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Thread: FISA passed in Congress 69-28. Congress & the Prez have failed the American people.

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    FISA passed in Congress 69-28. Congress & the Prez have failed the American people.

    I'm surprised this hasn't been posted here yet.

    http://www.abcnews.go.com/Politics/story?id=5341118

    The constitution is officially dead if it was not already.



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  3. #2
    Is there a way to get recall petitions for these idiots/

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    How the heck are you going to vote yeah on something when you dont know what the whole bill is about? This is truly amazing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JoshLowry View Post
    I'm surprised this hasn't been posted here yet.

    http://www.abcnews.go.com/Politics/story?id=5341118

    The constitution is officially dead if it was not already.
    Here's YAHOO's Post on their front page...

    I CAN'T BELIEVE HOW PAMELA HESS, Associated Press (AP) Writer titles this...

    "Senate bows to Bush, approves Surveillance Bill (FISA)"

    Hey Pamela, you comatose Press Journalist Flunky...How about reporting exactly what this vote did!



    Congress and Executive Branch Collude in Destroying the 4th AMENDMENT of the CONSTITUTION of the United States of America!


    Americans across the country and globe are now SCREWED... Sieg Heil!

    Post those 69 SENATOR's names that voted passage on destroying the U.S. CONSTITUTION

    New Amerikan flag design next bill following the FISA SPY ACT on the Senate Floor: Sample

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    Quote Originally Posted by HOLLYWOOD View Post
    Here's YAHOO's Post on their front page...

    I CAN'T BELIEVE HOW PAMELA HESS, Associated Press (AP) Writer titles this...

    "Senate bows to Bush, approves Surveillance Bill (FISA)"

    Hey Pamela, you comatose Press Journalist Flunky...How about reporting exactly what this vote did!



    Congress and Executive Branch Collude in Destroying the 4th AMENDMENT of the CONSTITUTION of the United States of America!


    Americans across the country and globe are now SCREWED... Sieg Heil!

    Post those 69 SENATOR's names that voted passage on destroying the U.S. CONSTITUTION

    New Amerikan flag design next bill following the FISA SPY ACT on the Senate Floor: Sample

    [IMG][/IMG]
    that flag actually looks kinda nice... But I dont agree with it

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    This quote (below) is from the yahoo version of the article:

    "Just under a third of the Senate, including Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama, supported an amendment that would have stripped immunity from the bill. They were defeated on a 66-32 vote. Republican rival John McCain did not attend the vote.

    Obama ended up voting for the final bill, as did Specter. Feingold voted no."


    Can someone explain to me how a bill like this is voted on and a senator (McCain in this case) just doesn't attend? This seems to happen in all sorts of instances. How can someone do their job if they're not in attendance? I've been wondering about this all year.
    Last edited by 123tim; 07-09-2008 at 08:17 PM.

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    Well, they say the best time to get through to your reps is after they have screwed up. Now it's time to rub their noses in it.

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    I just wrote both of mine.. they both voted for it and the scary part is one is Rep and the other is Dem. That sucks so bad that both parties can't read the constitution at all to find out how to vote... the 4th Amendment would clearly say how to vote on this bill


    The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized. ”
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kludge View Post
    I think the news is pushing me into the apathy that can only come from defeatism =/
    I know.... I have not cried at all in this election cycle even though I have wanted to... but this one brings me so close maybe because I am a CJ major and its like they just took a big red pen and X'ed out the 4th Amendment



    The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized. ”
    “ ”

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    Quote Originally Posted by 123tim View Post
    This quote (below) is from the yahoo version of the article:

    "Just under a third of the Senate, including Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama, supported an amendment that would have stripped immunity from the bill. They were defeated on a 66-32 vote. Republican rival John McCain did not attend the vote.

    Obama ended up voting for the final bill, as did Specter. Feingold voted no."


    Can someone explain to me how a bill like this is voted on and a senator (McCain in this case) just doesn't attend? This seems to happen in all sorts of instances. How can someone do their job if they're not in attendance? I've been wondering about this all year.
    That's odd because GovTrack says McCain voted 'YES' and Obama didn't vote. Hopefully Obama won't be around to sign most of the $#@!ty legislation that gets passed in his term.

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    What I find interesting is the vote distribution, NOT A SINGLE republican voted against this.

    Grouped By Vote Position

    YEAs ---69

    Alexander (R-TN)
    Allard (R-CO)
    Barrasso (R-WY)
    Baucus (D-MT)
    Bayh (D-IN)
    Bennett (R-UT)
    Bond (R-MO)
    Brownback (R-KS)
    Bunning (R-KY)
    Burr (R-NC)
    Carper (D-DE)
    Casey (D-PA)
    Chambliss (R-GA)
    Coburn (R-OK)
    Cochran (R-MS)
    Coleman (R-MN)
    Collins (R-ME)
    Conrad (D-ND)
    Corker (R-TN)
    Cornyn (R-TX)
    Craig (R-ID)
    Crapo (R-ID)
    DeMint (R-SC)
    Dole (R-NC)
    Domenici (R-NM)
    Ensign (R-NV)
    Enzi (R-WY)
    Feinstein (D-CA)
    Graham (R-SC)
    Grassley (R-IA)
    Gregg (R-NH)
    Hagel (R-NE)
    Hatch (R-UT)
    Hutchison (R-TX)
    Inhofe (R-OK)
    Inouye (D-HI)
    Isakson (R-GA)
    Johnson (D-SD)
    Kohl (D-WI)
    Kyl (R-AZ)
    Landrieu (D-LA)
    Lieberman (ID-CT)
    Lincoln (D-AR)
    Lugar (R-IN)
    Martinez (R-FL)
    McCaskill (D-MO)
    McConnell (R-KY)
    Mikulski (D-MD)
    Murkowski (R-AK)
    Nelson (D-FL)
    Nelson (D-NE)
    Obama (D-IL)
    Pryor (D-AR)
    Roberts (R-KS)
    Rockefeller (D-WV)
    Salazar (D-CO)
    Shelby (R-AL)
    Smith (R-OR)
    Snowe (R-ME)
    Specter (R-PA)
    Stevens (R-AK)
    Sununu (R-NH)
    Thune (R-SD)
    Vitter (R-LA)
    Voinovich (R-OH)
    Warner (R-VA)
    Webb (D-VA)
    Whitehouse (D-RI)
    Wicker (R-MS)

    NAYs ---28

    Akaka (D-HI)
    Biden (D-DE)
    Bingaman (D-NM)
    Boxer (D-CA)
    Brown (D-OH)
    Byrd (D-WV)
    Cantwell (D-WA)
    Cardin (D-MD)
    Clinton (D-NY)
    Dodd (D-CT)
    Dorgan (D-ND)
    Durbin (D-IL)
    Feingold (D-WI)
    Harkin (D-IA)
    Kerry (D-MA)
    Klobuchar (D-MN)
    Lautenberg (D-NJ)
    Leahy (D-VT)
    Levin (D-MI)
    Menendez (D-NJ)
    Murray (D-WA)
    Reed (D-RI)
    Reid (D-NV)
    Sanders (I-VT)
    Schumer (D-NY)
    Stabenow (D-MI)
    Tester (D-MT)
    Wyden (D-OR)

    Not Voting - 3

    Kennedy (D-MA)
    McCain (R-AZ)
    Sessions (R-AL)



    Grouped by Home State

    Alabama: Sessions (R-AL), Not Voting Shelby (R-AL), Yea
    Alaska: Murkowski (R-AK), Yea Stevens (R-AK), Yea
    Arizona: Kyl (R-AZ), Yea McCain (R-AZ), Not Voting
    Arkansas: Lincoln (D-AR), Yea Pryor (D-AR), Yea
    California: Boxer (D-CA), Nay Feinstein (D-CA), Yea
    Colorado: Allard (R-CO), Yea Salazar (D-CO), Yea
    Connecticut: Dodd (D-CT), Nay Lieberman (ID-CT), Yea
    Delaware: Biden (D-DE), Nay Carper (D-DE), Yea
    Florida: Martinez (R-FL), Yea Nelson (D-FL), Yea
    Georgia: Chambliss (R-GA), Yea Isakson (R-GA), Yea
    Hawaii: Akaka (D-HI), Nay Inouye (D-HI), Yea
    Idaho: Craig (R-ID), Yea Crapo (R-ID), Yea
    Illinois: Durbin (D-IL), Nay Obama (D-IL), Yea
    Indiana: Bayh (D-IN), Yea Lugar (R-IN), Yea
    Iowa: Grassley (R-IA), Yea Harkin (D-IA), Nay
    Kansas: Brownback (R-KS), Yea Roberts (R-KS), Yea
    Kentucky: Bunning (R-KY), Yea McConnell (R-KY), Yea
    Louisiana: Landrieu (D-LA), Yea Vitter (R-LA), Yea
    Maine: Collins (R-ME), Yea Snowe (R-ME), Yea
    Maryland: Cardin (D-MD), Nay Mikulski (D-MD), Yea
    Massachusetts: Kennedy (D-MA), Not Voting Kerry (D-MA), Nay
    Michigan: Levin (D-MI), Nay Stabenow (D-MI), Nay
    Minnesota: Coleman (R-MN), Yea Klobuchar (D-MN), Nay
    Mississippi: Cochran (R-MS), Yea Wicker (R-MS), Yea
    Missouri: Bond (R-MO), Yea McCaskill (D-MO), Yea
    Montana: Baucus (D-MT), Yea Tester (D-MT), Nay
    Nebraska: Hagel (R-NE), Yea Nelson (D-NE), Yea
    Nevada: Ensign (R-NV), Yea Reid (D-NV), Nay
    New Hampshire: Gregg (R-NH), Yea Sununu (R-NH), Yea
    New Jersey: Lautenberg (D-NJ), Nay Menendez (D-NJ), Nay
    New Mexico: Bingaman (D-NM), Nay Domenici (R-NM), Yea
    New York: Clinton (D-NY), Nay Schumer (D-NY), Nay
    North Carolina: Burr (R-NC), Yea Dole (R-NC), Yea
    North Dakota: Conrad (D-ND), Yea Dorgan (D-ND), Nay
    Ohio: Brown (D-OH), Nay Voinovich (R-OH), Yea
    Oklahoma: Coburn (R-OK), Yea Inhofe (R-OK), Yea
    Oregon: Smith (R-OR), Yea Wyden (D-OR), Nay
    Pennsylvania: Casey (D-PA), Yea Specter (R-PA), Yea
    Rhode Island: Reed (D-RI), Nay Whitehouse (D-RI), Yea
    South Carolina: DeMint (R-SC), Yea Graham (R-SC), Yea
    South Dakota: Johnson (D-SD), Yea Thune (R-SD), Yea
    Tennessee: Alexander (R-TN), Yea Corker (R-TN), Yea
    Texas: Cornyn (R-TX), Yea Hutchison (R-TX), Yea
    Utah: Bennett (R-UT), Yea Hatch (R-UT), Yea
    Vermont: Leahy (D-VT), Nay Sanders (I-VT), Nay
    Virginia: Warner (R-VA), Yea Webb (D-VA), Yea
    Washington: Cantwell (D-WA), Nay Murray (D-WA), Nay
    West Virginia: Byrd (D-WV), Nay Rockefeller (D-WV), Yea
    Wisconsin: Feingold (D-WI), Nay Kohl (D-WI), Yea
    Wyoming: Barrasso (R-WY), Yea Enzi (R-WY), Yea
    "First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win." - Mahatma Gandhi
    Paul Revere - "The British are coming!"
    Ron Paul - The Bankers are coming!
    "Evil People win when Good People do nothing"

    "You're asking the poor people to bail out the rich. You're asking the innocent
    people to bail out the guilty. You're asking people to just totally defy the Constitution because there's
    no place in the Constitution that says that we can do these things."

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    nice my whole damn state voted for this Reps and senators

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    Quote Originally Posted by TastyWheat View Post
    That's odd because GovTrack says McCain voted 'YES' and Obama didn't vote. Hopefully Obama won't be around to sign most of the $#@!ty legislation that gets passed in his term.
    I'm seeing Obama voted Yea on this.



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