NYC Gun Ban Unconstitutional?
Isn't it? One can't even carry a medium sized knife in the city. How is this violation of our constitution allowed or justified?
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There is danger from all men. The only maxim of a free government ought to be to trust no man living with power to endanger the public liberty.
Thomas Jefferson:
No man has a natural right to commit aggression on the equal rights of another, and this is all from which the laws ought to restrain him.
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Because no one pays attention to that "quaint" old document anymore..
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I imagine that with the "Heller" Supreme Court decision that most of these type of ordinances will eventually be challenged.
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Last edited by Pennsylvania; 06-24-2009 at 09:30 PM.
It makes sense to me that if a state like New York agrees to be apart and uphold the nation's constitution then it by constitutional law should not violate that constitution within its own state constitution. If that's not the case, then what's the point of the having a nation of sovereign states under a ineffective national constitution?Originally Posted by Pennsylvania
John Adams:
There is danger from all men. The only maxim of a free government ought to be to trust no man living with power to endanger the public liberty.
Thomas Jefferson:
No man has a natural right to commit aggression on the equal rights of another, and this is all from which the laws ought to restrain him.
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Do you know of any potential challenges being stirred up, it would be good to help.
John Adams:
There is danger from all men. The only maxim of a free government ought to be to trust no man living with power to endanger the public liberty.
Thomas Jefferson:
No man has a natural right to commit aggression on the equal rights of another, and this is all from which the laws ought to restrain him.
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Well they don't use the national constitution how it should be anyways so I am confused as to why people are "Shocked" at all by this.
States should be able to run their state as they want, if those in NY voted for it then so be it. Now is this for the entire state OR was it a NYC ban? There are many laws that can get changed within city limits whereas rural and outskirt areas have different laws pertaining to guns like here in California for instance.
I am unclear on the NYC ban so I will check it out.
ON the OP though,
I don't know what a gun ban has to do with not even being able to carry a knife though...
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All it takes is a freedom loving gun supporter to stand up for him or herself and there will be plenty. It is happening over here in California with plenty of people getting arrested for LEGAL unloaded oc'ing.
It will take people in NYC to stand up and until that happens enjoy being gunless.
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Last edited by Pennsylvania; 06-24-2009 at 09:30 PM.
According to this article the NRA is suing Chicago and is considering taking the same action in NYC. Basically it'll come down to how the court defines "reasonable" regulation.
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/us_w..._gun_laws.html
New Yorkers must get a license from the NYPD to own a gun and must follow stringent rules, such as keeping rifles and shotguns locked up.
City officials believe those limits will pass muster, but Brophy said the $340 fee every three years may be too high to be reasonable, and the minimum six-month wait for a license to be approved may be too long.
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First amendment says "Congress shall make now law". The second amendment doesn't put that qualifier in it.
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Last edited by Pennsylvania; 06-24-2009 at 09:31 PM.
Because at the time it was written, there were State sponsored religions.
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Makes sense for religion then, but not for speech.
It's only a matter of time before the precedent set by Heller v. DC leads to the Supremes incoporating the 2nd Amendment. All we need is a good lawsuit to come out of Chicago or New York.
The only people who own guns in NYC are the gangsters and why would they complain? They love the gun ban! First it makes them cooler, and secondly, no one else owns a gun.
Its really weird in some ways... NYC itself has very strict gun control laws (the surrounding areas outside of the city are slightly less strict but still stricter than most other states iirc) but unlike Philly or the Suburbs of DC, we have a relatively low crime rate so people by and large feel safe and don't believe they need a gun to protect themselves (crack heads and gang members excluded obviously). Its actually goes against the more common stats seen around the country and around the world about guns bans = greater violence.
I think people here are mixed on the second amendment right to own a gun but even those that support the ideology of it are less likely to own one and aren't as focused on the hoops one has to jump through for a permit.
the 14th amenment makes the 2nd apply to the states
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