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Force always attracts men of low morality. – Albert Einstein
Government is essentially the negation of liberty. – Ludwig von Mises
The great non-sequitur committed by defenders of the State, including classical Aristotelian and Thomist philosophers, is to leap from the necessity of society to the necessity of the State. - Murray N. Rothbard
religion could be individualistic if it didn't have monolithic governing bodies who turn the path of searching into a side show with freaks for their empowerment.
Imagine, everyone on their own independent journeys of search for truths... meeting only to exchange ideas....
rewritten history with armies of their crooks - invented memories, did burn all the books... Mark Knopfler
So, now that we've established you can be christian, atheist, libertarian, republican, old, young, republicrat , black, green or purple ....AND you can Not rightly say all of one Particular group hates freedom. Then we can call BS on this thread and its motive.
Sounds like a hate troller.
Becuase you watch a T.V preacher, you can judge a faith...?
Well i hope People dont look at this one thread and think Every Ron paul follower is this divisive, this ignorant and self centered.
There's a big world out there... The ron paul movement welcomes you, but please, sit in the back and keep quiet during class.
Hating/categorizing a group of highly devoted and powerful individuals WHILE bashing their faith.....
You know? why didn't i think of that? That's what ron paul should have done, Im sure Thats what he would be proud of. What all his hard work has produced.
Faith or not, That's just rude.
Really, thanks for exercising your 1rst amendment rights, but there are other forums that would welcome your non-informative, skewered anti-liberty movement opinion.
Christians in the Republican party can be persuaded. The way to approach them is this way:
Tell them that you cannot legislate morality through the government, that it is the job of the church and the community to reach out to those in need. Let them know you think their goals are noble, but ultimately it hurts their cause if they are trying to force their values on others.
They will be able to sympathize if you remind them that by backing liberty they will keep government out of their lives and that they would have free choice of schools, and their tax dollars would not go to immoral programs.
This approach works. The thing is, they are good people, who do want to do the right thing, so if you are not putting down their values they will see the light.
rewritten history with armies of their crooks - invented memories, did burn all the books... Mark Knopfler
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rewritten history with armies of their crooks - invented memories, did burn all the books... Mark Knopfler
didnt read all the replies, but from my own experience, one must seperate the implied "christian" message/support from so called candidate that decides to use "christian language" or "christian words" to get their stance across....truth or lie.
my mom and dad voted for McCain even though i always spoke of ron pauls message. they took McCain because during his debat with Obama, he stated that he was saved and believed in God, where as obama didnt really say so one way or the other.... Until that moment, they were unsure. thats all it took.
sad
Paul believes in god, but didnt push the fact because it has not much bearing or should have much bearing on the fight for our country. plus paul doesnt play the whole" christian" suck up game.
Woah..... atheist $#@!s with a God complex, wtf? Should've joined earlier. Let it all out LE. Whatever, this thread was asking for more BS with a title like this though. Would've been interesting to see the gay vs. "Christians" battle. Anyway, Christianity isn't gonna disappear common it's seriously a ridiculously prominent majority. Even Mexicans are Christian for the most part. Hey, atleast we aren't Canada didn't they kick the protestants out sometime ago in their history.
Believe your Justice.-Metal Wolf Chaos
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Open Borders: A Libertarian Reappraisal or why only dumbasses and cultural marxists are for it.
Cultural Marxism: The Corruption of America
The Property Basis of Rights
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Pandora's box is not only open but its sides have been split with a razor and it now resides in a dumpster.
Hey, I wasn't around in the old days of God complex atheists. I prefer to jump in to threads if I have to hear crap about what my beliefs are same as you. But whatever I can see the christians driving the gays away from the movement, and then the Christians getting driven away by the backlash like Torch said. If it was more complex than that, I don't know.
Believe your Justice.-Metal Wolf Chaos
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Open Borders: A Libertarian Reappraisal or why only dumbasses and cultural marxists are for it.
Cultural Marxism: The Corruption of America
The Property Basis of Rights
Those people to me don't have a set belief, anyway. They'll use whatever force they can religion or not. If your churches want to join them....great. If they don't.....sucks for them.
Believe your Justice.-Metal Wolf Chaos
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Open Borders: A Libertarian Reappraisal or why only dumbasses and cultural marxists are for it.
Cultural Marxism: The Corruption of America
The Property Basis of Rights
I haven't read this whole thread but it would help if y'all weren't so anti-Christian. It's really effing tiresome. In a country where more than 80% are some form of Christian you'd think those with anti-Christian views would keep their mouths shut in order to help their cause.
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Open Borders: A Libertarian Reappraisal or why only dumbasses and cultural marxists are for it.
Cultural Marxism: The Corruption of America
The Property Basis of Rights
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Open Borders: A Libertarian Reappraisal or why only dumbasses and cultural marxists are for it.
Cultural Marxism: The Corruption of America
The Property Basis of Rights
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Open Borders: A Libertarian Reappraisal or why only dumbasses and cultural marxists are for it.
Cultural Marxism: The Corruption of America
The Property Basis of Rights
Well, I did actually vote for Chuck
Believe your Justice.-Metal Wolf Chaos
because we arent afraid of Emmanuel Goldstein... um.. I mean Osama Bin Laden.
This is the one thing that I envy about the Democrats. No stupid bickering over religious stuff on that side.
I think it's a mutual amount of hate. The GOP has been flat out hijacked by the bible thumpers. They used to be just one of many groups that made up the party. Now they are the party. The GOP is no longer the big tent party and this is exactly why. The evangelicals, as a whole, shun any one that doesn't wear their religion on the sleeve and doesnt support the religious agenda as the platform of the GOP. They simply don't want "non-believers" in "their party". Ive seen the comments across the net way too many times to have any other opinion. Of course there are exceptions to this rule and many of those exceptions are members here. Unfortunately, you are the minority. And as a non-religious person, so am I.
"Let it not be said that we did nothing."-Ron Paul
"We have set them on the hobby-horse of an idea about the absorption of individuality by the symbolic unit of COLLECTIVISM. They have never yet and they never will have the sense to reflect that this hobby-horse is a manifest violation of the most important law of nature, which has established from the very creation of the world one unit unlike another and precisely for the purpose of instituting individuality."- A Quote From Some Old Book
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