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    American / Israeli Dual Citizens in the American Government

    Attorney General - Michael Mukasey



    Head of Homeland Security - Michael Chertoff


    Chairman Pentagon’s Defense Policy Board - Richard Perle


    Deputy Defense Secretary (Former) - Paul Wolfowitz


    Under Secretary of Defense - Douglas Feith


    National Security Council Advisor - Elliott Abrams


    Vice President Dick Cheney’s Chief of Staff (Former) - “Scooter” Libby




    White House Deputy Chief of Staff - Joshua Bolten


    Under Secretary of State for Political Affairs - Marc Grossman


    Director of Policy Planning at the State Department - Richard Haass


    U.S. Trade Representative (Cabinet-level Position) - Robert Zoellick


    Pentagon’s Defense Policy Board - James Schlesinger


    UN Representative (Former) - John Bolton


    Under Secretary for Arms Control - David Wurmser


    Pentagon’s Defense Policy Board - Eliot Cohen


    Senior Advisor to the President - Steve Goldsmith


    Principal Deputy Assistant Secretary - Christopher Gersten


    Assistant Secretary of State - Lincoln Bloomfield


    Deputy Assistant to the President - Jay Lefkowitz


    White House Political Director - Ken Melman


    National Security Study Group - Edward Luttwak


    Pentagon’s Defense Policy Board - Kenneth Adelman


    Defense Intelligence Agency Analyst (Former) - Lawrence (Larry) Franklin


    National Security Council Advisor - Robert Satloff


    President Export-Import Bank U.S. - Mel Sembler


    Deputy Assistant Secretary, Administration for Children and Families - Christopher Gersten


    Assistant Secretary of Housing and Urban Development for Public Affairs
    - Mark Weinberger


    White House Speechwriter - David Frum


    White House Spokesman (Former) - Ari Fleischer


    Pentagon’s Defense Policy Board - Henry Kissinger


    Deputy Secretary of Commerce - Samuel Bodman


    Under Secretary of State for Management - Bonnie Cohen


    Director of Foreign Service Institute - Ruth Davis




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    Are their picture sizes proportional to their loyalty to Israel?

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    Ok gutteck, now that you've laid out the evidence, what do you propose the freedom movement does about it, if anything?
    Maxed out to ALL of Ron Paul's campaigns.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pacelli View Post
    Ok gutteck, now that you've laid out the evidence, what do you propose the freedom movement does about it, if anything?
    Fasten your sit belts hold tight and take care of your family because what’s coming is not pretty.
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    Government is evil no matter who's in charge of it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alex Libman View Post
    Government is evil no matter who's in charge of it.
    Yes Indeed!

    I presume this LINK is where the originating poster found his information:

    http://www.viewzone.com/dualcitizen.html








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    Yep. What we do is demand they be fired, give up the dual thing or just deport them..they have all been caught passing USA intelligence to the Israeli government. FIRE THEM NOW! tones

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    I have always said we live in JSA..... This should be illegal, no dual citizen should be allowed to serve in our government, can we think of other nationals in our government besides israelis as a majority?



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    I agree with the above post. tones

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    Jesus, Richard Perle looks as evil and sinister as he actually is.

    This website has alot of information about this subject.

    http://www.rys2sense.com/anti-neocons/

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    Fox news..... Israeli Spies......

    http://100777.com/node/180
    FJB

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    A new low for these message boards.

    This is basically a list of jewish americans that have positions in the government. I'm not even sure all of these people have dual citizenship, or are just jewish (not that it would matter to most of the people on this forum). Some of these people have been granted dual citizenship because they have a parent that was born in Israel. This would automatically grant you the dual status even if the child has never once been to Israel in his entire life. I got an idea, why dont we just require jews in our government to wear a big yellow star on their shirts so we can all be sure.

    I cant believe that people that stand for the same values that Ron Paul does would contribute to this garbage. His message has been totally hijacked by nutjobs and racists.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Benny45 View Post
    A new low for these message boards.

    This is basically a list of jewish americans that have positions in the government. I'm not even sure all of these people have dual citizenship, or are just jewish (not that it would matter to most of the people on this forum). Some of these people have been granted dual citizenship because they have a parent that was born in Israel. This would automatically grant you the dual status even if the child has never once been to Israel in his entire life. I got an idea, why dont we just require jews in our government to wear a big yellow star on their shirts so we can all be sure.

    I cant believe that people that stand for the same values that Ron Paul does would contribute to this garbage. His message has been totally hijacked by nutjobs and racists.

    Do you have dual American/Israeli citizenship?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Benny45 View Post
    A new low for these message boards.

    This is basically a list of jewish americans that have positions in the government. I'm not even sure all of these people have dual citizenship, or are just jewish (not that it would matter to most of the people on this forum). Some of these people have been granted dual citizenship because they have a parent that was born in Israel. This would automatically grant you the dual status even if the child has never once been to Israel in his entire life. I got an idea, why dont we just require jews in our government to wear a big yellow star on their shirts so we can all be sure.

    I cant believe that people that stand for the same values that Ron Paul does would contribute to this garbage. His message has been totally hijacked by nutjobs and racists.
    As others have pointed out, what racism are you referring to? Jews are not a race. Israelis are not a race. I honestly think this is a big part of the problem. Somehow, the Jewish people have decided that their religion makes them some special "chosen" race because of the bible. Jews are no more a race than Muslims, Buddhists, Catholics, Protestants, Wiccans, or any other. By continually referring to Jews as a race, you imply that Jews are superior to everybody else of other religions (or no religion, in my case).
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    It's funny how most of the people that come to these forums are conservative, unless, this stuff comes up, then they use the liberal... "boo hoo hoo, don't say that, it's not fair"..... you respond in a very defensive way and use that defense as an offensive way, you act like someone is going off in some kind of racially charged way and I don't see that happening, whenever Zionism/Jew/Israel comes up you jump in the air and start in........

    Here, listen to, at least, the first 2 minutes of this, it's funny, but, make sure to take notes so you can complain and cry to the terrible people that allowed this outright offensive "racism".... oh yeah, and don't forget the baseball bats!

    http://www.trilulilu.ro/morbidutz/ecf40c9e0c82ae

    You did know that Ron Paul named names on the House Floor didn't you.....

    It's not Ron's video, but, it is him speaking! Listen and Learn from the Master!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4df1soW7Dho

    He says .....they unconditionally support Israel and have a close alliance with the Likud Party......

    Here is, I believe, the full speech, Part 1 of 11....

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aewpvcxAwTk
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    Quote Originally Posted by Benny45 View Post
    A new low for these message boards.

    This is basically a list of jewish americans that have positions in the government. I'm not even sure all of these people have dual citizenship, or are just jewish (not that it would matter to most of the people on this forum). Some of these people have been granted dual citizenship because they have a parent that was born in Israel. This would automatically grant you the dual status even if the child has never once been to Israel in his entire life. I got an idea, why dont we just require jews in our government to wear a big yellow star on their shirts so we can all be sure.

    I cant believe that people that stand for the same values that Ron Paul does would contribute to this garbage. His message has been totally hijacked by nutjobs and racists.
    I'm amazed at how this board seems to vacillate between reading like a Chomsky polemic to a Der Stürmer weekly, all in the same thread!

    And here I thought it would be a home for Goldwater Conservatives.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Benny45 View Post
    A new low for these message boards.

    This is basically a list of jewish americans that have positions in the government. I'm not even sure all of these people have dual citizenship, or are just jewish (not that it would matter to most of the people on this forum). Some of these people have been granted dual citizenship because they have a parent that was born in Israel. This would automatically grant you the dual status even if the child has never once been to Israel in his entire life. I got an idea, why dont we just require jews in our government to wear a big yellow star on their shirts so we can all be sure.

    I cant believe that people that stand for the same values that Ron Paul does would contribute to this garbage. His message has been totally hijacked by nutjobs and racists.
    Give it up already. We aren't nut jobs our racists. We're sick of our economy being damaged through billions of tax dollars given to Israel with no return for us as well as our national security being damaged through a highly entangling alliance with Israel that has created nothing but enemies in the middle east yet once again no beneficial return for us. Not to mention the billions in tax dollars that is spent on military weapons, equipment, and training for Israel that is then used to racially murder and displace an entire population known as Palestine - this is what is truly repulsive, far more than any simple minded racist bigot.

    I do not really care that much about Jews or Israel. I do not hate Israel but I do hate their Zionist government, what it does to Palestine, what it does to our media, and what it does our government. All I want is to stop giving them money, stop giving them military training, and to stop bombing countries at their request (Iran is next on the list). Just leave them alone and let them take care of themselves, just like any other country.

    Is that really soooo racist?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kraig View Post
    Give it up already. We aren't nut jobs our racists. We're sick of our economy being damaged through billions of tax dollars given to Israel with no return for us as well as our national security being damaged through a highly entangling alliance with Israel that has created nothing but enemies in the middle east yet once again no beneficial return for us. Not to mention the billions in tax dollars that is spent on military weapons, equipment, and training for Israel that is then used to racially murder and displace an entire population known as Palestine - this is what is truly repulsive, far more than any simple minded racist bigot.

    I do not really care that much about Jews or Israel. I do not hate Israel but I do hate their Zionist government, what it does to Palestine, what it does to our media, and what it does our government. All I want is to stop giving them money, stop giving them military training, and to stop bombing countries at their request (Iran is next on the list). Just leave them alone and let them take care of themselves, just like any other country.

    Is that really soooo racist?
    This certainly seems like an even-handed post. I can assume you throw the same hissy fit for our foreign/military aid to Egypt? Saudi Arabia? Are you as tough on the Arab League members that still deny Palestinian Arab refugees citizenship rights?

    If not, that's a double standard, and probably a hint of racism yourself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kraig View Post
    Give it up already. We aren't nut jobs our racists. We're sick of our economy being damaged through billions of tax dollars given to Israel with no return for us as well as our national security being damaged through a highly entangling alliance with Israel that has created nothing but enemies in the middle east yet once again no beneficial return for us.
    This thread had nothing to do with aide to Israel. The original poster listed jews that have or do hold positions in the US government as if it is a negative.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zulf View Post
    Jesus, Richard Perle looks as evil and sinister as he actually is.

    This website has alot of information about this subject.

    http://www.rys2sense.com/anti-neocons/
    I don't think anybody takes the cake(and more) that "Tales of Crypt Keeper" : Michael Chertoff There's your Sinister Dual Allegiance hypocrite Zionist.

    He can stick DHS and the Patriot Act up his!
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    Well..it seems now the neo cons have put more war propaganda out in the news, lying again about saddam having yellow cake and wmd's..they mysteriously "found" them ...they had to do damage control to rile up the American people to bomb Iran for their fake WMD's. Pathetic. TONES

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    I never have really understood that whole "dual citizenship" BS. What is the "official" bogus rationale and justification for it?

    $#@! or get off the pot.<IMHO>

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    Well..these folks want to be duel citizens with Israel and USA even though they weren't even born in Israel. For some reason, the naturalization laws don't apply to people who are duel citizens with Israel. For example, if you are a duel citizen with Mexico and you vote in Mexico it negates your USA citizenship...not so with those who are duel citizens with Israel. Supreme court ruled they get a pass which I consider bull carp. TONES

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    Quote Originally Posted by tonesforjonesbones View Post
    Well..these folks want to be duel citizens with Israel and USA even though they weren't even born in Israel. For some reason, the naturalization laws don't apply to people who are duel citizens with Israel. For example, if you are a duel citizen with Mexico and you vote in Mexico it negates your USA citizenship...not so with those who are duel citizens with Israel. Supreme court ruled they get a pass which I consider bull carp. TONES
    Thanks for the info.

    Jeeze! Well that's even crappier than I assumed. Kinda like the Dems SUPER DELEGATES.

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    Is this list absolutely, verifiably accurate?

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    Yes of course this list is accurate. These people are the neo cons. Please research Neoconservativism. You can find it almost everywhere on the internet. It's Straussian/trotskyite philosophy. Most of the people who follow this philosophy are jewish, they are descendents of the bolsheviks who migrated here after ww1 and ww2. Irving Kristol is the godfather of neoconservativsm...he was a student of Leo Strauss a former trotskyite who migrated from Germany and taught at the University of Chicago (political science) and Paul Dundes Wolfowitz also got his PHd under Strauss. They managed to take over the GOP and through threats to ruining Bush, got all this mess passed as new foreign policy. It is very machiavellian in nature. It stinks and we need to get rid of the culprets from washington and watch out that they don't infiltrate Obama's administration although AIPAC is very powerful and has been known to ruin political careers if the politicians are not in lock step with Israel's agenda. This may not be what you want to hear, but truth rarely is. TONES

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    Quote Originally Posted by tonesforjonesbones View Post
    Yes of course this list is accurate. These people are the neo cons. Please research Neoconservativism. You can find it almost everywhere on the internet. It's Straussian/trotskyite philosophy. Most of the people who follow this philosophy are jewish, they are descendents of the bolsheviks who migrated here after ww1 and ww2. Irving Kristol is the godfather of neoconservativsm...he was a student of Leo Strauss a former trotskyite who migrated from Germany and taught at the University of Chicago (political science) and Paul Dundes Wolfowitz also got his PHd under Strauss. They managed to take over the GOP and through threats to ruining Bush, got all this mess passed as new foreign policy. It is very machiavellian in nature. It stinks and we need to get rid of the culprets from washington and watch out that they don't infiltrate Obama's administration although AIPAC is very powerful and has been known to ruin political careers if the politicians are not in lock step with Israel's agenda. This may not be what you want to hear, but truth rarely is. TONES
    Yes, I understand all of this. I was specifically asking if the dual-citizenship information was accurate and verifiable. I'm not interested in this so much because these guys are Jews or neo-cons or whatever. People have agendas and philosophies. What bothers me is that these people have no real allegiance to the US and this reeks of treason to me. We will get no where arguing the emotional issues or conspiracy theories. Dual-citizenship is a battle that could be won in the hearts and minds of the people.

  32. #28
    Quote Originally Posted by LittleLightShining View Post
    Yes, I understand all of this. I was specifically asking if the dual-citizenship information was accurate and verifiable. I'm not interested in this so much because these guys are Jews or neo-cons or whatever. People have agendas and philosophies. What bothers me is that these people have no real allegiance to the US and this reeks of treason to me. We will get no where arguing the emotional issues or conspiracy theories. Dual-citizenship is a battle that could be won in the hearts and minds of the people.
    No the real issue is that we have people all over the government working for their own special interests and the american people have no idea who they are, what their real motives are, and who is really benefitting. It is a problem of education, representive government is worthless when the people cannot make educated decisions about their leaders. There is a massive disinformation campaign working for the Zionists and they aren't going to roll over and stop lying if we decide to get rid of our dual citizen servant government. Dumb it down to an issue of simply "no more dual citizens in government" and the they will drop their Israeli citizenship but keep their Israeli policy. People need to hear the full truth, we have to become the media.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kraig View Post
    No the real issue is that we have people all over the government working for their own special interests and the american people have no idea who they are, what their real motives are, and who is really benefitting. It is a problem of education, representive government is worthless when the people cannot make educated decisions about their leaders. There is a massive disinformation campaign working for the Zionists and they aren't going to roll over and stop lying if we decide to get rid of our dual citizen servant government. Dumb it down to an issue of simply "no more dual citizens in government" and the they will drop their Israeli citizenship but keep their Israeli policy. People need to hear the full truth, we have to become the media.
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    So much for Gods chosen people

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