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Thread: Has the Bill of Rights weakened the American citizenry?

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    Lightbulb Has the Bill of Rights weakened the American citizenry?

    I am finishing up reading the Federalist Papers and #84 (Hamilton) got me thinking. Has the Bill of Rights weakened the power American citizenry and has it actually hampered in the preservation of its inalienable rights?

    At the time of the Constitution's ratification, it was well-understood that the people surrender nothing to the federal government, that was not explicitly enumerated. As Hamilton writes (my italics):

    It has been several times truly remarked that bills of rights are, in their origin, stipulations between kings and their subjects, abridgements of prerogative in favor of privilege, reservations of rights not surrendered to the prince. Such was MAGNA CHARTA, obtained by the barons, sword in hand, from King John. Such were the subsequent confirmations of that charter by succeeding princes. Such was the PETITION OF RIGHT assented to by Charles I., in the beginning of his reign. Such, also, was the Declaration of Right presented by the Lords and Commons to the Prince of Orange in 1688, and afterwards thrown into the form of an act of parliament called the Bill of Rights. It is evident, therefore, that, according to their primitive signification, they have no application to constitutions professedly founded upon the power of the people, and executed by their immediate representatives and servants. Here, in strictness, the people surrender nothing; and as they retain every thing they have no need of particular reservations. "WE, THE PEOPLE of the United States, to secure the blessings of liberty to ourselves and our posterity, do ORDAIN and ESTABLISH this Constitution for the United States of America.'' Here is a better recognition of popular rights, than volumes of those aphorisms which make the principal figure in several of our State bills of rights, and which would sound much better in a treatise of ethics than in a constitution of government.

    I have no hard time resonating with the Anti-Federalist arguments in favor of a bill of rights. History shows that governments often become tyrannical and began picking off rights from the people, so I understand the fear, and the protection that the Bill of Rights affords. But do we then become weak and passive to our rights, assuming that a piece of paper will protect them? that nothing more is needed from us?

    Hamilton warns of a danger:

    [A bill of rights] would contain various exceptions to powers not granted; and, on this very account, would afford a colorable pretext to claim more than were granted. For why declare that things shall not be done which there is no power to do? Why, for instance, should it be said that the liberty of the press shall not be restrained, when no power is given by which restrictions may be imposed? I will not contend that such a provision would confer a regulating power; but it is evident that it would furnish, to men disposed to usurp, a plausible pretense for claiming that power. They might urge with a semblance of reason, that the Constitution ought not to be charged with the absurdity of providing against the abuse of an authority which was not given, and that the provision against restraining the liberty of the press afforded a clear implication, that a power to prescribe proper regulations concerning it was intended to be vested in the national government. This may serve as a specimen of the numerous handles which would be given to the doctrine of constructive powers, by the indulgence of an injudicious zeal for bills of rights.

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    What is the liberty of the press? Who can give it any definition which would not leave the utmost latitude for evasion? I hold it to be impracticable; and from this I infer, that its security, whatever fine declarations may be inserted in any constitution respecting it, must altogether depend on public opinion, and on the general spirit of the people and of the government.3 And here, after all, as is intimated upon another occasion, must we seek for the only solid basis of all our rights.
    Truth forever on the scaffold, Wrong forever on the throne,--
    Yet that scaffold sways the future, and, behind the dim unknown,
    Standeth God within the shadow, keeping watch above his own.
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    One bump, that is all, I promise. Any opinions?
    Truth forever on the scaffold, Wrong forever on the throne,--
    Yet that scaffold sways the future, and, behind the dim unknown,
    Standeth God within the shadow, keeping watch above his own.
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    It sure didn't stop Hamilton from sparking the Whiskey rebellion and subsequent suppression of rights by "Light Horse" Harry Lee and General Washington.
    Last edited by Kludge; 02-03-2009 at 03:24 PM. Reason: Did anyone actually die at the Whiskey Rebellion?? I can't find a source and can't recall

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    This is a very old, and interesting debate. The problem is not so much the bill of rights (as they are quite well written), but that the State has been allowed to infringe on these rights(and others) for so long, that government no longer has a conscience. And people let it happen! :P Tremendous failure on both ends. (IMHO)
    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Paul
    The government is incapable of doing what it's supposed to do. A job like the provision of security is something best left to private institutions.
    My music/art page is here"government is the enemy of liberty"-RP
    That which doesn't kill me has made a grave tactical error
    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    This whole board is a thoughtcrime in progress.


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