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Thread: Would you use lethal force to defend a pet?

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    Would you use lethal force to defend a pet?

    If someone was attempting to seriously injure or kill your pet, would you use lethal force against that person if it was necessary to stop them?



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  3. #2
    I would. My dog is like my child.

  4. #3
    Yes. My dog is literally my best friend.

    If someone's trying to kill my friend (animal or human), I'm going to defend them at all costs.

  5. #4
    My animals are my property. I will defend them as I defend all my property.
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  6. #5
    Depends on where it happens and the sitution that caused it. You'd have to supply a more specific hypothetical.

  7. #6
    I'd try to persuade the person not to, maybe make up a sob story, but wouldn't exert too much effort in saving its life.

  8. #7
    Quote Originally Posted by Rael View Post
    If someone was attempting to seriously injure or kill your pet, would you use lethal force against that person if it was necessary to stop them?
    I wouldn't use lethal force against anyone who I knew was only going after my property. The only possible reason I would use lethal force would be to defend people.
    “If you're on the wrong road, progress means doing an about-turn and walking back to the right road; in that case, the man who turns back soonest is the most progressive.” -CS Lewis

    The use of force to impose morality is itself immoral, and generosity with others' money is still theft.

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  9. #8
    Quote Originally Posted by tremendoustie View Post
    I wouldn't use lethal force against anyone who I knew was only going after my property. The only possible reason I would use lethal force would be to defend people.
    So you dog is equally valubale as your tv or stereo?



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  11. #9
    Yeah, be more specific. Because at this point, a yes vote would mean I would shoot at a vehicle that I thought would hit my pup that was in the road.

  12. #10
    I guess I should say, if someone was attacking your pet and had no justification for it (ie they are not a intruder and your pet attacked them for no reason)

  13. #11
    Only if there were no witnesses and I had a cheap unregistered gun to place in his dead hands.
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  14. #12
    You could always say that the guy attacked you, the dog tried to help you, and you ended up shooting him to defend yourself =P

  15. #13
    The people who voted "No" must be cat owners...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Natalie View Post
    The people who voted "No" must be cat owners...
    Whoa there. I would defend my cats if someone tried to hurt them in any way.
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  17. #15
    Quote Originally Posted by Natalie View Post
    The people who voted "No" must be cat owners...
    I don't feel near the same level of connection to my cat as to my dog, but I would still defend my cat.

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  20. #17
    Yes, my animals are my property and are like family to me.
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  21. #18
    I don't see a cat bothering to defend you... they are narcissistic by nature.
    They would rather run away and hide.
    Now your dog will die to defend you.
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  22. #19
    Quote Originally Posted by torchbearer View Post
    I don't see a cat bothering to defend you... they are narcissistic by nature.
    They would rather run away and hide.
    Now your dog will die to defend you.
    Not true!



  23. #20
    Quote Originally Posted by torchbearer View Post
    I don't see a cat bothering to defend you... they are narcissistic by nature.
    They would rather run away and hide.
    Now your dog will die to defend you.
    Not mine. They act like they're half dog. One of them makes the funniest sound when someone knocks on the door. It's guttural; almost like a bark.
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  24. #21
    Quote Originally Posted by LibertyEagle View Post
    Not mine. They act like they're half dog. One of them makes the funniest sound when someone knocks on the door. It's guttural; almost like a bark.
    I will have to see a cat sacrifice itself for its owner before i'd believe it.
    All the cats i've seen are solitary by nature, and self-serving in its very existence.
    They are not pack animals, and if they are hissing at strangers, its because there see a threat to their food supply, not because they are concerned for your safety.
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    When a cat is rubbing up against your leg- remember- it is not doing it because it thinks it makes you feel good. It is doing it because it feels good to the itself.
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  26. #23
    Cats are lame. I'd be less likely to kill you over my cat.



    Don't $#@! with him, though

  27. #24
    Quote Originally Posted by torchbearer View Post
    I will have to see a cat sacrifice itself for its owner before i'd believe it.
    All the cats i've seen are solitary by nature, and self-serving in its very existence.
    They are not pack animals, and if they are hissing at strangers, its because there see a threat to their food supply, not because they are concerned for your safety.
    I've had both cats and dogs. Also horses.

    I've found that each one is unique and each has a unique personality. The bond that you make with each one is dependent upon the amount of effort you put into knowing them.

    When I had cats as a kid, I had the same experience as you with cats. But later, I discovered something quite different. They do however take more time to get to know than a dog. Dogs are easy, as they are fairly servile. Lots of people aren't willing to put in the time necessary, with a cat.

    When a cat is rubbing up against your leg- remember- it is not doing it because it thinks it makes you feel good. It is doing it because it feels good to the itself.
    That's interesting, but mine don't do that. Probably because they have dry food out all the time and don't need to kiss up to me to be fed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rael View Post
    So you dog is equally valubale as your tv or stereo?
    I don't have a dog currently, for full disclosure. I might consider it more valuable than my other property, but I'd have a hard time seeing myself killing someone over it. People are just far more valuable than animals, in my view.
    “If you're on the wrong road, progress means doing an about-turn and walking back to the right road; in that case, the man who turns back soonest is the most progressive.” -CS Lewis

    The use of force to impose morality is itself immoral, and generosity with others' money is still theft.

    If our society were a forum, congress would be the illiterate troll that somehow got a hold of the only ban hammer.

  31. #27
    Quote Originally Posted by LibertyEagle View Post
    I've had both cats and dogs. Also horses.

    I've found that each one is unique and each has a unique personality. The bond that you make with each one is dependent upon the amount of effort you put into knowing them.

    When I had cats as a kid, I had the same experience as you with cats. But later, I discovered something quite different. They do however take more time to get to know than a dog. Dogs are easy, as they are fairly servile. Lots of people aren't willing to put in the time necessary, with a cat.



    That's interesting, but mine don't do that.
    Yeah, growing up on the farm... i didn't have much else to do but observe animal behavior.
    Of course, cats on the farm live in the barns.
    They are closer to the natural state.

    I'm not speaking of exceptions, but the natural rule with the breed of animal.
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  32. #28
    Quote Originally Posted by LibertyEagle View Post
    I've had both cats and dogs. Also horses.

    I've found that each one is unique and each has a unique personality. The bond that you make with each one is dependent upon the amount of effort you put into knowing them.

    When I had cats as a kid, I had the same experience as you with cats. But later, I discovered something quite different. They do however take more time to get to know than a dog. Dogs are easy, as they are fairly servile. Lots of people aren't willing to put in the time necessary, with a cat.



    That's interesting, but mine don't do that. Probably because they have dry food out all the time and don't need to kiss up to me to be fed.
    Cats seem to have a much wider variety of personalities than dogs

  33. #29
    Quote Originally Posted by Rael View Post
    Cats seem to have a much wider variety of personalities than dogs
    dog personalities(in nature) are almost totally related to the breed.
    I find cats (in nature) are more consistent regardless of breed.
    Last edited by torchbearer; 03-07-2009 at 02:49 PM.
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  34. #30
    Quote Originally Posted by Rael View Post
    Cats seem to have a much wider variety of personalities than dogs
    Yeah, the cats I have right now are litter mates and their personalities are almost polar opposites of one another.
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