What state would you move to, and why?
Here's what I would like:
Gun friendly state
Land for farming and hunting
I'd like to avoid extreme weather conditions, especially in the winter. Though this isn't an absolute necessity.
"They [the Soviets] intend...to induce the Americans to adopt their own 'restructuring' and convergence of the Soviet and American systems ... Convergence will be accompanied by blood baths and political re-education camps in Western Europe and the United States. The Soviet strategists are counting on an economic depression in the United States and intend to introduce their reformed model of socialism with a human face as an alternative to the American system during the depression."Anatoliy Golitsyn The Perestroika Deception 1990
Do you have children or intend on having any? You will want to consider states that support homeschooling.Originally Posted by ihsv
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What do you consider extreme?
As far as I know every place has weather, and at times extreme weather.
Liberty is lost through complacency and a subservient mindset. When we accept or even welcome automobile checkpoints, random searches, mandatory identification cards, and paramilitary police in our streets, we have lost a vital part of our American heritage. America was born of protest, revolution, and mistrust of government. Subservient societies neither maintain nor deserve freedom for long.
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Moostraks,
Yes, homeschooling is vital.
pcosmar,
By "extreme", I mean Alaska winter-type extreme. -40 below is bad.
"They [the Soviets] intend...to induce the Americans to adopt their own 'restructuring' and convergence of the Soviet and American systems ... Convergence will be accompanied by blood baths and political re-education camps in Western Europe and the United States. The Soviet strategists are counting on an economic depression in the United States and intend to introduce their reformed model of socialism with a human face as an alternative to the American system during the depression."Anatoliy Golitsyn The Perestroika Deception 1990
Ah, Extreme cold.Moostraks,
Yes, homeschooling is vital.
pcosmar,
By "extreme", I mean Alaska winter-type extreme. -40 below is bad.
We have sub zero weather here, But then many would consider 90F to 100F degrees extreme.
Also through the Midwest there are common Tornadoes. Now those are extreme.
living in the Florida Keys, we had hurricanes. Some might find 120 mph wind extreme.
Not trying to be difficult, just trying to narrow it down.
Liberty is lost through complacency and a subservient mindset. When we accept or even welcome automobile checkpoints, random searches, mandatory identification cards, and paramilitary police in our streets, we have lost a vital part of our American heritage. America was born of protest, revolution, and mistrust of government. Subservient societies neither maintain nor deserve freedom for long.
Ron Paul 2004
Registered Ron Paul supporter # 2202
It's all about Freedom
Ok, here's what I'm looking for:
1) I'd like to avoid intense cold, such as the -20/-40 below zero. If that kind of cold occurs on a few days out of the year, I can deal with that.
2) Hurricanes and tornadoes can be dealt with; not overly concerned with them.
3) I'd like to avoid hot (100+ degrees), humid summers. If it's dry and hot, that can be dealt with.
Also, the main jist of the thread was where would you move to, and why.
"They [the Soviets] intend...to induce the Americans to adopt their own 'restructuring' and convergence of the Soviet and American systems ... Convergence will be accompanied by blood baths and political re-education camps in Western Europe and the United States. The Soviet strategists are counting on an economic depression in the United States and intend to introduce their reformed model of socialism with a human face as an alternative to the American system during the depression."Anatoliy Golitsyn The Perestroika Deception 1990
I'm staying in TN.
High sales tax though but no state income tax.
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You can discover what your enemy fears most by observing the means he uses to frighten you. -- Eric Hoffer
I've always liked Seattle.
The politics probably aren't perfect but the weather isn't bad.
If I ever left Texas, I would go to Montana.
The ultimate minority is the individual. Protect the individual from Democracy and you will protect all groups of individualsRightful liberty is unobstructed action according to our will within limits drawn around us by the equal rights of others. I do not add 'within the limits of the law' because law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the rights of the individual. - Thomas JeffersonI must not fear. Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain.
- Bene Gesserit Litany Against Fear
I'll probably be moving to New Hampshire (for obvious reasons?) if I'm rejected by the employer I'm seeking when I have the required skills.
I don't think I would leave Texas. If I had to, I would probably go abroad. If I had to stay in the US, it would be Montana, NH, or VT.
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Out of every one hundred men they send us, ten should not even be here. Eighty will do nothing but serve as targets for the enemy. Nine are real fighters, and we are lucky to have them, upon them depends our success in battle. But one, ah the one, he is a real warrior, and he will bring the others back from battle alive.
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Montana and Wyoming are very similar ideologically, although Wyoming has a bit more of an entrenched GOP establishment to contend with. My 'move to a different state if I had to' plan, is to live in Wyoming (with no income tax) on the border with Montana (with no sales tax)
BOTH states are liable to bolt the union if guns are outlawed.
http://glenbradley.net/share/aleksan...nitsyn_4-t.gif And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if every Security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive and had to say good-bye to his family? Or if, during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat there in their lairs, paling with terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand?... The Organs would very quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and, notwithstanding all of Stalin's thirst, the cursed machine would have ground to a halt! If...if...We didn't love freedom enough. And even more we had no awareness of the real situation.... We purely and simply deserved everything that happened afterward. ― Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn
I looked at gun laws and medical marijuana.
"I know the urge to arm yourself, because thats what I did. I was trained in firearms. When I walked to the hospital when my husband was sick, I carried a concealed weapon. I made the determination that if somebody was going to try to take me out I was going to take them with me."
Diane Feinstein, 1995
You can have one ounce of mary jane legally in Mississippi.I looked at gun laws and medical marijuana.
rewritten history with armies of their crooks - invented memories, did burn all the books... Mark Knopfler
I can't move for another few years. I got to have a plan.
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I'm moving to the suburbs of Tulsa, Oklahoma in a little over a year. Very conservative state, lots of homeschoolers, good economy, lots of farmland. Tulsa could get dangerous, but like I said, I'm going to stay in the burbs.
You need to have 3 plans in that case - (1) What to do if it happens today (2) What is the desired permanent survival plan (3) the plan for how Plan 1 becomes Plan 2.
Out of every one hundred men they send us, ten should not even be here. Eighty will do nothing but serve as targets for the enemy. Nine are real fighters, and we are lucky to have them, upon them depends our success in battle. But one, ah the one, he is a real warrior, and he will bring the others back from battle alive.
Duty is the most sublime word in the English language. Do your duty in all things. You can not do more than your duty. You should never wish to do less than your duty.
In the North East I would move to rural PA, low Sales tax and cheap property and insurance. If out West maybe Montana or Nebraska. And for the South maybe Georgia or Tennessee.
Weather/Climate for me isn't a problem.
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---John Adam
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---Thomas Jefferson
New hampshire or district 14 in texas!
New Hampshire is the free state.
I tried to move there several years ago, had a job interview but it fell through.
Then I married a southernor...
Definition of political insanity: Voting for the same people expecting different results.
Arizona has medical MJ, easy gun laws, and not much winter except in the mountains. Unfortunately, we don't have much water and that makes farming a challenge.I looked at gun laws and medical marijuana.
Ron Paul's district in Texas.
Second choice, Montana.
I think the free state project made a miscalculation on New Jersey. The campaign nomination results were shocking to say the least.
This is assuming this move is not for survival.
Western Montana.
West Montana has more mild winters than east, because the mountains tend to hold the cold to the east. West Montana is also cooler in the summer.
There's plenty of mountains to play (or hide) in.
Lots of farmland.
Good liberty loving people.
Easy access to Canada if things get REALLY bad. (ie it's no longer safe even to hide in the mountains)
Lots of minerals and metals to mine.
"No matter how noble you try to make it, your good intentions will not compensate for the mistakes that people make; that want to run
our lives and run the economy, and reject the principles of private property and making up our own decisions for ourselves." -Ron Paul
Yeah, I've been kind of eyeing western Montana, too.
"They [the Soviets] intend...to induce the Americans to adopt their own 'restructuring' and convergence of the Soviet and American systems ... Convergence will be accompanied by blood baths and political re-education camps in Western Europe and the United States. The Soviet strategists are counting on an economic depression in the United States and intend to introduce their reformed model of socialism with a human face as an alternative to the American system during the depression."Anatoliy Golitsyn The Perestroika Deception 1990
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