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    Hit 'em while it hurts! AZ & NH

    AZ declares sovereignty, they can take care of their own immigrants

    http://www.azleg.gov/FormatDocument....s/hcr2024p.htm

    New Hampshire cites Jeffersonian States' Rights
    http://www.gencourt.state.nh.us/legi...9/HCR0006.html



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    MO has a bill in for sovereignty

    http://www.house.mo.gov/content.aspx...ills/HR212.HTM

    Some C4L and Republican Liberty Caucus I know went to the hearing yesterday (02/04).

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    Sweet!
    "They [the Soviets] intend...to induce the Americans to adopt their own 'restructuring' and convergence of the Soviet and American systems ... Convergence will be accompanied by blood baths and political re-education camps in Western Europe and the United States. The Soviet strategists are counting on an economic depression in the United States and intend to introduce their reformed model of socialism with a human face as an alternative to the American system during the depression."
    Anatoliy Golitsyn The Perestroika Deception 1990


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    Does this mean I'm no longer a citizen of the "United States" being born in Arizona?

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    No, more specifically what that means is that you are a State Citizen. Only State Citizens have Constitutional Rights. US citizens do not. They get "civil liberties". So the next time you hear it on the news, you'll know the difference, even if they do not tell you what that difference is as most of the time they wont understand that themselves.
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    Belief, Money, and Violence are the three ways all people are controlled

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    That's a pretty awesome bill.

    Has it already been voted on or not?

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    Hey, people. I'm not going to let you get away with not giving credit where due. Put Oklahoma on that list!! We only started it...
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    You only want the freedoms that will undermine the nation and lead to the destruction of liberty.



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    Very interesting. Who submitted this bill and what support do they have for it. When will it be voted on if ever?

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    This is basically a secession from Federal government right?
    But a Constitution of Government once changed from Freedom, can never be restored. Liberty, once lost, is lost forever.
    ---John Adam

    If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks, and the corporations which grow up around them, will deprive the people of all property until their children wake up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered.
    ---Thomas Jefferson

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    Quote Originally Posted by PatriotLegion View Post
    This is basically a secession from Federal government right?
    Not really. Just a reaffirmation of the Tenth Amendment. A line in the sand which we hope they'll stand by.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    You only want the freedoms that will undermine the nation and lead to the destruction of liberty.

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    Which the federal government will ignore... then what?

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    Quote Originally Posted by demolama View Post
    Which the federal government will ignore... then what?
    unleash the desert variety bunchies. They be tough!
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    Hit 'em while it hurts! AZ & NH

    Absolutely. Again and again, the People do not press their advantages.

    As well, I have been considering how the People run things up the flagpole sequentially . . . swat, that one down, swat, that one shelved . . . whereas the governments foray into our private lives is multi-pronged, simultaneous and sustained. Natch, look how many BUREAUCRATS they have to bring to bear on mischief, while you're working to pay the taxes that make the hamster wheel turn, or sleeping so that you can work and pay taxes again tomorrow.

    When I first heard about the Jefferson Project, I thought and said that trying to get one new state rather than several seceded states would be more tenable. I think differently, now. I think, now, that multiple states pushing for greater sovereignty (NOT secession), PLUS Jefferson as a 51st state -- maybe also a 52nd, if it's logical for balance -- a full court press. FLOOD them with petitions and legal actions. WHOLESALE objection to Business As Usual.

    It's like the whack-a-mole game. They have limited resources, too. They cannot repel everything . . . what would the neighbors think?

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    Quote Originally Posted by demolama View Post
    Which the federal government will ignore... then what?
    exactly, let's see them fight DEA and IRS and FBI when they come in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hillbilly123069 View Post
    Does this mean I'm no longer a citizen of the "United States" being born in Arizona?
    The US government will be happy to make you a citizen, whether AZ recognizes it is another issue.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Josh_LA View Post
    exactly, let's see them fight DEA and IRS and FBI when they come in.
    The county sheriff has supreme rule over any federal agencies and their actions in said county.Several states have had State Supreme Court decisions since George went into office.The last I heard of was Wyoming.

    http://www.fourwinds10.com/siterun_d...p?q=1206929053
    Last edited by hillbilly123069; 02-05-2009 at 02:13 PM.

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    Hey, people. I'm not going to let you get away with not giving credit where due. Put Oklahoma on that list!! We only started it...
    I thought Montana did with no new federal gun laws will apply here law.

    serioulsy either way thanks to both states and kick ass for doing it.

    Let go State's!!! look btwn the legs and find the sack!!!
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    Count Louisiana in.

    §26. State Sovereignty

    Section 26. The people of this state have the sole and exclusive right of governing themselves as a free and sovereign state; and do, and forever hereafter shall, exercise and enjoy every power, jurisdiction, and right, pertaining thereto, which is not, or may not hereafter be, by them expressly delegated to the United States of America in congress assembled.

    Acts 1997, No. 1494, §1, approved Oct. 3, 1998, eff. Nov. 5, 1998.

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    Talking Oh, happy, happy day

    How pleased I am to learn about the several states taking a stand. Yeehaw!

    I shall be onto my Governor's website and asking for my state to kneel no more!!

    Thank you, Smart States.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mellamojuana View Post
    How pleased I am to learn about the several states taking a stand. Yeehaw!

    I shall be onto my Governor's website and asking for my state to kneel no more!!

    Thank you, Smart States.
    You're welcome!
    Quote Originally Posted by Torchbearer
    what works can never be discussed online. there is only one language the government understands, and until the people start speaking it by the magazine full... things will remain the same.
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