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  1. #61

    Talking Not everyone speaks American--ahem

    Ay no onerstahn Y eeoo no lie my eengleez. Ay doo goo chob espeeke de eengleez. Eeoo eshood lurn de espahn---oooops---ohm, eh, my lahngwees. Ay no have tu lurn de eengleez; ay jus epress tu (2, two). See oh no? Si, amigose.



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  3. #62
    Quote Originally Posted by mellamojuana View Post
    Not everyone speaks American--ahem
    Yeah I know that. I just wish they would in America!

  4. #63
    As researcher Michael Bailey wrote, "In this reality, language is the highway of how we communicate our thoughts. The gradual and intentional erosion of the vocabulary by those who wish to control us, removes the possibility of any undesirable ideas, as without the words to formulate those ideas, we cannot begin to even think them".
    "Masterful and arrogant wealth, created largely by Government protection of its profits, not content with its domination and influence within a single party, had sought to corrupt them both, and to that end had insinuated itself into the primaries, in order that no candidates might be nominated whose views were not in accord with theirs." (‘Colonel’ Edward Mandell House in 'Philip Dru: Administrator', circa 1912)

  5. #64

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    Quote Originally Posted by lucius View Post
    As researcher Michael Bailey wrote, "In this reality, language is the highway of how we communicate our thoughts. The gradual and intentional erosion of the vocabulary by those who wish to control us, removes the possibility of any undesirable ideas, as without the words to formulate those ideas, we cannot begin to even think them".
    +666! Wonderfully well said, my friend.



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  7. #65
    Worst cases of word-bastardization/glorification:


    • Liberal
      • Connotative - Bleeding-heart socialist.
      • Denotative - Supporter of global free markets and extensive civil liberties.
    • Globalist
      • Connotative - New World Order lackey seeking a tyrannical global government to spy on and squelch naysayers in order to "form a more perfect Union".
      • Denotative - One seeking to weaken or eliminate borders in an attempt to form a more free and diverse global economy.
    • Patriotism
      • Connotative - "Being a good American"
      • Denotative - Blind faith in community and country. Hyper-Nationalism.

  8. #66

    Is Grammar Dying?

    Well, spelling's on the way. LOL.

    (No offense to the OP of this )

    "I'm thinkin' we'll rise again"


  9. #67
    'The Grammar of English Grammars' Project Gutenberg, for use of anyone anywhere at no cost and with almost no restrictions whatsoever (these people are great!), spread it around: http://thepiratebay.org/torrent/4433...lish_Grammars_
    "Masterful and arrogant wealth, created largely by Government protection of its profits, not content with its domination and influence within a single party, had sought to corrupt them both, and to that end had insinuated itself into the primaries, in order that no candidates might be nominated whose views were not in accord with theirs." (‘Colonel’ Edward Mandell House in 'Philip Dru: Administrator', circa 1912)

  10. #68
    language simply evolves, as long as you can still get across the same message there is nothing wrong with saying it with different words or in a different way. If you tried to talk to people in 1776 you would have difficulty probably but that doesn't mean either of our ways of speaking are better or worse.

  11. #69
    i thank its not going bad at all. just mine opininon.

  12. #70
    Language evolves. What we speak reflects, how we write.

    Language reflects our society. We are too busy to type, text full sentences anymore. Life is no longer boring in the 21st century.

  13. #71
    if yuo can raed tihs, you hvae a sgtrane mnid, too.
    Can you raed tihs? Olny 55 plepoe out of 100 can.

    i cdnuolt blveiee taht I cluod aulaclty uesdnatnrd waht I was rdanieg. The phaonmneal pweor of the hmuan mnid, aoccdrnig to a rscheearch at Cmabrigde Uinervtisy, it dseno't mtaetr in waht oerdr the ltteres in a wrod are, the olny iproamtnt tihng is taht the frsit and lsat ltteer be in the rghit pclae. The rset can be a taotl mses and you can sitll raed it whotuit a pboerlm. Tihs is bcuseae the huamn mnid deos not raed ervey lteter by istlef, but the wrod as a wlohe. Azanmig huh? yaeh and I awlyas tghuhot slpeling was ipmorantt! if you can raed tihs forwrad it.

  14. #72
    Quote Originally Posted by mediahasyou View Post
    if yuo can raed tihs, you hvae a sgtrane mnid, too.
    Can you raed tihs? Olny 55 plepoe out of 100 can.

    i cdnuolt blveiee taht I cluod aulaclty uesdnatnrd waht I was rdanieg. The phaonmneal pweor of the hmuan mnid, aoccdrnig to a rscheearch at Cmabrigde Uinervtisy, it dseno't mtaetr in waht oerdr the ltteres in a wrod are, the olny iproamtnt tihng is taht the frsit and lsat ltteer be in the rghit pclae. The rset can be a taotl mses and you can sitll raed it whotuit a pboerlm. Tihs is bcuseae the huamn mnid deos not raed ervey lteter by istlef, but the wrod as a wlohe. Azanmig huh? yaeh and I awlyas tghuhot slpeling was ipmorantt! if you can raed tihs forwrad it.
    I've seen this before. It's an exercise in gestalt theory. This explains why we can understand the backwards lettering in the rEVOLution logo. Still not a good substitute for language skills, though.



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  16. #73
    I noticed today that Obama makes one of the same pronunciation gaffes that Sarah Palin makes: neither pronounce the "g" at the end of various words. Obama says "lookin'" instead of "looking," for example. Tina Fey bashed on Palin for this in one of the recent SNL skits.

  17. #74
    grammar is a myth. english is not a dead language therefore can evolve.

  18. #75
    Quote Originally Posted by ItsTime View Post
    grammar is a myth. english is not a dead language therefore can evolve.
    grammar is a codified system of language that is developed by linguists. The reason grammar is important is that without something to base our communication, there would be constant misunderstanding. There is plenty of room for colloquialisms, but in serious communications, grammar is important-according to the classical linguists and thinkers, as well as myself.

  19. #76
    Quote Originally Posted by heavenlyboy34 View Post
    Really? Please enlighten me on the whole purpose of language. I love language!
    Writing and spoken (sometimes unspoken) communication 1) between individuals and 2) between an individual and a group or groups are all

    language.



    Linguistics is the study of the mechanics of those communications, not defining HOW those communications should work. That is for bureaucrats like in France.
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  20. #77
    My brother says that in his high school, it ok 4 peeple 2 write like this. In fact, u can write hole essays like this and pass! Heck, you can even exclude all these commas and still pass!

    So, wut do u think of that?

  21. #78
    Quote Originally Posted by A. Havnes View Post
    My brother says that in his high school, it ok 4 peeple 2 write like this. In fact, u can write hole essays like this and pass! Heck, you can even exclude all these commas and still pass!

    So, wut do u think of that?
    Probably time to rebuke the mother's decision to enroll him in that particular school.

  22. #79
    Quote Originally Posted by Kludge View Post
    Probably time to rebuke the mother's decision to enroll him in that particular school.
    He's a senior this year, so there's not much chance in that. When I graduated, standards weren't high, but they sure were a lot higher than what today's kids have! That school is falling apart. Luckily, he follows the family tradition of getting most of his education through self study!

  23. #80
    Quote Originally Posted by heavenlyboy34 View Post
    grammar is a codified system of language that is developed by linguists. The reason grammar is important is that without something to base our communication, there would be constant misunderstanding. There is plenty of room for colloquialisms, but in serious communications, grammar is important-according to the classical linguists and thinkers, as well as myself.
    Grammar is definitely important in formal writing. So much of the argument about whether the 2nd Amendment applies to individuals or the National Guard was about the commas in that text and how they affected the meaning of it. Yes, grammar does matter.
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  25. #81
    Haha, this talk about grammar reminds me about school.
    "The best argument against democracy is a five minute conversation with the average voter." -- Winston Churchill

    Damn proud Classical Liberal/Minarchist!

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    The European Commission has just announced an agreement whereby English will be the official language of the European Union rather than German, which was the other possibility.

    As part of the negotiations, the British Government conceded that English spelling had some room for improvement and has accepted a 5- year phase-in plan that would become known as "Euro-English".

    In the first year, "s" will replace the soft "c". Sertainly, this will make the sivil servants jump with joy. The hard "c" will be dropped in favour of "k". This should klear up konfusion, and keyboards kan have one less letter There will be growing publik enthusiasm in the sekond year when the troublesome "ph" will be replaced with "f". This will make words like fotograf 20% shorter.



    In the 3rd year, publik akseptanse of the new spelling
    kan be expekted to reach the stage where! more komplikated changes are possible.


    Governments will enkourage the removal of double letters which have always ben a deterent to akurate speling.



    Also, al wil agre that the horibl mes of the silent "e" in the languag is disgrasful and it should go away.

    By the 4th yer people wil be reseptiv to steps such as



    replasing "th" with "z" and "w" with "v".





    During ze fifz yer, ze unesesary "o" kan be dropd from vords kontaining "ou" and after ziz fifz yer, ve vil hav a reil sensi bl riten styl.



    Zer vil be no mor trubl or difikultis and evrivun vil find it ezi tu understand ech oza. Ze drem of a united urop vil finali kum tru.



    Und efter ze fifz yer, ve vil al be speking German like zey vunted in ze forst plas.



    If zis mad you smil, pleas pas on to oza pepl

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  27. #83
    ^^lmao!!!
    .
    Reality is independent of Popularity.

  28. #84
    Quote Originally Posted by SnappleLlama View Post
    NO, you're not being too picky. It drives me crazy, as well!! Then again, I used to diagram sentences for fun, so I may not be sane.
    Me too! *ah the good old days*
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  30. #86
    Matt, that joke is way too old for a font that big.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    You only want the freedoms that will undermine the nation and lead to the destruction of liberty.

  31. #87
    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    Matt, that joke is way too old for a font that big.
    But the joke was hillarious!

  32. #88
    Lmfao.
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  34. #89
    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    Matt, that joke is way too old for a font that big.
    Really? I had no idea. I just ran across it recently
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  35. #90
    definitely, worse yet, kids are proud of it because the media and entertainment business embraces it. plus we are too PC to criticize it (when we do, we're called racist bigots because its intolerant to foreigners or blacks).

    See Idiocracy, in the future (actually, not so future), people speak a mix of hillbilly, Valleygirl and inner city slang (today we call that redneck, california surfertard, and ebonics)

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