jury is the biggest impact you can make for the amount of time and energy spent.

    Absolutely, anyone interested protecting or re-taking their freedom should welcome the opportunity to sit on a jury.

    The primary function of the independent juror is not, as many think, to dispense punishment to fellow citizens accused of breaking various laws, but rather to protect fellow citizens from tyrannical abuses of power by government.
    That is where you refuse to convict people for consensual "crimes."

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    Quote Originally Posted by MoneyWhereMyMouthIs2 View Post
    If you'd like to affect change, sitting on a jury is the biggest impact you can make for the amount of time and energy spent.

    Absolutely, anyone interested protecting or re-taking their freedom should welcome the opportunity to sit on a jury.



    That is where you refuse to convict people for consensual "crimes."

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    agreed

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    hubby went for jury duty one day last year... wore all camo, walked in with a rebel flag cap on, and usually has his head shaved and a crazy looking handlebar..LOL... People thought he was some white supremacist.

    When they ask him about if he is biased in any way, he says it depends...wait till I see them, then I just know.

    I was only called once, but they sent it to my grandma's...and I didn't live in that parish anymore...so... I didn't have to go.
    >Fights begin, finger prints are took, days is lost, bail is made, court dates are ignored, cycle is repeated.
    >Dear lord... please allow this dangerous combination of hair spray, bat slobber, and D.O.T. four automatic transmission fluid to excite my mind, occupy my spirits, and enrage my body, provoking me to kick any man or woman in the back of the head regardless of what he or she has or has not done unto me. All my Best, Earlie Cuyler.
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    I think Jury Duty is fine and all, but they shouldn't expect you to drive half way across the state like I've seen them do before. Only in the county you live.

    I've never actually been on Jury though. I got a notice once or twice but because I was in school and stuff, it never ended up going through.

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    Well, I have to admit that I would not be a good juror, and neither would dh..

    Thing is, I am biased one way, and he another. I WILL NOT convict someone of a crime I think shouldn't be a crime... so, yeah...

    That being said, my mom served on a jury for a murder trial when I was a sophomore in HS... It lasted about a month, and she was all the way across the state... best time of my life..seriously.
    >Fights begin, finger prints are took, days is lost, bail is made, court dates are ignored, cycle is repeated.
    >Dear lord... please allow this dangerous combination of hair spray, bat slobber, and D.O.T. four automatic transmission fluid to excite my mind, occupy my spirits, and enrage my body, provoking me to kick any man or woman in the back of the head regardless of what he or she has or has not done unto me. All my Best, Earlie Cuyler.
    - Earlie Cuyler

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    Last jury duty I got called for they wanted to know if I could send a man to jail for Rape and Sexual Assault with nothing more than "reasonable doubt". I got out of there pretty fast. I'm glad I didn't have to serve for that.

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    Use the right of nullification (law) regardless of pressure... The prosecutors will play mind games with a jury over "reasonable" doubt. What happens if you fail to convict someone based on "reasonable" doubt and he or she commits a similar act later? Will YOU feel guilty for failing to convict such a criminal based on "reasonable" doubt? Personally, I wouldn't feel guilty at all even if the newest victim were a member of my family. * It's the state's duty to present clear and unambiguous evidence to the jury for consideration of a verdict. Without such evidence, I wouldn't convict someone based merely on circumstantial evidence and testimony alone. In other words, I'd force the state to PROVE direct involvement of the defendant through physical evidence properly gathered and controlled.

    * I'd be mad as hell and likely tempted to extract revenge, but my anger and determination to see justice prevail doesn't obviate the state's RESPONSIBILITY to present clear and unambiguous evidence for a conviction.
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    I have only been called once. I got the notice the day after I'd won a contract. ( was a contractor and had been out of work for 3 months and was hurting...). It was an interesting job - it paid sweet! Caller my recruiter and the court. Heard back first from the recruiter - they had given the job to someone else. due to this. Jury duty started on my start date... The court let me know several days later that I had been relived due to hardship...). I didn't land another job for 3-4 months... and it TOTALLY SUCKED!

    FUCK THE STATE!

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    Quote Originally Posted by tangent4ronpaul View Post
    I have only been called once. I got the notice the day after I'd won a contract. ( was a contractor and had been out of work for 3 months and was hurting...). It was an interesting job - it paid sweet! Caller my recruiter and the court. Heard back first from the recruiter - they had given the job to someone else. due to this. Jury duty started on my start date... The court let me know several days later that I had been relived due to hardship...). I didn't land another job for 3-4 months... and it TOTALLY SUCKED!

    FUCK THE STATE!

    -t
    Really? It pays $14 a day where I was supposed to serve...then again that was my home town..I don't know what it is here. It wasn't even worth missing work...I got paid that in 2 hours in college..LOL.
    >Fights begin, finger prints are took, days is lost, bail is made, court dates are ignored, cycle is repeated.
    >Dear lord... please allow this dangerous combination of hair spray, bat slobber, and D.O.T. four automatic transmission fluid to excite my mind, occupy my spirits, and enrage my body, provoking me to kick any man or woman in the back of the head regardless of what he or she has or has not done unto me. All my Best, Earlie Cuyler.
    - Earlie Cuyler





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