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Thread: Peter Schiff's father is rotting in jail for "tax evasion."

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    A lot of info here:
    "No matter how noble you try to make it, your good intentions will not compensate for the mistakes that people make; that want to run
    our lives and run the economy, and reject the principles of private property and making up our own decisions for ourselves." -Ron Paul

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    “I will be as harsh as truth, and uncompromising as justice... I am in earnest, I will not equivocate, I will not excuse, I will not retreat a single inch, and I will be heard.” ~ William Lloyd Garrison

    Quote Originally Posted by TGGRV View Post
    Conza, why do you even bother? lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    Drudge is a traitor to the Leader and the Revolution.

    Quiz: Test Your "Income" Tax IQ!

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    The Income Tax Is An Excise, And Excise Taxes Are Privilege Taxes

    The Federalist Papers, No. 15:

    Except as to the rule of appointment, the United States have an indefinite discretion to make requisitions for men and money; but they have no authority to raise either by regulations extending to the individual citizens of America.

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    If you guys are gonna start revering my jailed friends, don't forget Jim Bell.
    "First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win." - Mahatma Gandhi
    Paul Revere - "The British are coming!"
    Ron Paul - The Bankers are coming!
    "Evil People win when Good People do nothing"

    "You're asking the poor people to bail out the rich. You're asking the innocent
    people to bail out the guilty. You're asking people to just totally defy the Constitution because there's
    no place in the Constitution that says that we can do these things."

  6. #35


    Quote Originally Posted by LibertyEagle View Post
    Isn't it true that they have to liquidate the stocks, so that it's not a conflict of interest?
    yes.....and that part i have no problem with.

    But why, when we get hammered with cap gains,.... do they get to NEVER have to pay one dime cap gains tax just cuz they took a cushy government job? Its a bunch of insiders taking care of themselves.
    Last edited by max; 10-12-2008 at 07:31 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brassmouth View Post
    Because letting them know we opposed the bailout was SOOOOOO effective. I'm sure convincing them to grant someone a pardon will be a piece of cake.
    lol. At one time (many years ago), I was under the impression that people in congress just didn't hear from enough people because they were fat, dumb, and happy. Then I was unsure. This bailout thing finally made it crystal clear.
    We have allies many of you are not aware of. Watch the tube. Show this to your 30 and under friends. Listen to it. Even if you don't like rap, it has 2.7 million views.

    Cut off one min early to avoid war porn.

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    And these are the people that just waged a successful Coup and took total control of your country. Both parties are in on it and have been for a long while.

    The same bunch that have Irwin Schiff in prison, and they are torturing him I hear, will now be coming for you and your family. Most of us will not be able to make our mtg payments as inflation and the total economic crash kicks in. You will not be able to pay your taxes. Guess what? Now these bastards will step in and take everything you own, strip you down and put you and your babies and pets on the curb.

    The people in bad mtg's are not the only ones that have been taken, your next.

    If any of you think organized emails and phone calls to DC will do anything to remedy your downfall, then you really are the fools they have taken you for.

    There is only one peaceful solution left, and it must be done immediately.

    Organize each States Ron Paul's meetup groups and blanket the respective States with newspaper adds spelling out the problem and the plan. The plan will be to demand that your respective State's secede from this corrupt tyrannical fed gov. That is a great first step. Please do so before the troops are in the streets.

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    Quote Originally Posted by torchbearer View Post
    Why do I feel like we are living in Red Dawn, but the enemy didn't come down in parachutes, they were elected with blood money to washington?
    Because that's exactly what happened
    An Appeal to LDS Voters:

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    "Wherefore, ye are free"

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    Default IRWIN SCHIFF & A "Health Nut Patriot" of Days Gone By...

    Thanks for those links.... sadly not much current info at that Irwin schiff blog. Latest update was 2006.

    About a month and a half ago I was wondering alot about Irwin Schiff when I was reading up on Peter Schiff at his Euro Pacific site and at his bio there I believe is where I saw Irwin Schiff was Peter's Dad. And I wondered immediately, "You mean, THE IRWIN SCHIFF is Peter's Dad"!!! HOT DOG!

    I was excited because it was like, WELL NO WONDER Peter Schiff is so bold and so aware of the crooks in the government! Ha! The acorn does not fall far from the tree!

    Amazing the son is a hot item all over the cable news shows, yet who ever hears anymore of his Dad stuffed in a prison somewhere?...

    Sad indeed, poor Irwin is 77 or even older by now... 43 years they gave him... surely there are some smart crack-pot attorneys who could file appeals, etc.?

    I wonder if he even has an attorney?

    I wonder if he can have visitors? and does his son/Peter get to visit him?

    The 2006 info says the feds take away Irwin's prison stipend so he cannot buy toiletries or ANYTHING.

    Terrible terrible.

    As was already mentioned, his site says he is forbidden by the feds to sell any of his books and writings, so they can be downloaded free from the site:

    Irwin Schiff's Great Giveaway

    Irwin Schiff is offering his entire Educational Program, for Free!

    Read "The Federal Mafia"

    Read "The Great Income Tax Hoax"

    Free Videos

    The Secrets of Living an Income Tax-Free Life

    Secrets Part 2's+secrets&hl=en

    The Lien and Levy Kit

    Lien and Levy Packet

    The Summary Transcript"

    "Tax Court Toolkit"

    How an Economy Grows and Why It Doesn't

    Kingdom of Moltz

    Irwin Schiff speaks out on the war video

    Backyard Role Play
    Series 4
    Series 5
    Series 6
    Series 7

    I got a real kick out of Irwin Schiff... What a gutsy guy! (Nobody may be interested in the rest of this, I'm just storytelling of how I first heard of Irwin Schiff...)

    ...which was in the late 1980s through a health-nut guy and author of "The Great AIDS Hoax," T.C. Fry, and his "Natural Hygiene" literature... he had a printing outfit in Texas, and mostly he published health info ("Natural Hygiene" re: water fasting, raw food diet, anti medical establishment, anti pharmacopoeia, etc.), but he also had something like 'American Freedom Network' or similar, and published Irwin Schiff info about the IRS/Income Tax fraud, which is the first I ever learned of it and was absolutely fascinated... I remember reading all the fine print, line by line, in the pages of IRS Tax Code TC Fry would send with the Irwin Schiff info. I still have that original stuff in the file cabinet, probably 20 years old now. They concentrated on the fact that when the IRS Code says "states" it is referring to federal states (Puerto Rico, Guam, DC, etc.) and not the 50 states, etc., and sure enough, that's what it said in those few pages of copies from IRS Code. It made a believer out of me.

    I have no idea if Fry and Schiff actually knew each other... probably it was that Fry merely liked the Schiff IRS info.

    Back in those days I had heard the feds raided Fry's printing office in Texas and confiscated his supplies and printing equipment. I think they did this several times. So he moved across country to the NE USA, and stayed there for awhile and started over with his publishing. He died "young" for a health-nut who had changed his life to a raw diet at age 48, but died at age 70. Everyone said he ran himself in the ground, and just would not stop, workaholic, etc. I got to meet and chat with the "legendary" TC Fry at health seminars in 1987 and again in 1990. He was a little strange, but at the same time kindly and wise.

    TC Fry:

    And ha, I just found this in a different article about TC's life and death, written in 1996, the year he died:

    Moving from business to politics seemed to come naturally to T.C. Indeed, after he sold Life Science Institute to Feeling Fit for Life, he published and/or wrote copy for various “patriot” publications. I still recall the amazement I felt when I read some of the very far-out things he had to say about black UN helicopters that would one day invade our cities and imprison us all. Bizarre, to say the least. Others shared my opinion of the T.C. we heard from during this period of his life.
    And another quote from another fan of TC's from the same 11/1/96 newsletter:

    Several years ago I phoned his place in Austin to see if I could ask some questions pertaining to Natural Hygiene, and happened to call at the exact moment he was being arrested. One of the men taking him away answered the phone. I asked if T.C. was available, and he said “He’s out front in handcuffs, on his way to jail, who is this?” At first I thought the guy was just someone trying to be funny, but suddenly realized he was serious, and I hung up the phone! That was a real shocker, and I didn’t know what to do!
    The same above person continues their info re: Fry... and get this...

    The last time we spoke on the phone was two years ago, just after the bombing of the federal building here in Oklahoma City. He called to ask if I had heard the blast (I had, as my house is only five or six miles from the bomb site). Then he
    wanted to know if I had heard more than one explosion,
    and I told him I only heard one single blast that shook the windows in my house.

    As much as I admired T.C. (I practically worshiped the guy), I was sometimes surprised and almost shocked at the way he was coming on so strong in his latest set of booklets, about “the powerful super-rich international cabal” and their plans to establish a one-world-dictatorship called the New World Order. It’s not that I don’t believe such could be possible, given everything that’s going on in the world these days, I just felt that he might be coming on a little too strong, to the point of seeming overly paranoid, and maybe alienating a lot of people who might not be ready for this kind of talk in a “health brochure.” Do you know what I mean?

    This was one area where I didn’t feel I could agree with T.C. as much as I always had before. It doesn’t really make sense to me that the New World Order would want to
    imprison and enslave all of us, when “The Establishment” already has us pretty much where they want us right now! They’re getting all our money in taxes, everybody is addicted to the poisonous Standard American Diet, everybody has bought into the “Modern Scientific Medicine” scam and is hypnotized into believing that without
    all their drugs and treatments they will die
    ... etc., etc.

    So why would the New World Order want to go to all the trouble of turning us into
    zombies and putting us in prison camps?
    It seems to me we wouldn’t be nearly as useful that way, and would become a huge burden to them.

    Besides, America is not some little village that can be invaded and taken over all at once–this is an immense country, and the logistics of accomplishing (and maintain-ing!) such a take over seem beyond the realm of possibility. But it frightened
    me somewhat to hear T.C. saying all this, since everything else he said always seemed to be so right on
    Ha! Isn't that amazing! (to me anyway). So good ol' TC could see what was happening as early as the late 1980s/early 1990s, but his health-nut readership couldn't handle it. I don't remember the New World Order info, but only the IRS/Income Tax and Irwin Schiff info that came in TC's mailings.

    Here's another excerpt from that same 11/1/96 newsletter... a copy of a letter TC himself wrote in 1993 re: the world conspiracy:

    What did T.C. really believe about politics? I don’t know for sure, but the following excerpt from one of T.C.’s letters, dated December 30, 1993, reveals either
    much or nothing. You decide:

    should tell you that the world is not really controlled by Rothschild or the Zionists. They’re willing scapegoats for the super rich of Britain, USA, Holland, France, Italy, etc. who are the real powers. Don’t let appearances fool you. The world’s covert rulers prefer to keep it that way. Rockefeller and Rothschild are merely their showmen.

    The Lords and Queen of England have wealth and power you wouldn’t believe. Rothschild is merely one of their super wealthy tools!

    I do not believe anything! If it requires belief or faith, count me out. Our knowledge is extensive enough to get along nicely! There are no mysteries! There is only human ignorance.
    All of the above info re TC Fry came from this same newsletter:

    Liberty means never having to say “victim.”

    --- Dr. Robert Sniadach
    Politics 'N Proverbs
    "When the RIGHTEOUS are in authority, the people REJOICE, but when the WICKED beareth rule, the people MOURN." -Proverbs 29:2

  11. #40


    Quote Originally Posted by Brassmouth View Post
    Because letting them know we opposed the bailout was SOOOOOO effective. I'm sure convincing them to grant someone a pardon will be a piece of cake.
    Actually - if Bush is trying to paint himself in the "I'm really a pro-market, pro-freedom kinda guy" light, might we not try to get his excellency himself to pardon a federal "offender"?

    I hate the false dichotomy that is being drawn to 'prove' that socialism is the answer to all of our problems, but shouldn't we at least get some concessions from it?
    "You cannot solve these problems with war." - Ron Paul

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    There was a time when I was proud to be an american, after the last 16 yrs of presidents, and Irwin, and the last election, I now have to apologize to people for being part of moronocracy.
    "First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win." - Mahatma Gandhi
    Paul Revere - "The British are coming!"
    Ron Paul - The Bankers are coming!
    "Evil People win when Good People do nothing"

    "You're asking the poor people to bail out the rich. You're asking the innocent
    people to bail out the guilty. You're asking people to just totally defy the Constitution because there's
    no place in the Constitution that says that we can do these things."

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