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    Mass vaccinations in 1976 swine flu outbreak sicken and kill hundreds.

    Of course, at an Army base.

    I grew up in NJ, not too far away from Ft. Dix, I remember this...


    March 24, 1976: Ford Orders Swine-Flu Shots for All

    By Tony Long 03.24.08


    October 12, 1976: Nurse Jacqueline Spaky administers a swine-flu injection with an injector gun on the first day of the immunization program in New York City.

    Photo courtesy Bettman/Corbis

    1976: President Gerald Ford orders a nationwide vaccination program to prevent a swine-flu epidemic.

    Ford was acting on the advice of medical experts, who believed they were dealing with a virus potentially as deadly as the one that caused the 1918 Spanish influenza pandemic.

    The virus surfaced in February at Fort Dix, New Jersey, where 19-year-old Pvt. David Lewis told his drill instructor that he felt tired and weak, although not sick enough to skip a training hike. Lewis was dead with 24 hours.

    The autopsy revealed that Lewis had been killed by "swine flu," an influenza virus originating in pigs. By then several other soldiers had been hospitalized with symptoms. Government doctors became alarmed when they discovered that at least 500 soldiers on the base were infected without becoming ill.

    It recalled 1918, when infected soldiers returning from the trenches of World War I triggered a contagion that spread quickly around the world, killing at least 20 million people. Fearing another plague, the nation's health officials urged Ford to authorize a mass inoculation program aimed at reaching every man, woman and child. He did, to the tune of $135 million ($500 million in today's money).

    Mass vaccinations started in October, but within weeks reports started coming in of people developing Guillain-Barré syndrome, a paralyzing nerve disease, right after taking the shot. Within two months, 500 people were affected, and more than 30 died. Amid a rising uproar and growing public reluctance to risk the shot, federal officials abruptly canceled the program Dec. 16.

    In the end, 40 million Americans were inoculated, and there was no epidemic. A later, more technically advanced examination of the virus revealed that it was nowhere near as deadly as the 1918 influenza virus. The only recorded fatality from swine flu itself was the unfortunate Pvt. Lewis.



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    Interesting 1979 60 Minutes follow up piece to the above

    http://www.whale.to/vaccines/swine.html

    60 MINUTES, Sunday Nov 4, 1979

    "SWINE FLU"

    MIKE WALLACE: The flu season is upon us. Which type will we worry about this year, and what kind of shots will we be told to take? Remember the swine flu scare of 1976? That was the year the U.S. government told us all that swine flu could turn out to be a killer that could spread across the nation, and Washington decided that every man, woman and child in the nation should get a shot to prevent a nation-wide outbreak, a pandemic.

    Well 46 million of us obediently took the shot, and now 4,000 Americans are claiming damages from Uncle Sam amounting to three and a half billion dollars because of what happened when they took that shot. By far the greatest number of the claims - two thirds of them are for neurological damage, or even death, allegedly triggered by the flu shot.

    We pick up the story back in 1976, when the threat posed by the swine flu virus seemed very real indeed.

    PRESIDENT GERALD FORD; This virus was the cause of a pandemic in 1918 and 1919 that resulted in over half a million deaths in the United States, as well as 20 million deaths around the world.

    WALLACE: Thus the U.S. government's publicity machine was cranked into action to urge all America to protect itself against the swine flu menace. (Excerpt from TV commercial urging everyone to get a swine flu shot.) One of those who did roll up her sleeve was Judy Roberts. She was perfectly healthy, an active woman, when, in November of 1976, she took her shot. Two weeks later, she says, she began to feel a numbness starting up her legs.

    JUDY ROBERTS: And I joked about it at that time. I said I'll be numb to the knees by Friday if this keeps up. By the following week, I was totally paralyzed.

    WALLACE: So completely paralyzed, in fact, that they had to operate on her to enable her to breathe. And for six months, Judy Roberts was a quadriplegic. The diagnosis: A neurological disorder called "Guillian-Barre Syndrome" - GBS for short. These neurological diseases are little understood. They affect people in different ways.

    As you can see in these home movies taken by a friend, Judy Roberts' paralysis confined her mostly to a wheelchair for over a year. But this disease can even kill. Indeed, there are 300 claims now pending from the families of GBS victims who died, alledgedly as a result of the swine flu shot. In other GBS victims, the crippling effects diminish and all but disappear. But for Judy Roberts, progress back to good health has been painful and partial.

    Now, I notice that your smile, Judy, is a little bit constricted.

    ROBERTS: Yes, it is.

    WALLACE: Is it different from what it used to be?

    ROBERTS: Very different, I have a – a greatly decreased mobility in my lips. AndI can't drink through a straw on the right-band side. I can't blow out birthday candles. I don't whistle any more, for which my husband is grateful.

    WALLACE: It may be a little difficult for you to answer this question, but have you recovered as much as you are going to recover?

    ROBERTS: Yes. This - this is it.

    WALLACE: So you will now have a legacy of braces on your legs for the rest of your life?

    ROBERTS: Yes. The weakness in my hands will stay and the leg braces will stay.

    WALLACE: So Judy Roberts and her husband have filed a claim against the U.S. government. They're asking $12 million, though they don't expect to get nearly that much. Judy, why did you take the flu shot?

    ROBERTS: I'd never taken any other flu shots, but I felt like this was going to be a major epidemic, and the only way to prevent a major epidemic of a - a really deadly variety of flu was for every body to be immunized.

    WALLACE: Where did this so called "deadly variety of flu", where did it first hit back in 1976? It began right here at Fort Dix in New Jersey in January of that year, when a number of recruits began to complain of respiratory ailments, something like the common cold. An Army doctor here sent samples of their throat cultures to the New Jersey Public Health Lab to find our just what kind of bug was going around here. One of those samples was from a Private David Lewis, who had left his sick bed to go on a forced march. Private Lewis had collapsed on that march, and his sergeant had revived him by mouth-to-mouth resuscitation. But the sergeant showed no signs of illness. A few days later, Private Lewis died.

    ROBERTS: If this disease is so potentially fatal that it's going to kill a young, healthy man, a middle-aged schoolteacher doesn't have a prayer.

    WALLACE: The New Jersey lab identified most of those solders' throat cultures as the normal kind of flu virus going around that year, but they could not make out what kind of virus was in the culture from the dead soldier, and from four others who were sick. So they sent those cultures to the Federal Center for Disease Control in Atlanta, Georgia, for further study. A few days later they got the verdict: swine flu. But that much-publicized outbreak of swine flu at Fort Dix involved only Private Lewis, who died, and those four other soldiers, who recovered completely without the swine flu shot.

    ROBERTS: If I had known at that time that the boy had been in a sick bed, got up, went out on a forced march and then collapsed and died, I would never have taken the shot.

    DR DAVID SENCER: The rationale for our recommendation was not on the basis of the death of a - a single individual, but it was on the basis that when we do see a change in the characteristics of the influenza virus, it is a massive public-health problem in the country.

    WALLACE: Dr David Sencer, then head of the CDS - the Center of Disease Control in Atlanta - is now in private industry. He devised the swine flu program and he pushed it.

    You began to give flu shots to the American people in October of '76?

    DR SENCER: October 1st.

    WALLACE: By that time, how many cases of swine flu around the world had been reported?

    DR SENCER: There had been several reported, but none confirmed. There had been cases in Australia that were reported by the press, by the news media. There were cases in -

    WALLACE: None confirmed? Did you ever uncover any other outbreaks of swine flu anywhere in the world?

    DR SENCER: No

    WALLACE: Now, nearly everyone was to receive a shot in a public health facility where a doctor might not be present, therefore it was up to the CDC to come up with some kind of official consent form giving the public all the information it needed about the swine flu shot. This form stated that the swine flu vaccine had been tested. What it didn't say was that after those tests were completed, the scientists developed another vaccine and that it was the one given to most of the 46 million who took the shot. That vaccine was called "X-53a". Was X-53a ever field tested?

    DR SENCER: I-I can't say. I would have to -

    WALLACE: It wasn't

    DR SENCER: I don't know

    WALLACE: Well, I would think that you're in charge of the program

    DR SENCER: 1 would have to check the records. I haven't looked at this in some time.

    WALLACE: The information form the consent form was also supposed to warn people about any risk of serious complications following the shot. But did it?

    ROBERTS: No, I had never heard of any reactions other than a sore arm, fever, this sort of thing.

    WALLACE: Judy Roberts' husband, Gene, also took the shot.

    GENE ROBERTS: Yes, I looked at that document, I signed it. Nothing on there said I was going to have a heart attack, or I can get Guillain Barre, which I'd never heard of.

    WALLACE: What if people from the government, from the Center for Disease Control, what if they had indeed, known about it, what would be your feeling?

    JUDY ROBERTS: They should have told us.

    WALLACE: Did anyone ever come to you and say, "You know something, fellows, there's the possibility of neurological damage if you get into a mass immunization program?"

    DR SENCER: No

    WALLACE: No one ever did?

    DR SENCER: No

    WALLACE: Do you know Michael Hattwick?

    DR SENCER: Yes, uh-hmm.

    WALLACE: Dr Michael Hattwick directed the surveillance team for the swine flu program at the CDC. His job was to find out what possible complications could arise from taking the shot and to report his findings to those in charge. Did you know ahead of time, Dr Hattwick that there had been case reports of neurological disorders, neurological illness, apparently associated with the injection of influenza vaccine?

    DR MICHAEL HNITWlCK: Absolutely

    WALLACE: You did?

    DR HATIWICK: Yes

    WALLACE: How did you know that?

    DR HATrwICK: By review of the literature.

    WALLACE: So you told your superiors - the men in charge of the swine flu immunization program - about the possibility of neurological disorders?

    DR RATTWICK: Absolutely

    WALLACE: What would you say if I told you that your superiors say that you never told them about the possibility of neurological complications?

    DR HAJTWICK: That's nonsense. I can't believe that they would say that they did not know that there were neurological illnesses associated with influenza vaccination. That simply is not true. We did know that.

    DR SENCER: I have said that Dr Hattwick had never told me of his feelings on this subject.

    WALLACE: Then he's lying?

    DR SENCER: I guess you would have to make that assumption.

    WALLACE: Then why does this report from your own agency, dated July 1976, list neurological complications as a possibility?

    DR SENCER: I think the consensus of the scientific community was that the evidence relating neurologic disorders to influenza immunization was such that they did not feel that this association was a real one.

    WALLACE: You didn't feel it was necessary to tell the American people that information

    DR SENCER: I think that over the - the years we have tried to inform the American people as - as fully as possible.

    WALLACE: As part of informing Americans about the swine flu threat, Dr Sencer's CDC also helped create the advertising to get the public to take the shot. Let me read to your from one of your own agency's memos planning the campaign to urge Americans to take the shot. "The swine flu vaccine has been taken by many important persons," he wrote. "Example: President Ford, Henry Kissinger, Elton John, Muhammad Ah, Mary Tyler Moore, Rudolf Nureyev, Walter Cronkite, Ralph Nader, Edward Kennedy" -etcetera, etcetera, True?

    DR SENCER: I'm not familiar with that particular piece of paper, but I do know that, at least of that group, President Ford did take the vaccination.

    WALLACE: Did you talk to these people beforehand to find out if they planned to take the shot?

    DR SENCER: I did not, no.

    WALLACE: Did anybody?

    DR SENC ER: I do not know.

    WALLACE: Did you get permission to use their names in your campaign?

    DR SENCER: I do not know.

    WALLACE: Mary, did you take a swine flu shot?

    MARY TYLER MOORE: No, I did not.

    WALLACE: Did you give them permission to use your name saying that you had or were going to?

    MOORE: Absolutely not. Never did.

    WALLACE: Did you ask your own doctor about taking the swine flu shot?

    MOORE: Yes, and at the time he thought it might be a good idea. But I resisted it, because I was leery of having the symptoms that sometimes go with that kind of inoculation.

    WALLACE: So you didn't?

    MOORE: No, I didn't.

    WALLACE: Have you spoken to your doctor since?

    MOORE: Yes.

    WALLACE: And?

    MOORE: He's delighted that I didn't take that shot.

    WALLACE: You're in charge. Somebody's in charge.

    DR SENCER: There are -

    WALLACE: This is your advertising strategy that I have a copy of here.

    DR SENCER: Who's it signed by?

    WALLACE: This one is unsigned. But you--you'll acknowledge that it was your baby so to speak?

    DR SENCER: It could have been from the Department of Health, Education and Welfare. It could be from CDC. I don't know. I'll be happy to take responsibility for it.

    WALLACE: It's been three years now since you fell ill by GBS right?

    ROBERTS: Right.

    WALLACE: Has the federal government, in your estimation, played fair with you about your claim?

    ROBERTS: No, I don't think so. It seems to be dragging on and on and on, and really no end in sight that I can see at this point.

    JOSEPH CALIFANO: With respect to the cases of Guillain Barre...

    WALLACE: Former Secretary of HEW Joseph Caifano, too was disturbed that there was no end in sight. So a year and a half ago, he proposed that Uncle Sam would cut the bureaucratic red tape for victims suffering from GBS and would pay up quickly.

    CALIFANO: We shouldn't hold them to an impossible or too difficult standard of proving that they were hurt. Even if we pay a few people a few thousand dollars that might not have deserved it, I think justice requires that we promptly pay those people who do deserve it.

    WALLACE: Who's making the decision to be so hard-nosed about settling?

    CALIFANO: Well, I assume the Justice Department is.

    WALLACE: Griffin Bell, before he left?

    CALIFANO: Well, the Justice Department agreed to the statement I made. It was cleared word for word with the lawyers in the Justice Department by my HEW lawyers.

    CALIFANO: That-that statement said that we should pay Guillain Barre claims without regard to whether the federal government was negligent, if they - if they resulted from the swine flu shot.

    GENE ROBERTS: I think the government knows its wrong.

    JUDY ROBERTS: If it drags out long enough, that people will just give up, let it go.

    GENE ROBERTS: I—I am a little more adament in my thoughts than my wife is, because I asked - told Judy to take the shot. She wasn't going to take it, and she never had had shots. And I'm mad with my government because they knew the fact, but they didn't realise those facts because they - if they had released them, the people wouldn't have taken it. And they can come out tomorrow and tell me there's going to be an epidemic, and they can drop off like flies to - next to me, I will not take another shot that my government tells me to take.

    WALLACE: Meantime, Judy Roberts and some 4,000 others like her are still waiting for their day in court.

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    Just say, no! If they insist otherwise, well, you know what to do .

    I remember the 1976 outbreak. I refused vaccination, and I've never regretted it.
    Last edited by tpreitzel; 04-26-2009 at 11:38 PM.

  5. #4
    Do you think they'll force it on kids?

  6. #5
    I will not be taking any government ordered vaccine and neither will my family.
    "Governor, if I had foreseen the use those people
    designed to make of their victory,
    there would have been no surrender at
    Appomattox Courthouse; no sir, not by me.
    Had I foreseen these results of subjugation,
    I would have preferred to die at Appomattox
    with my brave men, my sword in my right hand." - Robert E. Lee to Governor Fletcher S. Stockdale (D-Texas), 1870


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    Quote Originally Posted by jdmyprez_deo_vindice View Post
    I will not be taking any government ordered vaccine and neither will my family.
    I don't intend to, either. I just wonder if they will try to force it on the kids.

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    28 states can force you to vaccinate

    or charge you with a crime and quarantine you. Once a state declares a health emergency they are pretty much in charge. You effectively become wards of the state. Lets hope it does not come to that.

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    We know that the government considers us domestic terrorists anyway so we might as well all tack on failure to take mandatory vaccinations to the list of trumped up criminal charges. If they try to force my kids to take this crap in school than I will simply not send them. Our local school has in class flouride rinses after each lunch period and I refuse to let my kids take part in it and they were blatantly told that if they do it anyway than I will sue the district for so much that they will have to hold charity bake sales just to pay their teachers. So if they try this vaccination garbage than they are going to have a major problem.
    "Governor, if I had foreseen the use those people
    designed to make of their victory,
    there would have been no surrender at
    Appomattox Courthouse; no sir, not by me.
    Had I foreseen these results of subjugation,
    I would have preferred to die at Appomattox
    with my brave men, my sword in my right hand." - Robert E. Lee to Governor Fletcher S. Stockdale (D-Texas), 1870




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    yea, I kinda wigged out when I read about the high school in Cibolo, TX.
    Last edited by constituent; 04-27-2009 at 07:48 AM.

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    Drudge has a cryptic note up on his site.

    LOW FLYING DEF DEPT AIRCRAFT TRIGGER BUILDING EVAC IN NYC...
    It wasn't my building!
    "Your mother's dead, before long I'll be dead, and you...and your brother and your sister and all of her children, all of us dead, all of us..rotting in the ground. It's the family name that lives on. It's all that lives on. Not your personal glory, not your honor, but family." - Tywin Lannister


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    Quote Originally Posted by Cowlesy View Post
    Drudge has a cryptic note up on his site.



    It wasn't my building!




    Military Jets Flying Over NYC Part Of Photo Shoot

    F-16s Seen Escorting A 747 Near Statue Of Liberty Affiliated With Department of Defense Photo Op

    FAA Says Mayor's Office, NYPD, NJ State Police & Other Authorities Were Notified

    CBS 2 Flooded With Phone Calls From Concerned Residents, Workers

    Some military aircraft flying over lower Manhattan caused a brief scare for residents, workers, and pedestrians on Monday, but CBS 2 has learned the jets were part of a Department of Defense photo shoot and that there is no threat to the city.

    According to many callers who flooded CBS 2 with their concerns, at about 10 a.m. the aircraft were seen flying at low altitudes over the Statue of Liberty and parts of lower Manhattan. The Federal Aviation Administration confirmed that two F-16s escorting a Boeing 747 that beared a similar appearance to Air Force One were part of the Department of Defense photo shoot.

    Did You See The Jets? Tell Us What You Saw & Upload Your Pictures, Video Here

    Many residents and workers who saw the aircraft evacuated their buildings as a result, but officials say there is no reason for a panic.

    Ellen in Bayonne, N.J. described what she saw to WCBSTV.com: "I saw the jet flying very very low over the Hudson river, it looked like it was going to fly through our office window. Then it banked sharply toward New Jersey. But our building was evacuated because it did this 3 times. A photo shoot should have been communicated to the building in the area. We haven't forgotten 9/11, people were in a panic, lots of rumors, not a good situation."

    Most witnesses who called and wrote to CBS 2 HD and WCBSTV.com were furious that local authorities hadn't notified anyone about the fly-over. The FAA, however, says they contacted the NYPD, Mayor Michael Bloomberg's Office, New Jersey state police and other local authorities were told ahead of time about the shoot.

    Air Force officials say this was a photo mission for their crew. They were shooting from the Statue of Liberty to south of the Holland tunnel, as well as from the Newark Bay to north of the Staten Island Expressway.

    Officials say the shoot was part of a normal training mission. They added that they do these mission quite often.

    Here are some other descriptions sent in to WCBSTV.com by witnesses:

    David Frank of Jersey City wrote: "I work in 30 Hudson, which is the largest building in NJ and is right on the water facing the Statue of Liberty. I ran out of the building after a stampede of people began running out of the building as they saw the jumbo jet being followed by two fighter planes veer sharply towards our building and climb right over it. By the time I got outside, it was coming around for its THIRD pass, and I watched it level off below building height over the water and then once again veer sharply towards the building. Several hundred of us began to run away fearing for our lives before it climbed steeply and flew over our building. Whoever thought that this 'photo op' was a good idea should be removed from command...why couldn't this simply be done with Photo Shop? Hollywood can create an entire armageddon on film but the US military can't photo shop a plane by the Statue of Liberty?"

    Patrick Kennell of NYC wrote: "We saw a low-flying 747 buzz the Southwest edge of Manhattan, at Battery Park City, with a fighter jet appearing to chase it on its left wing. At about Rector Street or so, it took a hard left and looked to be headed straight for Jersey City. It flew over J.C., turned south, and continued to climb over Newark. It left our sight, only to return on the same path a second time about five minutes later. It was confusing and panicked the office. We dialed 9-1-1 and considered whether to evacuate. We were told by 9-1-1 that it was 'authorized' to be there. We later learned, from your website, that it was part of a DOD 'photo op.' NotifyNYC advises it was 'part of an approved federal activity.' To conduct a 'photo op,' unwarned in advance to Lower Manhattan residents and workers, in that manner was completely irresponsible."

    Nancy in Lower Manhattan wrote: "Our building, One New York Plaza, was evacuated, as were most of the high rises in this area. How could the US MILITARY think that NYers wouldn't be alarmed by low-flying jets? Why was the city not notified beforehand?"

    Stay with wcbstv.com and CBS 2 HD for more on this developing story.

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    whoever thought that this 'photo op' was a good idea should be removed from command...why couldn't this simply be done with photo shop? Hollywood can create an entire armageddon on film but the us military can't photo shop a plane by the statue of liberty?
    qft
    "No matter how noble you try to make it, your good intentions will not compensate for the mistakes that people make; that want to run
    our lives and run the economy, and reject the principles of private property and making up our own decisions for ourselves." -Ron Paul

  15. #13
    Hmmm, so you wouldn't vaccinate even if millions of people were dying from the disease?

    This disease is already within our borders, though it seems to be a less virulent mutant (ie no-one has died). If people start dying from the disease en masse, I will certainly be getting the vaccine.

    300 "claims" out of 40 million vaccinated is well under 1 in 100,000. Use of contact lenses is about as deadly as that vaccine (one in ten thousand get a severe infection from them, and about one in ten of those go blind, where a much smaller number die).

    It's important to keep things in perspective. A tiny number of deaths isn't really a big deal when you are dealing with those kinds of numbers of patients. It's barely above the background noise (ie, how do you know the paralysis was caused by the vaccine, and not some bad pork, or black mold, or undiagnosed cancer, or any number of other things that can go wrong, and will go wrong when the sample size is that large).

    That also doesn't take into account the fact that we don't have a vaccine for this strain, but it is vulnerable to the antiviral drug Tamiflu, which is only taken AFTER you are infected.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Johnnybags View Post
    or charge you with a crime and quarantine you. Once a state declares a health emergency they are pretty much in charge. You effectively become wards of the state. Lets hope it does not come to that.
    Which states are those???

  17. #15
    Quote Originally Posted by tmosley View Post
    Hmmm, so you wouldn't vaccinate even if millions of people were dying from the disease?
    There is a difference between weighing the advantages and downsides and making an informed decision at that point, and being forced at the barrel of gun to do it.

  18. #16
    Quote Originally Posted by LittleLightShining View Post
    I don't intend to, either. I just wonder if they will try to force it on the kids.
    they most likely will try...when i went back to college the first thing they asked me for was my vaccination papers
    so they will most likely mandate it "for the good of the children"
    The accumulated filth of all their sex & murder will foam up about their waists & all the whores & politicians will look up & shout "Save us!"... & I'll look down and whisper "No."



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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    There is a difference between weighing the advantages and downsides and making an informed decision at that point, and being forced at the barrel of gun to do it.
    That's true. Everyone is up in hysterics over how "dangerous" vaccines are, but nobody ever argues the argument that has real weight, that people have sovereignty over their bodies.

    Vaccines aren't dangerous. Governments are.

  21. #18
    Part of the swine flue panic came from the outbreak of the legionaires disease. From wikipedia below.

    "The first recognized outbreak occurred on July 27, 1976 at the Bellevue Stratford Hotel in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, where members of the American Legion, a United States military veterans association, had gathered for the American Bicentennial. Within two days of the event’s start, veterans began falling ill with a then-unidentified pneumonia. They had high breathing rates and chest pains. Numbers differ, but perhaps as many as 221 people were given medical treatment and 34 deaths occurred. At the time, the U.S. was debating the risk of a possible swine flu epidemic, and this incident prompted the passage of a national swine flu vaccination program. That cause was ruled out, and research continued for months, with various theories discussed in scientific and mass media that ranged from toxic chemicals to terrorism (domestic or foreign) aimed at the veterans. The U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention mounted an unprecedented investigation and by September, the focus had shifted from outside causes, such as a disease carrier, to the hotel environment itself. In January 1977, the Legionellosis bacterium was finally identified and isolated, and found to be breeding in the cooling tower of the hotel’s air conditioning system, which then spread it through the entire building. This finding prompted new regulations worldwide for climate control systems."
    War; everything in the world wrong, evil and immoral combined into one and multiplied by millions.

  22. #19
    CNN is going to talk about the pros and cons of mass vaccinations at the top of the hour, 9 am CST
    "I'm not just trying to win or get elected. I am trying to change the course of history" - Ron Paul



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