How long till Obama gets us into his first war.
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How long till Obama gets us into his first war.
Day 1.Originally Posted by danberkeley
Hi. We're already in multiple wars. Welcome to America.
First New War - Now until the end of 2009 is my guess.
He hasn't done anything to lead me to believe he would be starting any new wars.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uIum0o-_LZk
Last edited by vodalian; 11-07-2008 at 05:44 AM.
Hope you watched the video posted by coyote spirit above.
Obama's strategy will be to move a few brigades from Iraq, giving people the sense that the Iraq war is coming to an end. He will make no real attempt to end the building of new bases and there will be at least 60,000 troops still in Iraq at the end of his first term.
He will move the brigades to Afghanistan and other places and casualties will mount there.
Those who thought they saw Obama as their "peace candidate" will be as surprised as Republicans who thought Bush was their "no nation-building candidate"
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By the end of summer 2009. I expect it to be some kind of an attack which will be used as a pretext for a larger, and wider engagement. A Gulf of Tonkin incident that Ron Paul talked about. I know that this administration isn't out fo there until Jan so it could happen at any time. Know that Iran and Syria have a mutual defense agreement so if we're into it with one of them, we're also in it with the other as well. Both countries were on PNAC's target list. Bush was step #1 and Obama will be number two. The step that makes us fall into the rapids.
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"It will not be six months before the world tests Barack Obama like they did John Kennedy."
-Joe Biden
Declared war or continuation of Intrusion into Iraq, then Afghanistan?
Obama said during a debate he thought the troops should leave Iraq, and we should go after bin Laden in Afghanistan. I expect continued shotgun destruction with the USA at the trigger, although almost everyone seems to want us to stay at home and deal with our own problems. When they'll point the weapon in our name, I don't know. I do know that I am ashamed of our country.
As soon as Israel attacks Iran's nuclear plants, a war will start, and Obama will not support Israel....forget not that Obama is good buddies with Rashim Qalidi (spelling?), a spokesman for Arafat. He is also pals with Lewis Farikan, a ardent anti-semite, who refered to Obama is "The One." His new chief of staff's father was a member of some group in Israel who, depending on whose fingers were getting smashed in the door jam, was a revolutionary group, or a terrorist cell.
Obama is NOT friends with Israel. All those ignorant jewish sheep who voted for him are in for a big suprise.
I don't think summer is a good time for a false flag attack. Most people are on vacation, and don't have time to get riled up and start calling their congressmen. It's also too hot for it to be practical in most places. Pearl Harbor was in winter, 9/11 in fall. However, Gulf of Tonkin was August, so I suppose there is some rationale to what you say. We also have to see how many neocons are appointed in the new cabinet and throughout the administration. When I know more, I make a call on it.
As much as he is being told to start wars, I am not so sure he will. I suspect at the end of his first term the economy will be in such back shape he will probably have many troops home but absolutely not all.
I think if there is another 911 event, we'll be in for trouble.
" Anyone can become angry. That is easy. But to be angry with the right person, to the right degree, at the right time, for the right purpose and in the right way - that is not easy." --Aristotle
I don't understand why Israel would make such a move when they don't have the same implicit backing that they had when the Bush neocons ruled-nor do I know of Zionists in the Obama regime. Please explain.
He also spoke in front of AIPAC.
They could always do it from now till inauguration
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That's quite the assumption considering he has been promising war throughout his entire campaign.
Okay, I've watched the video. I'm still not convinced that he will be starting any new wars. Will he fully disengage in Iraq? Probably not. Will he escalate action in Afghanistan? Yes. It seems he may even make unilateral strikes on targets within Pakistan. I don't see him attacking Pakistan as a nation, however. That's what I mean when I say I don't see any new wars.
Rahm's father was a member of a Pro-Israeli Terrorist group.
And don't even get started on Biden's ties to AIPAC.His father, the Jerusalem-born Benjamin M. Emanuel, is a pediatrician and former member of the Irgun,[34] a radical Zionist paramilitary group
Expect Obama to bow to AIPAC as easily as any other Neo-Con.
No?
His Chief Of Staff - Rahm Israel Emanuel - Is a Member Of the Israeli Defense Forces - He has Dual US -Israel Citizenship.
'nuff said.
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whenever the Israeli PM (aka his boss) says so
Secession! More reasons, the global beaurocratic socialists are shunning us. I f they want to live in this country, fine but we should secede. I won't shut up about this, it's important.
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Damn proud Classical Liberal/Minarchist!
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Brzezinski is already in charge and we are already bombing Pakistan. So Obama has already started a war with Pakistan before he has been sworn in. This wasn't one of the choices on the poll.
"Now to inauguration" is option numero uno
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We started bombing Pakistan way before "now." Brzezinski seized power several months ago.
Oh. I see what you are saying. However, could you provide a source for "Brzezinski seized power several months ago"?
Yea, I came to the awful realisation before the election that Biden had let something slip that he shouldn't have. Namely the plans for getting us into another war and/or a reason for the looter thugs in office to start cracking skulls of any and all protestors at home. Expect more and more Katrina-type firearm seizures once 'the state of emergency' comes to fruition.
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