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    What kind of person supports Ron Paul?

    I'm a libertarian. I started out as a left-liberal and then became more independent with my ideas, eventually becoming an individualist and hard-core capitalist.

    The kind of people I'm seeing being supportive of Ron Paul are of course, some libertarians (key word; some), paleoconservatives, market anarchists, as well as a number of moderates and liberals who are more open minded or moderate towards free markets.

    This is some mix isn't it? I don't agree with Ron Paul on everything but I think he's a step in the right direction, even if he doesn't win he'll have a positive influence.



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    Libertarian. Supported the war in Iraq in '03, but have since come to regret that decision. Atheist, still trying to make up my mind about my view on abortion (currently: a woman should have the right to abortion up to the moment where the fetus could survive on its own outside the body). Support open borders, but believe that because of the mistakes made in our foreign policy over the last century, we've made so many enemies that we need to secure our borders. Also believe that our welfare state attracts many immigrants that want a free lunch (though I believe that most immigrants come here to improve their lives by working hard).
    You either believe that within your society more individuals are good than evil, and that by protecting the freedom of individuals within that society you will end up with a society that is as fair as possible, or you believe that within your society more individuals are evil than good, and that by limiting the freedom of individuals within that society you will end up with a society that is as fair as possible.

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    Well, its my personal belief that everyone is a libertarian (more or less) until they start to desire some sort of power over other individuals, or get scared into wanting government protection. Most people have libertarian leanings on many issues, even if its a statement as simple and universal as a "live and let live" policy (towards the middle east or otherwise). So I think thats a strong motivating factor for many people to support Dr. Paul.

    A lot of people are afraid of the free market, and want government protection from it. I think a lot of that stems from the collision of big corporate lobbiests and a republican democracy. Most people don't understand that a lot of the inequality in the market and our society stems from corporations protecting their interests by meddling in the market by influencing lawmakers, thus no longer making it free. Many people think to support a free market is to support big corporations and the wealth gap, which of course is not the case.

    Then there is the fact that he is straightforward, honest, and clearly more courageous than the other 9 GOP canidates.

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    Former extreme right republican here, had a major wake up call about a month ago. Hit the wall, figured out that I was wrong, that we were wrong, and that Haebeus Corpus is suspended, and that the Patriot Act lets GW declare Martial Law for any reason, and congress can't reveiw that action for 6 months.

    I guess I'm still a republican, but under a different name. The real republican party exists now as the Libertarian party, becuase our name has been hijacked and soiled on by war-mongering neo-cons.

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    These kinds of people: http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=32



    I don't care for labels. I'm just an American who likes what I hear from Dr.Paul.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JoshLowry View Post
    These kinds of people: http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=32



    I don't care for labels. I'm just an American who likes what I hear from Dr.Paul.
    well said

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    I consider myself conservative, but many people will call me libertarian.

    I'm basically from the Milton Friedman school of thought: "I don't really care very much what I'm called. I'm much more interested in having people thinking about the ideas, rather than the person."



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    Quote Originally Posted by aravoth View Post
    I guess I'm still a republican, but under a different name. The real republican party exists now as the Libertarian party, becuase our name has been hijacked and soiled on by war-mongering neo-cons.
    Well said.

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    I was Barry Goldwater in a former life

    (Minus the rampant McCarthyism)

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    I was a college social-liberal, then a member of the apathy party. These days I'm calling myself a pro-choice libertarian.

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    RP supporters are going to tend to be: young, male, well-educated, white collar, self-motivated. In other words, 1% of the electorate, but 40% of every internet polling sample.

    Where are we talking right now? On the web. How about that.
    If the highest aim of a captain were to preserve his ship, he would keep it in port forever. -- Saint Thomas Aquinas

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    The more I studied American history, the more I began to realize that the founding fathers must be spiining rapidly in their graves if they can see what these globocops and authoritarians are doing to our liberty and our reputation in the world as well as our economic health.

    Ron Paul seems to be our ONLY hope of restoring the Constitution.

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    BTW,

    I just started a MSN group dedicated to the campaign

    http://groups.msn.com/RonPaulGrassRo...0&ID_Message=2

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    A paleoconservative. A fan of The American Conservative, Chronicles, VDare, antiwar.com, LewRockwell.com, The League of the South, The Vermont secessionists, AmRen, Steve Sailer, Larison.org, ConservativeTimes.org, Takimag.com, the Distributists, the Southern Agrarians, Burke, Tocqueville, T.S. Eliot, Russell Kirk, Richard Weaver, Robert Nisbet, etc.



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    I am patriot conservative, Army Veteran, firefighter/paramedic, Pittsburgh Steelers fan, Copenhagen dipper ( I know, I was young though), agnostic, beagle owner, snook slayer (I wish). About 11 months ago I came across a website that stated the CIA (rogue agents) has been running drugs (cocaine and heroin) into the America for 45yrs. I laughed at that notion, but I soon wasn't laughing anymore and that was just the tip of the iceberg. I'm not going to lie, the truth can screw up your life, many sleepless nights wishing it wasn't true. I'm thankful that I don't have children because I would be ragging right now. We got hope in Ron Paul. It's a slim chance because of the system, but what else do we got?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MsDoodahs View Post
    Market Anarchist here.
    ditto. I like the term anarcho-capitalist and A.J. Nock, Lysander Spooner, Napolitano, Lew Rockwell, Mises, Jefferson, Burke, and the US Constitution.
    "Without the state there would be anarchy for that is, despite all of the perfervid ravings of the Marxist Left and statist Right, all that anarchy means — the absence of the state, the opportunity for liberty."
    – Karl Hess

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    I'm a real conservative.

    I understand that govenment is a necessary evil. I understand this doesn't simply apply to domestic policy - but to foreign policy as well.

    I am a conservative however. I think it is perfectly acceptable to allow lower forms of government to impede individual freedoms. The smaller the form of government, the better. People are then free to vote with their feet and find an area more in to their liking for what government should do for them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ARealConservative View Post
    People are then free to vote with their feet and find an area more in to their liking for what government should do for them.
    or to change it:
    But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.
    "Without the state there would be anarchy for that is, despite all of the perfervid ravings of the Marxist Left and statist Right, all that anarchy means — the absence of the state, the opportunity for liberty."
    – Karl Hess

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    I know from reading Josh's post that he doesn't like to tag people with a name, and I can see his point.
    On the other hand, I think it's fascinating to see the group that Ron is pulling together.
    I'm an independent constitutionalist, a Pat Buchanan type. I've been keeping up with Ron Paul for a few years now.
    Most of us all see certain things that we're not quite happy with about Ron, myself, I'd like to see a stronger stand on immigration and more protection for our trade.
    My point is, no president can be our perfect dream president.

    This man is real, what you see is what you get. That's why I think he's pulling together all types. We've all been looking for a Ron Paul for a long time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JoshLowry View Post
    These kinds of people: http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=32



    I don't care for labels. I'm just an American who likes what I hear from Dr.Paul.
    Well I'm not asking for labels.

    What are you ideals, values, principles and beliefs? Where do you think the country needs to be headed and how do you think Ron Paul with bring us there?

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    Im Paleoconservative/Libertarian

    Government is too big
    We have too much legal immigration
    Non-intervention is right
    Illegal Immigrants need to go back
    I dont really care if pot is legalized
    I want gold backed money.
    We spend too much
    Abortion is wrong, but may be allowed in certain circumstances.

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    I am a 23 year old libertarian and a 2nd amendment activist



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    Former bible thumper christian republican, now an athiest libertarian. Former war monger, neo-conservative hannity/o'reilly/beck fan. Can't stand any of them now. I love the United States, but the government has been hijacked by constituion shredders and special interest groups. We need to return the US to what it was meant to be. A simple country where people from all over the world can come to get an oppurtunity. Not nomadic UN resolution lapdogs.

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    People sick of this war and see someone who will not let this foreign policy "mistake" happen again.

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    paleocon here

    True southerner who knows it means. Unlike those shills in South Carolina last night. Sic semper tyrannis.... the motto of my home state...the commonwealth of Virginia. Means... "thus always to tyrants."

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    I think I'm a traditional conservative, perhaps paleoconservative, though that seems to imply outdated, which I don't like. I'm a conservative after the likes of the founding fathers.

    Perhaps the thing that appeals to me the most about Congressman Paul is that he tries to legislate constitutionally, as is his sworn duty. He does not waver. He has strong held convictions, as is obvious from the debate last night, that he will not waver from even if it is unpopular. His convictions seem to stem not from what feels good, or seems right, or that someone has told him, but from a study of history, from economics, and probably other studies as well. I like him because he seems to be intellectually honest. He also seems like a decent person.

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    As much as I'd like to say I'm this and that I've always voted down the ticket Republican. My first vote was for Bush in '00 -- I remember what Ron Paul is talking about, I voted for Bush based on his desire for non-police of the world, non-nation building, non-big-government. And while I (being a minority) believe in the sincerety of GWBush, he should have followed through on his word whether or not he believed the entire world changed after 9/11.

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    Arrow an interesting post

    though redundant to the 'introduce yourself' post. I think the unvarnished message of freedom unites people from all walks of life, however. I think some people are a mix. As for myself, I am liberal when it comes to women's rights and the gay community, but 'conservative' (re-defined to its classical sense by Dr. Paul for me) in the libertarian sense of less government, fiscal responsibility, strict immigration, gun rights (though i believe in more stringent background checks for deranged or violent individuals). I think that Dr. Paul's genteel demeanor, and his fierce yet quiet intelligence will win many over!

    Jimmy

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