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    Is there a list of all the ridiculous Pork that was included in the stimulus?

    I hear people talking about the ridiculous pork in the bill including, endangered mice, elderly nutrition etc.

    Where can i find a list of all these things, or can you guys list off some of the worst ones?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ClayTrainor View Post
    Is there a list of all the ridiculous Pork that was included in the stimulus?

    I hear people talking about the ridiculous pork in the bill including, endangered mice, elderly nutrition etc.

    Where can i find a list of all these things, or can you guys list off some of the worst ones?
    A $787 billion stimulus is enough to be against it without even reading it.

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    It's all pork (AKA "internal improvements") if it isn't "tax relief."

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    A $787 billion stimulus is enough to be against it without even reading it.
    A $.01 "stimulus" is enough to be against it from my POV.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nate895 View Post
    It's all pork (AKA "internal improvements") if it isn't "tax relief."



    A $.01 "stimulus" is enough to be against it from my POV.
    Yea, i hear ya but, i want a list of some of the more ridiculous things that any body can realize has nothing to do with 'Economic Stimulus'...


    i need them for a video
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    Quote Originally Posted by nate895 View Post
    It's all pork (AKA "internal improvements") if it isn't "tax relief."



    A $.01 "stimulus" is enough to be against it from my POV.
    Yep!

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    no... don't preach to the choir and say 'The Stimulus is Bad', I need a LIST OF PORK!!!





    Can anyone help me out?

    I obviously agree that the bailout is ridiculous and full of pork.. i'm interested in finding out some more of the ridiculous wastes of money, like those damn mice in cali
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    The list would be over 1000 pages.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SLSteven View Post
    The list would be over 1000 pages.
    Well... where can i find it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ClayTrainor View Post
    Well... where can i find it?
    http://www.findlaw.com


    There is everything on here that relates to law such as the US Code, etc.

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    Pork?

    What's wrong with pork?
    "They [the Soviets] intend...to induce the Americans to adopt their own 'restructuring' and convergence of the Soviet and American systems ... Convergence will be accompanied by blood baths and political re-education camps in Western Europe and the United States. The Soviet strategists are counting on an economic depression in the United States and intend to introduce their reformed model of socialism with a human face as an alternative to the American system during the depression."
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    Quote Originally Posted by ihsv View Post
    Pork?

    What's wrong with pork?
    It can lead to a heart attack.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ihsv View Post
    Pork?

    What's wrong with pork?
    Yeah, and what is wrong with a pack of cigarettes?

    If I promise to eat that pig, with you go back to cigarettes?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Danke View Post
    Yeah, and what is wrong with a pack of cigarettes?

    If I promise to eat that pig, with you go back to cigarettes?
    Nope. I like the pig. And I smoke, too
    "They [the Soviets] intend...to induce the Americans to adopt their own 'restructuring' and convergence of the Soviet and American systems ... Convergence will be accompanied by blood baths and political re-education camps in Western Europe and the United States. The Soviet strategists are counting on an economic depression in the United States and intend to introduce their reformed model of socialism with a human face as an alternative to the American system during the depression."
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    good lord can't anyone just name a few things?



    heres a few that i have found... i would like to have a list myself to print out and put on the window at work... ill do some looking and post what i find here but a little help would be nice


    NBC broke down some of the bigger numbers in the bill, for example: $275 billion in tax relief , $90 billion for infrastructure, $79 billion for school funding, etc. Sounds good, right? But in the fine print, there's a lot of proposed spending that may raise a few eyebrows. In an interview with President Barack Obama, CBS' Katie Couric called him on some of the more unusual proposals:

    - $6.2 billion for home weatherization

    - $50 million for port modernization and water and wastewater infrastructure needs in Guam

    -$100 million for children to learn green construction

    Obama defended the weatherization spending by emphasizing the long-term effects:

    "We're going to weatherize homes, that immediately puts people back to work and we're going to train people who are out of work, including young people , to do the weatherization. As a consequence of weatherization, our energy bills go down and we reduce our dependence on foreign oil. What would be a more effective stimulus package than that?"

    Fair enough. But what about the $800 million for Amtrak? Or the $150 million for the Smithsonian Institute? And there's more: So much more, in fact, that the Heritage Foundation, a conservative think tank, has set up a website that allows users to comb through the more than 900-page-long bill. You decide: Economic stimulus or wasteful spending?

    - $198 million for U.S. military benefits for Filipinos who fought for the U.S. during WWII

    - $75 million for "smoking cessation activities"

    - $87 million for the "design of a new polar icebreaker"

    - $335 million for HIV/STD screening

    - $600 million to buy hybrid vehicles for federal employees

    Whole story here...
    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ynews/ynews_pl238
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    also found this graph (which i think was posted before here)


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    Roxic... you gave me more than what i wanted... You rock
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    and heres the GOP's list:


    • $2 billion earmark to re-start FutureGen, a near-zero emissions coal power plant in Illinois that the Department of Energy defunded last year because it said the project was inefficient.
    • A $246 million tax break for Hollywood movie producers to buy motion picture film.
    • $650 million for the digital television converter box coupon program.
    • $88 million for the Coast Guard to design a new polar icebreaker (arctic ship).
    • $448 million for constructing the Department of Homeland Security headquarters.
    • $248 million for furniture at the new Homeland Security headquarters.
    • $600 million to buy hybrid vehicles for federal employees.
    • $400 million for the Centers for Disease Control to screen and prevent STD's.
    • $1.4 billion for rural waste disposal programs.
    • $125 million for the Washington sewer system.
    • $150 million for Smithsonian museum facilities.
    • $1 billion for the 2010 Census, which has a projected cost overrun of $3 billion.
    • $75 million for "smoking cessation activities."
    • $200 million for public computer centers at community colleges.
    • $75 million for salaries of employees at the FBI.
    • $25 million for tribal alcohol and substance abuse reduction.
    • $500 million for flood reduction projects on the Mississippi River.
    • $10 million to inspect canals in urban areas.
    • $6 billion to turn federal buildings into "green" buildings.
    • $500 million for state and local fire stations.
    • $650 million for wild land fire management on forest service lands.
    • $1.2 billion for "youth activities," including youth summer job programs.
    • $88 million for renovating the headquarters of the Public Health Service.
    • $412 million for CDC buildings and property.
    • $500 million for building and repairing National Institutes of Health facilities in Bethesda, Maryland.
    • $160 million for "paid volunteers" at the Corporation for National and Community Service.
    • $5.5 million for "energy efficiency initiatives" at the Department of Veterans Affairs National Cemetery Administration.
    • $850 million for Amtrak.
    • $100 million for reducing the hazard of lead-based paint.
    • $75 million to construct a "security training" facility for State Department Security officers when they can be trained at existing facilities of other agencies.
    • $110 million to the Farm Service Agency to upgrade computer systems.
    • $200 million in funding for the lease of alternative energy vehicles for use on military installations.




    edit: also found this
    "a proposed $20 million minor league baseball museum in Durham, North Carolina;
    $6.1 million for corporate jet hangars at the Fayetteville, Arkansas, airport;
    $20 million for renovations at the Philadelphia Zoo;
    $1.5 million program to reduce prostitution in Dayton, Ohio."





    edit: and this list (may be some duplicates)
    $544 billion in new spending

    $125 billion for public education including $20 billion for school renovations and $79 billion to avoid education related layoffs

    $87 billion for Medicaid

    $30 billion goes to road projects

    $27 billion to continue unemployment insurance benefits

    $20 billion for food stamps

    $8 billion for renewable energies

    $7 billion for modernizing federal buildings

    $6 billion for mass transit

    $5 billion for for the construction and repair of public housing

    $4 billion for community activist programs such as ACORN

    $2 billion for child care subsidies

    $650 million for coupons for digital TV conversions

    $400 million for global warming research

    $335 million for STD prevention

    $50 million for National Endowment of the Arts

    * Republicans pushed the Democrats into dropping money for family planning and restoration of the National Mall
    * The WSJ estimates that just 12% of the package could be considered a growth stimulus

    $275 billion in new tax cuts

    $145 billion: Tax cuts for 95% of working Americans, $500 for individuals, $1000 for couples and small business for 2 years

    $23 billion: $1000 per child tax credit

    $20 billion for company equipment write offs

    $16 billion in “green” tax credits

    $10 billion: $2500 credit for college

    $6.9 billion for homeowner tax credits

    • $2 billion earmark to re-start FutureGen, a near-zero emissions coal power plant in Illinois that the Department of Energy defunded last year because it said the project was inefficient.

    • A $246 million tax break for Hollywood movie producers to buy motion picture film.

    • $650 million for the digital television converter box coupon program.

    • $88 million for the Coast Guard to design a new polar icebreaker (arctic ship).

    • $448 million for constructing the Department of Homeland Security headquarters.

    • $248 million for furniture at the new Homeland Security headquarters.

    • $600 million to buy hybrid vehicles for federal employees.

    • $400 million for the Centers for Disease Control to screen and prevent STD's.

    • $1.4 billion for rural waste disposal programs.
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    * GOP senators draft stimulus alternative

    • $125 million for the Washington sewer system.

    • $150 million for Smithsonian museum facilities.

    • $1 billion for the 2010 Census, which has a projected cost overrun of $3 billion.

    • $75 million for "smoking cessation activities."

    • $200 million for public computer centers at community colleges.

    • $75 million for salaries of employees at the FBI.

    • $25 million for tribal alcohol and substance abuse reduction.

    • $500 million for flood reduction projects on the Mississippi River.

    • $10 million to inspect canals in urban areas.

    • $6 billion to turn federal buildings into "green" buildings.

    • $500 million for state and local fire stations.

    • $650 million for wildland fire management on forest service lands.

    • $1.2 billion for "youth activities," including youth summer job programs.

    • $88 million for renovating the headquarters of the Public Health Service.

    • $412 million for CDC buildings and property.

    • $500 million for building and repairing National Institutes of Health facilities in Bethesda, Maryland.

    • $160 million for "paid volunteers" at the Corporation for National and Community Service.

    • $5.5 million for "energy efficiency initiatives" at the Department of Veterans Affairs National Cemetery Administration.

    • $850 million for Amtrak.

    • $100 million for reducing the hazard of lead-based paint.

    • $75 million to construct a "security training" facility for State Department Security officers when they can be trained at existing facilities of other agencies.

    • $110 million to the Farm Service Agency to upgrade computer systems.

    • $200 million in funding for the lease of alternative energy vehicles for use on military installation








    and heres the whole bill : hthttp://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c111:H.R.1:
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    Perfect!

    Exactly what i need :cheers:
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    Summer Jazz concert program in DC.

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    Our military is not defense ... it is warmongering and empire building.
    Government police do not protect ... they control.
    Regulations do not regulate ... they protect the status quo.
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    Reminds me of the parade they have in St. Paul called the Grand Old Day Parade. Check out this years theme;

    All participants (floats, walkers, bands, etc.) must incorporate the parade theme – IT’S GRAND BEING GREEN - in their music, float design and/or costumes. Use your imagination: use recyclable materials to build your float, have recycled or re-used products on your float, walk or bike instead of riding, find costumes at a second hand store, emphasize your organization’s environmentally friendly efforts – use your creativity! All floats or units are encouraged to have an entertaining and crowd pleasing float.
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    He told reporters at his transition office that his package will set a "new higher standard of accountability, transparency and oversight. We are going to ban all earmarks, the process by which individual members insert projects without review."
    http://www.newsobserver.com/business/story/1357260.html

    CNN: Pelosi to Wolf Blitzer: I promise no pork in the stimulus
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    . . Stimulus Watch - and you get the fun of voting on stuff (not that they're going to listen to you)
    NC doesn't need ThomTillis as the Republican nominee for US Senate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ClayTrainor View Post
    Roxic... you gave me more than what i wanted... You rock

    thanks! have fun making the vid! can't wait to see it.






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