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    Quote Originally Posted by Luft97 View Post
    I will support Barr/Root for president. On the other hand, I will always support Ron in any elections he is trying to win.

    Same here. I am going to be in Ohio come November and I've checked & neither the LP or CP is on the ballot in Ohio. What does it take to get ballot access in a state? If worse comes to worse, can't I just write in Barr's name on the ballot?



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    Quote Originally Posted by slacker921 View Post
    If the Paul supporters are going to get behind Barr they need to do it today. If they wait until September it will be far, far too late for Barr to do anything. If every Paul supporter donated $40 to Barr then he'd have funds to advertise and get on the TV talk shows constantly for weeks and start affecting the polls. If he can get 15% in the national polls then he's in the debates. If he's in the debates then...

    It's a catch-22 situation. If we wait until September then Barr has no chance.
    If we jump on board with Barr now and then Paul does something surprising or is somehow by some miracle picked as the GOP nominee then we'll have to defeat Barr whom we just worked hard to build up.

    The 64 cent question is.. what is Paul going to do with the 4+ million bucks he has sitting in the bank?
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    Perfection is simply not obtainable... Thusly, I would rather contend with the inconveniences of too much liberty than contend with the inconveniences of not enough...
    I saw that the State was half-witted, that it was timid as a lone woman with her silver spoons, and that it did not know its friends from its foes, and I lost all remaining respect for it, and pitied it."
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    Quote Originally Posted by OptionsTrader View Post
    Nope. As much as I like sound money, to me the war is my number one issue. The patriot act vote are enough to make him unsupportable in my eyes and in the eyes of a large percentage of the movement IMO. Barr is no Paul and anything less than Paul cannot beat Obama anyway. Support him if you like, but don't expect me to or anyone else whose main issue is the anti-war anti-patriot act stance of Paul.

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    Those of you who can't stand Barr should read this before you decide he's the devil -

    http://www.spectator.org/dsp_article.asp?art_id=13262

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    Quote Originally Posted by Don Wills View Post
    Those of you who can't stand Barr should read this before you decide he's the devil -

    http://www.spectator.org/dsp_article.asp?art_id=13262
    Now that is too reasonable.
    We rather see optionstrader going around defaming one of our teammates.
    I love how he is single-handedly uniting all of us around his "view" of how all things should be.
    To him, there is no reason. And he will not read what you post because it doesn't fit his agenda.

    Now other people... may actually see for themselves, and I hope they do.

    I wasn't a barr supporter, but i do support the people who are on his staff.
    They are trusted, long time libertarians who know and support him.
    "The easy confidence with which I know another man's religion is folly teaches me to suspect that my own is also." ~ Mark Twain.
    Quote Originally Posted by reduen View Post
    Perfection is simply not obtainable... Thusly, I would rather contend with the inconveniences of too much liberty than contend with the inconveniences of not enough...
    I saw that the State was half-witted, that it was timid as a lone woman with her silver spoons, and that it did not know its friends from its foes, and I lost all remaining respect for it, and pitied it."
    --Henry David Thoreau

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    Quote Originally Posted by torchbearer View Post
    Now that is too reasonable.
    We rather see optionstrader going around defaming one of our teammates.
    I love how he is single-handedly uniting all of us around his "view" of how all things should be.
    To him, there is no reason. And he will not read what you post because it doesn't fit his agenda.

    Now other people... may actually see for themselves, and I hope they do.

    I wasn't a barr supporter, but i do support the people who are on his staff.
    They are trusted, long time libertarians who know and support him.
    The PATRIOT Act, the Drug War and the War on Terror are the things where the intelligence community has the most knowledge about. Even former CIA agents like Barr would know a thing or two about decision making at the very least. Barr also seems to like party politics. He supports Bush's policies but when Mr. Clinton does something in the Oval office, Barr is one of the first to use it against him.

    I try not to support hypocrites and I hope the rest of the freedom advocates will call Barr out on his past behavior.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Libertarian Ideals View Post
    The PATRIOT Act, the Drug War and the War on Terror are the things where the intelligence community has the most knowledge about. Even former CIA agents like Barr would know a thing or two about decision making at the very least. Barr also seems to like party politics. He supports Bush's policies but when Mr. Clinton does something in the Oval office, Barr is one of the first to use it against him.

    I try not to support hypocrites and I hope the rest of the freedom advocates will call Barr out on his past behavior.
    "Saul"s record on christians wasn't that great either until 'he saw the light'.
    People still see his letters as credible.
    I believe people can genuinely change their positions, and will give them that benefit until they prove otherwise.
    Imagine, you vote for the patriot act because you were caught up in the fear of that moment, and later, you see how the government is abusing people with it.... would that not change your mind?
    Then after that change.. you start to look around you at the other deceitful things the government is doing to people...
    I can see how the guy could change... and he isn't totally a johnny-come lately like Gravel was...
    Plus, he surrounds himself, with long time libertarians, some i personally know and trust.
    "The easy confidence with which I know another man's religion is folly teaches me to suspect that my own is also." ~ Mark Twain.
    Quote Originally Posted by reduen View Post
    Perfection is simply not obtainable... Thusly, I would rather contend with the inconveniences of too much liberty than contend with the inconveniences of not enough...
    I saw that the State was half-witted, that it was timid as a lone woman with her silver spoons, and that it did not know its friends from its foes, and I lost all remaining respect for it, and pitied it."
    --Henry David Thoreau

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    As long as Paul is still in it, my full support is behind him. When and if he loses the nomination, I will fully back Barr.

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    I just read the "Why I Like Barr" article offered above, and I must confess, I am simply not convinced. For me, issues such as the PATRIOT ACT, our out-of-control foreign policy and the draconian drug war are a higher priority than a fair tax compromise.

    Call me the devil if you must, but assuming things follow their current trajectory, I'm voting Obama come November.

    For your consideration:

    http://zaphodforpresident.com/2008/0...esident-obama/

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