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    Default scientists out there..... the best way to prove our message

    is to come up with a better fuel than refined gasoline for vehicle transport, before the government does.

    lets do this.
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    You don't have to develop anything, necessarily.

    Simply join the fight to legalize hemp/cannabis

    http://votehemp.com/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grimnir Wotansvolk View Post
    You don't have to develop anything, necessarily.

    Simply join the fight to legalize hemp/cannabis

    http://votehemp.com/
    Yea, Hemp-Ethanol would be pretty effective. Unfortunately, the folks behind the wheels of industry have done a great job of demonizing hemp, and anyone who mentions hemp is labeled as a hippy-stoner-wacko.
    Hemp grows super well in almost all of america and can be used to make way more than fuel. And, we don't need to eat it, like corn! Eh, it won't happen until Dupont can genetically engineer a version of hemp that they can patent. Then the government will finally "take hemp seriously".... poopers for sure.

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    yeah that would definately throw some more fuel into the system, and theres not much reason to not try it out by legalizing it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BarryDonegan View Post
    yeah that would definately throw some more fuel into the system, and theres not much reason to not try it out by legalizing it.
    I don't mean this as a criticism towards you, but I hate seeing people refer to hemp as something that we need to, "try out," "give a shot," etc.

    It's already been proven, and the fact that this plant can be grown 2 or 3 times a year in the right conditions should make it obvious what needs to be done.

    Hemp was, after all, the vision Ford and Diesel had for the future.

    Add medical and recreational marijuana to the mix, and just consider what kind of power could be injected into our economy. If you value a stable free market and sound money, this is absolutely the way to go. Imagine what a change in conversation this could bring: "the power of de-regulatory free-market capitalism has successfully beaten back a government-incurred debt, saving us from what could have easily become the next Great Depression..."

    Perhaps one day we'll get to see those headlines.
    Last edited by Grimnir Wotansvolk; 10-30-2008 at 02:05 AM.

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    still, you have to introduce it into the market and make sure that it is viable enough to sustain the WHOLE system.... being able to produce enough hemp to create enough fuel to do some good, sure, but hanging the whole energy system on one fuel just doesn't make any sense. let prices dictate it with them all legalized, you cannot possibly prove yet that any one is better than the others just based on the one sided stats every promoter of a fuel type presents. the only way to truly measure it is to test them all at once, and see which one is the most abundant with the lowest price once the day is done. have you looked into how much farm space is available for hemp? what other things might not get produced in the same space? theres no telling until we try, and each fuel is probably only viable at certain environmental conditions.

    what happens if theres a drought one year.. thats why you need 20 options for fuel, rather than the just one approach we have now.

    so yeah, im with you, legalize hemp, lets get it rolling. once i see a pump with a good price on it, and a fuel my vehicle can use, then i will congratulate whatever group profited off of that brilliant venture, until then, lets legalize every choice and get the taxes off em.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grimnir Wotansvolk View Post
    I don't mean this as a criticism towards you, but I hate seeing people refer to hemp as something that we need to, "try out," "give a shot," etc.

    It's already been proven, and the fact that this plant can be grown 2 or 3 times a year in the right conditions should make it obvious what needs to be done.

    Hemp was, after all, the vision Ford and Diesel had for the future.
    True.
    Also, most species of hemp don't even contain significant amounts of THC. If the government really wanted to keep the kids from toking the green, they could still keep the THC containing hemp illegal. I don't think any hemp should be illegal, but we aren't even talking about smokable hemp. Outlawing an entire GENUS of plants is ridiculous. It's akin to outlawing all poppy plants because there is one species that you can make opium from.

    This whole thing gets me really mad. There is no good reason for Hemp to be illegal. I don't even care, they can keep Cannabis sativa illegal if they want. Open up the rest of hemp. Unfortunately oil companies, plastic companies, and lumber companies will never let that happen, unless they can find a way to monopolize it.... again, it's all poopers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PauliticsPolitics View Post
    I don't even care, they can keep Cannabis sativa illegal if they want.
    Why? How can you speak so effectively about hemp and then be so hush-hush about cannabis? That seems to spineless to me, when there's also no valid reason for cannabis to be illegal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grimnir Wotansvolk View Post
    Why? How can you speak so effectively about hemp and then be so hush-hush about cannabis? That seems to spineless to me, when there's also no valid reason for cannabis to be illegal.
    I agree...
    But, the stated reasons for making the genus cannabis illegal is due to THC content. Most hemp (industrial hemp) has almost no THC. Outlawing industrial hemp because related plants contain THC is just plain ridiculous.

    I am also for the legalization for almost all drugs, but I believe that is a separate discussion. Alot of people are against hemp because they falsely believe hemp is a drug.

    I personally believe legalizing industrial hemp is way more important than legalizing THC, though I am quite pro for both.
    Last edited by PauliticsPolitics; 10-30-2008 at 02:55 AM.

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    hemp would also prevent reforestation..

    The Declaration of Independence was written on Hemp Paper

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