Originally Posted by
Badger Paul
Here's the update on what happened in Nevada with each deleagtes explanation as to why they voted for McCain:
Chris Dyer explains his vote for McCain:
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Paul delegates hand the party a unanimous vote, go to Rage Against the Machine
Ron Paul delegate Chris Dyer told me tonight the state party gave the Paul delegates two choices, vote for John McCain or abstain.
"Party asked nicely for a unanimous vote, we said yes," said Paul delegate Chris Dyer. "They got what they wanted. We got to see Rage (Against the Machine). Everyone wins."
And so the great delegate fight finally comes to an end.
Carl Bunce explains his vote for McCain:
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We were censored and pressured. Period! We have been followed and surrounded by security everywhere we go in MN. We got treated as children the entire time by NV GOP leadership. . We gave the NV GOP their 34 delegates.
Nick Vanderpool (Delegate Organizer) earned our votes or I should say our absense of principles because he talked to us like an adult and not like a spoiled child stomping his feet. He has my respect and NV will not suffer the disfavor of the RNC overlords now. We may be able save our party with much work and talking outloud instead of secret whispers in back rooms.
That is the last olive branch! If we (Freedom Minded Republicans) do not receive any respect starting tomorrow, they (Anyone but Freedom Minded Republicans) will all have a hard time doing anything politically in NV without us on their ass on every issue.
We have learned their game and their tactics. We have out-played them at every step of the way. But when the rules change on a moments notice then we can not play anymore. We must improvise! As we have. NV will have its day in the future. No one is giving up! This is a rigged game and we see that clearer the ever now!
We are still processing all the happenings of this week. We have a lot of intel on the corruption seeded at the national level.
Meeting with other state delegations gave us so much info on other tactics we have not seen yet in NV.
More to come...
Carl Bunce
Arden Osborne explains his vote for McCain:
Quote:I was only asked 'how I would vote' there never was a real vote. no ballot.
My response when asked was that since I had no candidate in the race (there
was only one nominee) I said I would abstain. When I was approached again
and told that I would be the only one keeping the vote from being unanimous,
we then discussed allowing an alternate to vote in my place since I had no
candidate, but that was that - there was no actual vote.
What anyone who is not here may not understand is that this convention was
a staged show. There was nothing to gain by being disrupting the
coronation...There was everything to gain for the future of our movement by
abstaining. Our win was our presence, our loss would have been throwing that
win away by closing the door to the party.
It's easy to criticize from the sidelines, but unless you were here to see
that there was nothing that could have been done that would even be
perceived as a good sign of protest (the mikes were guarded) - then you
can't really see the whole picture.
Lisa Marie Johnson explains her vote for McCain
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We did what was right so we could "fight for another day" as Arden said. Yes, Arden was going to abstain. Carl and Chris considered it too. So did I when I finally was seated.
I repeat, there was no official voting for Ron Paul. Some state leaders were just nice enough to allow their people to have that spoken and then took them away for the final count. The didn't show that on tv. Only Alaska, VP Palin's state, was allowed to mysteriously have their RP votes on the final tally. Same thing for Romney. I know because I stayed till the final gavel.
Abstaining would have been pissing on the party just to make a point rather than admitting the loss we all knew we had days if not weeks earlier. Where would that get us?
They had to come to us, finally, and basically admit we could make them look bad to be spitefull or let them look good to the RNC and earn some respect in a graceful defeat. I know it hurts. Believe me or don't, but it's been the worst birthday I've ever had. But we still learned a lot and if you throw us aside, you throw that knowledge aside also.
In the end, we know, however difficult it was last night and will be for some time, we did what we know in our hearts to be good for the future of our movement. That is a vote for Ron Paul. Pissing away everyone's hard work would have been the end of all of us. That's the reality.
You may say it doesn't matter because I didn't vote for him. But the fact is he wasn't nominated. You can't vote for someone who isn't nominated. I understand your anger. I'd probably feel the same if I wasn't there. It didn't change the nomination. From here on out, those of us who act respectable will be treated with respect. We've earned that, all of us, but it was the delegates who you elected, who delivered it to you, even though you can't see that now.
What kind of advocates for liberty are they if they cannot make a simple argument or negotiate an agreement to abstain or vote for Paul on the first ballot when it would be entirely symbolic and do no harm at all.
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