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    Default During the first year of the Great Depression unemployment was lower than in 2007

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    During that first year it wasn't yet the "Great Depression".

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    And in 1930 they weren't even cooking the numbers yet like they do today.
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    Inflation goes to sellers, not to the Fed. If inflation is two percent, the person you buy something from is charging you two percent more. He gets that money- not the Fed.
    The seller has to pay more 'dollars' to cover his expenses, and his expenses 'went up' because the dollar is worth less than it was yesterday, but it's the seller who raised the price--and the poor, beleaguered Fed and the banks that own it didn't get richer devaluing the 'dollar' by printing more of them.

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    Oh yeah, our unemployment numbers are cooked. Completely cooked, fried, rolled over in batter and fried again. Unemployment numbers only account for the number of people actually collecting unemployment, it does not account for those who's unemployment has run out and they were not able to find a new job. Put the real number around 10 - 20% depending on where you live.
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    The NOV 08 jobless rate would have bolted to 8% for the month if not for the exodus of 422,000 people from the work force for any number of reasons going back to school, retiring or simply abandoning job searches out of frustration. When people stop looking, they're no longer counted in the unemployment rate.

    This means with 533K lost , but 422K removed because they have given up looking for a job are removed:

    True number of UNEMPLOYED for NOV: 955,000!

    HOLY SHAM-WOW Batman!

    The rate was at 4.7 percent just one year ago, 6.5 percent in October.

    Employment shrank in virtually every part of the economy factories, construction companies, financial firms, accounting and bookkeeping, architectural and engineering firms, hotels and motels, food services, retailers, temporary help, transportation, publishing, janitorial and building maintenance, and even waste management. The few fields spared included education, health care and government.

    The United States already in recession for a year plus, may not be out of it until the spring of 2010 making for the longest downturn since the Great Depression of the 1930s, economists are now saying. Recessions in the mid-1970s and early 1980s last 16 months.

    Unemployment peaked at 10.8 percent in 1982, terrible but still a far cry from the Depression, when roughly one in four Americans were out of work.

    That said, more pain is certainly in store. Fresh evidence of the Tsunami to Hit:

    A record one in 10 American homeowners with a mortgage was either at least a month behind on payments or in foreclosure at the end of September, the Mortgage Bankers Association reported.

    General Motors, already pleading with Congress for billions of dollars to survive the month, said it would lay off an additional 2,000 workers as it cuts shifts at three car factories starting in February due to slowing demand for GM cars.

    President George W. Bush aka DUBYA, who used the word "recession" for the first time on Friday to describe the economy's state, pledged to explore more efforts to ease housing, credit and financial stresses.

    "There is still more work to do," Bush said. "My administration is committed to ensuring that our economy succeeds."

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    Worst is over according to CNBC

    Found CNBC's reporting on this matter disgusting they were talking about how 6.7 unemployment was good thing and the worst was over. Yeah that would explain why there is 20k job counts that day alone from major coporations

    Cramer who was calling a prolonged recession last week changed his tune and was calling for bull market and housing prices hitting bottom (just last week he said it would not bottom till June 09) Getting the feeling that GE is trying use CNBC as a way to create a rally in the markets to save its own hide (GE capital).

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    todays rate is being compared to 1974... and there are more layoffs on the horizon...

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    Lower right corner of this table says 12.5% (U-6), U-3 is the BS number they give to the media...

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    Quote Originally Posted by HOLLYWOOD View Post
    When people stop looking, they're no longer counted in the unemployment rate.
    Uh, how the heck do they determine who is looking and who isn't looking?

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    For a few days lately I actually heard a few newscasters cite the number of people collecting unemployment insurance, not the "percentage unemployed."

    I thought, "Wow. How refreshingly honest."
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    Quote Originally Posted by RickyJ View Post
    Uh, how the heck do they determine who is looking and who isn't looking?
    To draw unemployment, at least here in Texas, you must provide 3 places of employment where you submitted a resume or sought work. You do this on a bi-weekly schedule. Failure to do so and you drop from the system for the following time frame.

    For one reason or another, 422,000 individuals, who had previously filed for unemployment, dropped from the system during the month of November. Had they not done so, the unemployment number for November would have risen to 7% instead of the 6.7% which was reported.

    Theoretically, the government could drop "unemployment" toward 0% by not extending, or eliminating, unemployment compensation. As people drop from the system, then unemployment falls, solving the problem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ArchPaul View Post
    Lower right corner of this table says 12.5% (U-6), U-3 is the BS number they give to the media...
    Very GOOD Catch! Just goes to show yah, the blatant manipulation of the government! German Propaganda Minister Josef Goebbles would be proud of the parity in presenting numbers.

    Worst is over according to CNBC

    Found CNBC's reporting on this matter disgusting they were talking about how 6.7 unemployment was good thing and the worst was over. Yeah that would explain why there is 20k job counts that day alone from major corporations
    Another Psychological broadcast by the 4th branch of government (MSM) Very apparent, GE/NBC/CNBC and affiliates are playing to the government's dictation that this is all psychological across America. I presume CNBC's advertisers are cutting their expeditures with CNBC and many have stop... take your pick of the 2 reasons... to feed CNBC mouths OR to feed CNBC mouths! CNBC lies, lies lies... yeah!...

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    Cramer who was calling a prolonged recession last week changed his tune and was calling for bull market and housing prices hitting bottom (just last week he said it would not bottom till June 09) Getting the feeling that GE is trying use CNBC as a way to create a rally in the markets to save its own hide (GE capital).
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    Many on RPF have exposed what Jim "CRAPSHOOT" Cramer is all about! Cramer is a liar, a manipulator, a TV hack... he's been wrong SO MANY TIMES... I'm surprised he's not part of the UNemployment line... Then again... he's aVery Very Good PUPPET to the true MASTERS!
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    Sorry , i don't know how to link things, but on web site "321 GOLD " there is a great article named "The markets classic fall crash patterns " by BOB HOYE, very interesting......

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    Quote Originally Posted by ILUVRP View Post
    Sorry , i don't know how to link things, but on web site "321 GOLD " there is a great article named "The markets classic fall crash patterns " by BOB HOYE, very interesting......
    Got you covered...

    http://www.321gold.com/editorials/hoye/hoye120608.pdf

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