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Thread: ABC News Poll - Should Texas secede from the union? VOTE NOW!!! VOTE YES!!!!

  1. 04-16-2009, 08:57 PM #1
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    ABC News Poll - Should Texas secede from the union? VOTE NOW!!! VOTE YES!!!!

    ABC News Poll - Should Texas secede from the union? VOTE NOW!!! VOTE YES!!!!

    Now 2 polls!
    http://www.ktrh.com/main.html
    &
    http://abclocal.go.com/ktrk/story?se...ate&id=6765449

    Poll is halfway down on the right of the page!

    http://abclocal.go.com/ktrk/story?se...ate&id=6765449

    If it wasn't for the founding fathers wanting to secede from Britain, America would not exist today.

    The Declaration of Independence clearly states that it is the right of the people abolish government, and institute new government if it becomes destructive of Liberty.
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    "Governor, if I had foreseen the use those people designed to make of their victory,
    there would have been no surrender at Appomattox Courthouse; no sir, not by me.
    Had I foreseen these results of subjugation, I would have preferred to die at Appomattox
    with my brave men, my sword in my right hand."     - Robert E. Lee to Governor Fletcher S. Stockdale (D-Texas), 1870
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    LOL, So far, 77% have voted yes.
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  4. 04-16-2009, 09:02 PM #3
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    77% Yes.

    lol
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    Talk of secession is an attack on our country. It can be nothing else. It is the ultimate anti-American statement," Dunnam said at a news conference.
    Hmmm..Seems someone need a history lesson in the founding of the country.
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    Ron Paul, President of Texas for life.

    I like the sound of that.
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    83% yes.

    lol
    Why can't everybody else leave everybody else alone?
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    Perry = nwo scum
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    Hopefully the Mittbots don't find out about this one.
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    Here's some background info on secession courtesy of the Mises Institute

    http://mises.org/media.aspx?action=search&q=secession
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  12. 04-16-2009, 09:53 PM #10
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    Quote Originally Posted by Conza88 View Post
    Perry = nwo scum
    I am curious. Why do you say that?
    He was against Bush's bailouts and now against this new wave of bailouts. That does not seem NWO to me.
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    voted
    85% yes
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    Quote Originally Posted by carlangaslangas View Post
    I am curious. Why do you say that?
    He was against Bush's bailouts and now against this new wave of bailouts. That does not seem NWO to me.
    Research is your friend.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Conza88 View Post
    Perry = nwo scum
    Quote Originally Posted by carlangaslangas View Post
    I am curious. Why do you say that?
    He was against Bush's bailouts and now against this new wave of bailouts. That does not seem NWO to me.
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    North American Union, Bilderberg & Gov. Rick Perry
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    Perry is not NWO, but he is severely misguided.
    tu ne cede malis
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    Quote Originally Posted by Krippy View Post
    Perry is not NWO, but he is severely misguided.
    TX Gov. Rick Perry Attends Bilderberg in Istanbul, 2007

    YouTube - TX Gov. Rick Perry Attends Bilderberg in Istanbul, 2007


    Rick Perry's Bilderberg Visit Violation Of Logan Act?
    Texas Governor's visit to ultra secret elitist group could be criminal, press secretary refuses to comment

    http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles...7rickperry.htm
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    Quote Originally Posted by carlangaslangas View Post
    I am curious. Why do you say that?
    He was against Bush's bailouts and now against this new wave of bailouts. That does not seem NWO to me.
    Trans Texas Corridor 1.
    Border security 2.
    Attends Bilderberg meetings 3.
    George W. Bush's Lt. Gov. back when Bush was Gov. 4. (and Biggest one)

    he's pandering to the feel of Texans right now to save his ass in 2010.

    I will never vote for him.

    Medina for Governor!
    "Governor, if I had foreseen the use those people designed to make of their victory,
    there would have been no surrender at Appomattox Courthouse; no sir, not by me.
    Had I foreseen these results of subjugation, I would have preferred to die at Appomattox
    with my brave men, my sword in my right hand."     - Robert E. Lee to Governor Fletcher S. Stockdale (D-Texas), 1870
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    with my yes vote, it becomes 86-13!
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    Haha just like a Lou Dobbs slanted poll. 87%-12% 1241 people.
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    Quote Originally Posted by carlangaslangas View Post
    I am curious. Why do you say that?
    He was against Bush's bailouts and now against this new wave of bailouts. That does not seem NWO to me.
    look through the facade.
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    Corrupt media flips numbers. Until the MSM is brought down, there is no chance for freedom.
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    Poll on am 740 houston

    ANOTHER TX secession poll

    http://www.ktrh.com/main.html

    its about 70/30 now
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    Fox News was hammering him this morning and calling on him to apologize for his remarks (Geraldo Rivera, Bridgett Carlson and Steve Doocy, that is) about seceding.

    You simply do not threaten Leviathan, ever!
    "Your mother's dead, before long I'll be dead, and you...and your brother and your sister and all of her children, all of us dead, all of us..rotting in the ground. It's the family name that lives on. It's all that lives on. Not your personal glory, not your honor, but family." - Tywin Lannister

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    Maybe Medina needs to run on a platform of secession.
    Definition of political insanity: Voting for the same people expecting different results.
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    Remember what Luntz says, it's "words that work".

    Had Rasmussen phrased the question like, "If Washington D.C. and the federal gov't become oppressive, should TX reserve the right to secede?", you'd have a much higher positive response rate.

    Here are the Rasmussen questions and results. Looking at the raw data will give you a better picture than some talking head's interpretation.

    http://www.rasmussenreports.com/publ..._april_16_2009
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cowlesy View Post
    Fox News was hammering him this morning and calling on him to apologize for his remarks (Geraldo Rivera, Bridgett Carlson and Steve Doocy, that is) about seceding.

    You simply do not threaten Leviathan, ever!
    How can you stomach that?

    Faux and Friends that is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cowlesy View Post
    Remember what Luntz says, it's "words that work".

    Had Rasmussen phrased the question like, "If Washington D.C. and the federal gov't become oppressive, should TX reserve the right to secede?", you'd have a much higher positive response rate.

    Here are the Rasmussen questions and results. Looking at the raw data will give you a better picture than some talking head's interpretation.

    http://www.rasmussenreports.com/publ..._april_16_2009
    Key point!! 18% saw past the question and said yes to leaving the union. To encourage that 18% for our side, our candidate needs to make it clear that leaving the union is an option she would take seriously. As in, it's not off the table.
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    Keep this thread alive guys.
    "Governor, if I had foreseen the use those people designed to make of their victory,
    there would have been no surrender at Appomattox Courthouse; no sir, not by me.
    Had I foreseen these results of subjugation, I would have preferred to die at Appomattox
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    I voted 'yes' despite the fact that I would cry if Texas actually seceded as we'd lose Ron Paul's seat in the House.
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    Yet that scaffold sways the future, and, behind the dim unknown,
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