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    Something Is Happening Of Historic Proportions

    I found this interesting.

    Something Is Happening Of Historic Proportions

    I am a student of history. Professionally. I have written 15 books in six languages, and have studied it all my life. I think there is something monumentally large afoot, and I do not believe it is just a banking crisis, or a mortgage crisis, or a credit crisis. Yes these exist, but they are merely single facets on a very large gemstone that is only now coming into a sharper focus.

    Something of historic proportions is happening. I can sense it because I know how it feels, smells, what it looks like, and how people react to it. Yes, a perfect storm may be brewing, but there is something happening within our country that has been evolving for about ten - fifteen years. The pace has dramatically quickened in the past two.

    We demand and then codify into law the requirement that our banks make massive loans to people we know they can never pay back? Why?

    We learn just days ago that the Federal Reserve, which has little or no real oversight by anyone, has "loaned" two trillion dollars (that is $2,000,000,000,000) over the past few months, but will not tell us to whom or why or disclose the terms. That is our money. Yours and mine. And that is three times the 700B we all argued about so strenuously just this past September. Who has this money? Why do they have it? Why are the terms unavailable to us? Who asked for it? Who authorized it? I thought this was a government of "we the people," who loaned our powers to our elected leaders. Apparently not.

    We have spent two or more decades intentionally de-industrializing our economy. Why?

    We have intentionally dumbed down our schools, ignored our history, and no longer teach our founding documents, why we are exceptional, and why we are worth preserving. Students by and large cannot write, think critically, read, or articulate. Parents are not revolting, teachers are not picketing, school boards continue to back mediocrity. Why?

    We have now established the precedent of protesting every close election (now violently in California over a proposition that is so controversial that it wants marriage to remain between one man and one woman. Did you ever think such a thing possible just a decade ago?). We have corrupted our sacred political process by allowing unelected judges to write laws that radically change our way of life, and then mainstream Marxist groups like ACORN and others to turn our voting system into a banana republic. To what purpose?

    Now our mortgage industry is collapsing, housing prices are in free fall, major industries are failing, our banking system is on the verge of collapse, social security is nearly bankrupt, as is medicare and our entire government, our education system is worse than a joke (I teach college and know precisely what I am talking about)*the list is staggering in its length, breadth, and depth. It is potentially 1929 x ten. And we are at war with an enemy we cannot name for fear of offending people of the same religion, who cannot wait to slit the throats of your children if they have the opportunity to do so.

    And now we have elected a man no one knows anything about, who has never run so much as a Dairy Queen, let alone a town as big as Wasilla, Alaska. All of his associations and alliances are with real radicals in their chosen fields of employment, and everything we learn about him, drip by drip, is unsettling if not downright scary (Surely you have heard him speak about his idea to create and fund a mandatory civilian defense force stronger than our military for use inside our borders? No? Oh of course. The media would never play that for you over and over and then demand he answer it. Sarah Palin's pregnant daughter and $150,000 wardrobe is more imporant.)

    Mr. Obama's winning platform can be boiled down to one word: change.

    Why?

    I have never been so afraid for my country and for my children as I am now.

    This man campaigned on bringing people together, something he has never, ever done in his professional life. In my assessment, Obama will divide us along philosophical lines, push us apart, and then try to realign the pieces into a new and different power structure. Change is indeed coming. And when it comes, you will never see the same nation again.

    And that is only the beginning.

    And I thought I would never be able to experience what the ordinary, moral German felt in the mid-1930s. In those times, the savior was a former smooth-talking rabble-rouser from the streets, about whom the average German knew next to nothing. What they did know was that he was associated with groups that shouted, shoved, and pushed around people with whom they disagreed; he edged his way onto the political stage through great oratory and promises. Economic times were tough, people were losing jobs, and he was a great speaker. And he smiled and waved a lot. And people, even newspapers, were afraid to speak out for fear that his "brown shirts" would bully them into submission. And then, he was duly elected to office, a full-throttled economic crisis at hand [the Great Depression]. Slowly but surely he seized the controls of government power, department by department, person by person, bureaucracy by bureaucracy. The kids joined a Youth Movement in his name, where they were taught what to think. How did he get the people on his side? He did it promising jobs to the jobless, money to the moneyless, and goodies for the military- industrial complex. He did it by indoctrinating the children, advocating gun control, health care for all, better wages, better jobs, and promising to re-instill pride once again in the country, across Europe, and across the world.

    He did it with a compliant media*did you know that? And he did this all in the name of justice and . . . change. And the people surely got what they voted for.

    (Look it up if you think I am exaggerating.)

    Read your history books. Many people objected in 1933 and were shouted down, called names, laughed at, and made fun of. When Winston Churchill pointed out the obvious in the late 1930s while seated in the House of Lords in England (he was not yet Prime Minister), he was booed into his seat and called a crazy troublemaker. He was right, though.

    Don't forget that Germany was the most educated, cultured country in Europe. It was full of music, art, museums, hospitals, laboratories, and universities. And in less than six years*a shorter time span than just two terms of the U. S. presidency*it was rounding up its own citizens, killing others, abrogating its laws, turning children against parents, and neighbors against neighbors. All with the best of intentions, of course. The road to Hell is paved with them.

    As a practical thinker, one not overly prone to emotional decisions, I have a choice: I can either believe what the objective pieces of evidence tell me (even if they make me cringe with disgust); I can believe what history is shouting to me from across the chasm of seven decades; or I can hope I am wrong by closing my eyes, having another latte, and ignoring what is transpiring around me.

    Some people scoff at me, others laugh, or think I am foolish, naive, or both. Perhaps I am. But I have never been afraid to look people in the eye and tell them exactly what I believe*and why I believe it.

    I pray I am wrong. I do not think I am.
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    Wow!
    Diversity finds unity in the message of freedom.

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    Quote Originally Posted by phill4paul View Post
    Above all I think everyone needs to understand that neither the Bundys nor Finicum were militia or had prior military training. They were, first and foremost, Ranchers who had about all the shit they could take.
    Quote Originally Posted by HOLLYWOOD View Post
    If anything, this situation has proved the government is nothing but a dictatorship backed by deadly force... no different than the dictatorships in the banana republics, just more polished and cleverly propagandized.
    "I'll believe in good cops when they start turning bad cops in."

    Quote Originally Posted by tod evans View Post
    In a free society there will be bigotry, and racism, and sexism and religious disputes and, and, and.......
    I don't want to live in a cookie cutter, federally mandated society.
    Give me messy freedom every time!

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    He's an obvious partisan and way too ignorant himself to be much of a college prof--witness his myopic focus on Obama and his complete disregard for all of Congress. Nevertheless, if you can use some of this to awaken another partisan who is ignorant of Congress, by all means...
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    You only want the freedoms that will undermine the nation and lead to the destruction of liberty.

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    The "evil muslim enemies who want to slit your childrens' throats" line made me facepalm.

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    It's kind of sad to see people like that who have finally seen the problems but are still in denial and think that the problem is Obama.. they can't take that extra step and admit that both parties are destroying our country.
    NC doesn't need ThomTillis as the Republican nominee for US Senate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by slacker921 View Post
    It's kind of sad to see people like that who have finally seen the problems but are still in denial and think that the problem is Obama.. they can't take that extra step and admit that both parties are destroying our country.
    http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showpos...&postcount=118

    That's why we are trying to evolve into a big instrument of education.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    You only want the freedoms that will undermine the nation and lead to the destruction of liberty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    He's an obvious partisan and way too ignorant himself to be much of a college prof--witness his myopic focus on Obama and his complete disregard for all of Congress. Nevertheless, if you can use some of this to awaken another partisan who is ignorant of Congress, by all means...
    i agree except the bolded part.... apparently these days ignorance is a requirement for college profs

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    Quote Originally Posted by slacker921 View Post
    It's kind of sad to see people like that who have finally seen the problems but are still in denial and think that the problem is Obama.. they can't take that extra step and admit that both parties are destroying our country.

    Why is everyone hyperfocusing on what he wrote about Obama? He writes about everything leading up to his election as well. Do you (and all the other critical posters on this thread) think everything is going to get better with an Obama presidency? Well, do you? If so, why are you on these forums? Because I'm pretty damned sure that Ron Paul doesn't think so.
    Diversity finds unity in the message of freedom.

    Dilige et quod vis fac. ~ Saint Augustine

    Quote Originally Posted by phill4paul View Post
    Above all I think everyone needs to understand that neither the Bundys nor Finicum were militia or had prior military training. They were, first and foremost, Ranchers who had about all the shit they could take.
    Quote Originally Posted by HOLLYWOOD View Post
    If anything, this situation has proved the government is nothing but a dictatorship backed by deadly force... no different than the dictatorships in the banana republics, just more polished and cleverly propagandized.
    "I'll believe in good cops when they start turning bad cops in."

    Quote Originally Posted by tod evans View Post
    In a free society there will be bigotry, and racism, and sexism and religious disputes and, and, and.......
    I don't want to live in a cookie cutter, federally mandated society.
    Give me messy freedom every time!



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    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    ...if you can use some of this to awaken another partisan who is ignorant of Congress, by all means...
    Vast majority of Americans IMO.
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    Personally, I think it's pretty good. Sure, he left out some things, but so what. He mentioned the Federal Reserve, the intentional dumbing down of our children, our government's bankruptcy, the, what seems like intentional de-industrialization of our country, the media, etc. Yeah, he takes a slam at Muslims, but there ARE some fanatical ones who wish us harm. Actually, many more now after Iraq.

    Overall, I think the essay is very good.
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    Thumbs down

    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    He's an obvious partisan and way too ignorant himself to be much of a college prof--witness his myopic focus on Obama and his complete disregard for all of Congress. Nevertheless, if you can use some of this to awaken another partisan who is ignorant of Congress, by all means...
    Quote Originally Posted by slacker921 View Post
    It's kind of sad to see people like that who have finally seen the problems but are still in denial and think that the problem is Obama.. they can't take that extra step and admit that both parties are destroying our country.
    It is a piece he wrote. One page long. If he was going to criticize
    congress, and everything else that is wrong with our country, it would
    end up a book.

    I don't know the author, so maybe you are right that he is partisan.
    But this piece, on its own, is just fine and your criticism of it is
    unmerited.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sidster View Post
    It is a piece he wrote. One page long. If he was going to criticize
    congress, and everything else that is wrong with our country, it would
    end up a book.

    I don't know the author, so maybe you are right that he is partisan.
    But this piece, on its own, is just fine and your criticism of it is
    unmerited.
    "And we are at war with an enemy we cannot name for fear of offending people of the same religion, who cannot wait to slit the throats of your children if they have the opportunity to do so.

    "And now we have elected a man no one knows anything about, who has never run so much as a Dairy Queen, let alone a town as big as Wasilla, Alaska. All of his associations and alliances are with real radicals in their chosen fields of employment, and everything we learn about him, drip by drip, is unsettling if not downright scary (Surely you have heard him speak about his idea to create and fund a mandatory civilian defense force stronger than our military for use inside our borders? No? Oh of course. The media would never play that for you over and over and then demand he answer it. Sarah Palin's pregnant daughter and $150,000 wardrobe is more imporant.)"

    Oh, well, there's no way my argument that he's a partisan has merit. None at all.

    Like I said, if you find someone this would work on, use it. But don't be surprised if you try to use it verbatim on everyone and find that it backfires just about half the time. Or, at least, don't expect me to refrain from saying I told you so.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    You only want the freedoms that will undermine the nation and lead to the destruction of liberty.

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    The general thrust of what he was saying is on target, I think. Sure, there are some holes, but I believe people like this who can see what is coming can be worked with. Those who refuse to see what's coming can't be.
    "They [the Soviets] intend...to induce the Americans to adopt their own 'restructuring' and convergence of the Soviet and American systems ... Convergence will be accompanied by blood baths and political re-education camps in Western Europe and the United States. The Soviet strategists are counting on an economic depression in the United States and intend to introduce their reformed model of socialism with a human face as an alternative to the American system during the depression."
    Anatoliy Golitsyn The Perestroika Deception 1990


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    Something this guy doesn't know about:

    "Greater than the tread of armies is an idea whose time has come." -- Victor Hugo

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    I have thought the same thoughts as expressed in the OP, but people think its hyperbole.
    Been thinking it for the last 8 years actually...
    rewritten history with armies of their crooks - invented memories, did burn all the books... Mark Knopfler

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    Not easy thoughts to articulate in a non-hyperbolic manner...
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    You only want the freedoms that will undermine the nation and lead to the destruction of liberty.



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    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    Not easy thoughts to articulate in a non-hyperbolic manner...
    I think it was Hitler who said, people will more easily fall for a big lie than a small one.
    And that is exactly why the truth sounds so obsurd. The lie is just that big.
    rewritten history with armies of their crooks - invented memories, did burn all the books... Mark Knopfler

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    We demand and then codify into law the requirement that our banks make massive loans to people we know they can never pay back? Why?
    Because our government education system has indoctrinated everyone to believe that government intervention "saves" the economy, and because people find it unpleasant that poor people can't afford houses.

    We have spent two or more decades intentionally de-industrializing our economy. Why?
    Because unskilled labor is plentifully available in other countries, and American unskilled laborers have unresonable expectations for their wages.

    We have intentionally dumbed down our schools, ignored our history, and no longer teach our founding documents, why we are exceptional, and why we are worth preserving. Students by and large cannot write, think critically, read, or articulate. Parents are not revolting, teachers are not picketing, school boards continue to back mediocrity. Why?
    Because teachers' unions prevent bad teachers from being fired and good teachers from being rewarded. And school boards and state and federal departments of education prevent innovation at the administrative level.


    There are perfectly reasonable (albiet depressing) explanations for all these problems without leading us to the conclusion that we're on the verge of becoming Nazis. I don't understand the point of trying to draw that parallel. What good would a holocaust and a blitzkrieg attack of the rest of our continent do us?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Feenix566 View Post
    There are perfectly reasonable (albiet depressing) explanations for all these problems without leading us to the conclusion that we're on the verge of becoming Nazis. I don't understand the point of trying to draw that parallel. What good would a holocaust and a blitzkrieg attack of the rest of our continent do us?
    I don't find your explanations reasonable at all. I do, however, find them accurate. And I do understand the point of drawing that parallel. The point being that it's been done before and it can be done again. We are on the road to complete and total socialism/communism (take your pick) and those of us who would choose to throw it off, just might end up missing, and if you think that isn't a possibility, then you are choosing to ignore history. Ever taken a gander at the Communist manifesto? Here, have a look:


    http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=155494
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    Quote Originally Posted by phill4paul View Post
    Above all I think everyone needs to understand that neither the Bundys nor Finicum were militia or had prior military training. They were, first and foremost, Ranchers who had about all the shit they could take.
    Quote Originally Posted by HOLLYWOOD View Post
    If anything, this situation has proved the government is nothing but a dictatorship backed by deadly force... no different than the dictatorships in the banana republics, just more polished and cleverly propagandized.
    "I'll believe in good cops when they start turning bad cops in."

    Quote Originally Posted by tod evans View Post
    In a free society there will be bigotry, and racism, and sexism and religious disputes and, and, and.......
    I don't want to live in a cookie cutter, federally mandated society.
    Give me messy freedom every time!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deborah K View Post
    I don't find your explanations reasonable at all. I do, however, find them accurate. And I do understand the point of drawing that parallel. The point being that it's been done before and it can be done again. We are on the road to complete and total socialism/communism (take your pick) and those of us who would choose to throw it off, just might end up missing, and if you think that isn't a possibility, then you are choosing to ignore history. Ever taken a gander at the Communist manifesto? Here, have a look:
    Drawing a parallel to Soviet communism would be more accurate than the parellel to Nazi fascism.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Feenix566 View Post
    Drawing a parallel to Soviet communism would be more accurate than the parellel to Nazi fascism.
    Okay, but I tend to think we may end up with a hybrid, when you consider that corporatism is just another word for fascism.
    Diversity finds unity in the message of freedom.

    Dilige et quod vis fac. ~ Saint Augustine

    Quote Originally Posted by phill4paul View Post
    Above all I think everyone needs to understand that neither the Bundys nor Finicum were militia or had prior military training. They were, first and foremost, Ranchers who had about all the shit they could take.
    Quote Originally Posted by HOLLYWOOD View Post
    If anything, this situation has proved the government is nothing but a dictatorship backed by deadly force... no different than the dictatorships in the banana republics, just more polished and cleverly propagandized.
    "I'll believe in good cops when they start turning bad cops in."

    Quote Originally Posted by tod evans View Post
    In a free society there will be bigotry, and racism, and sexism and religious disputes and, and, and.......
    I don't want to live in a cookie cutter, federally mandated society.
    Give me messy freedom every time!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deborah K View Post
    Why is everyone hyperfocusing on what he wrote about Obama? He writes about everything leading up to his election as well. Do you (and all the other critical posters on this thread) think everything is going to get better with an Obama presidency? Well, do you? If so, why are you on these forums? Because I'm pretty damned sure that Ron Paul doesn't think so.
    The opposite actually. I think Obama is going to put us in the $#@!ter but I think it's sad that he's trying to make it look like Obama is the only evil we have to fear, when McCain would have been as bad if not worse.

    His take on it is that of a typical Republican in denial. BOTH the Democrats and Republicans are the problem. I'm just tired of hearing that Obama is the reason things are going to get so bad and the quicker we can get Republicans in Washington the better. Ugh.
    NC doesn't need ThomTillis as the Republican nominee for US Senate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Feenix566 View Post
    Drawing a parallel to Soviet communism would be more accurate than the parellel to Nazi fascism.
    "We cannot continue to rely on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives that we've set. We've got to have a civilian national security force that's just as powerful, just as strong, just as well-funded." Obama in Colorado Springs, Colorado.

    "People of all ages, stations, and skills will be asked to serve."

    He plans to double the Peace Corps' budget by 2011, and expand AmeriCorps, USA Freedom Corps, VISTA, YouthBuild Program, and the Senior Corps. Plus, he proposes to form a Classroom Corps, Health Corps, Clean Energy Corps, Veterans Corps, Homeland Security Corps, Global Energy Corps, and a Green Jobs Corps. Here a corps - there a corps - everywhere a corps corps.
    (source)

    he said his call to community service "will be a central cause of my presidency."

    gets scarier ...

    Quote Originally Posted by Obama
    So when I'm President, I will set a goal for all American middle and high school students to perform 50 hours of service a year, and for all college students to perform 100 hours of service a year. This means that by the time you graduate college, you'll have done 17 weeks of service.

    We'll reach this goal in several ways. At the middle and high school level, we'll make federal assistance conditional on school districts developing service programs, and give schools resources to offer new service opportunities. At the community level, we'll develop public-private partnerships so students can serve more outside the classroom
    Last edited by sidster; 11-25-2008 at 04:42 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Feenix566 View Post
    There are perfectly reasonable (albiet depressing) explanations for all these problems without leading us to the conclusion that we're on the verge of becoming Nazis. I don't understand the point of trying to draw that parallel. What good would a holocaust and a blitzkrieg attack of the rest of our continent do us?
    FDR said there are no accidents in politics. What is done is done for a reason. Ron Paul said when the politicians actually act in a bipartisan manner, watch you ass. The point is, maybe it is all accidental, but if it isn't will they catch us flat-footed again?

    Hundreds of physicists you've never heard of attributed the behavior of objects moving at great speed to anomaly. Einstein found the explanation and came up with the equation. You've actually heard of old Albert, haven't you?
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    You only want the freedoms that will undermine the nation and lead to the destruction of liberty.



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