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    Supreme Court Ruling

    Anybody have thoughts on this? Could someone really get arrested for sending the email I underlined below? If this is the case I could see the prisons full of innocent people in a matter of months...

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080519/...tus_child_porn

    Supreme Court upholds part of anti-child porn law By MARK SHERMAN, Associated Press Writer
    49 minutes ago



    WASHINGTON - The Supreme Court upheld criminal penalties Monday for promoting child pornography.

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    The court, in a 7-2 decision, brushed aside concerns that the law could apply to mainstream movies that depict adolescent sex, classic literature or innocent e-mails that describe pictures of grandchildren.

    The ruling upheld part of a 2003 law that also prohibits possession of child porn. It replaced an earlier law against child pornography that the court struck down as unconstitutional.

    The law sets a five-year mandatory prison term for promoting, or pandering, child porn. It does not require that someone actually possess child pornography. Opponents have said the law could apply to movies like "Traffic" or "Titanic" that depict adolescent sex.

    But Justice Antonin Scalia, in his opinion for the court, said the law does not cover movie sex. there is no "possibility that virtual child pornography or sex between youthful-looking adult actors might be covered by the term 'simulated sexual intercourse.'" Scalia said.

    Likewise, Scalia said, First Amendment protections do not apply to "offers to provide or requests to obtain child pornography."

    Justice David Souter, joined by Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg, dissented. Souter said promotion of images that are not real children engaging in pornography still could be the basis for prosecution under the law. Possession of those images, on the other hand, may not be prosecuted, Souter said.

    "I believe that maintaining the First Amendment protection of expression we have previously held to cover fake child pornography requires a limit to the law's criminalization of pandering proposals," Souter said.

    The 11th U.S. Circuit of Appeals struck down the provision. The Atlanta-based court said it makes a crime out of merely talking about illegal images or possessing innocent materials that someone else might believe is pornography.

    In the appeals court's view, the law could apply to an e-mail sent by a grandparent and entitled "Good pics of kids in bed," showing grandchildren dressed in pajamas.

    In 2002, the court struck down key provisions of a 1996 child pornography law because they called into question legitimate educational, scientific or artistic depictions of youthful sex.

    Congress responded the next year with the PROTECT Act, which contains the provision under challenge in the current case.

    Authorities arrested Michael Williams in an undercover operation aimed at fighting child exploitation on the Internet. A Secret Service agent engaged Williams in an Internet chat room, where they swapped non-pornographic photographs. Williams advertised himself as "Dad of toddler has 'good' pics of her an me for swap of your toddler pics, or live cam."

    After the initial photo exchange, Williams allegedly posted seven images of actual minors engaging in sexually explicit conduct. Agents who executed a search warrant found 22 child porn images on Williams' home computer.

    Williams also was convicted of possession of child pornography. That conviction, and the resulting five-year prison term, was not challenged.

    The case is U.S. v. Williams, 06-694.



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    Kiddie porn is nothing but an excuse to invade your privacy.

    In less than 50 years what will be said is that you should not have the right to privacy for what you buy at the grocery store because healthy people should not have to pay for you buying unhealthy food. Its an excuse. If it wasnt kiddie porn it would just be something else.
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    I seriously hope not. I can't even explain how bad that would be.

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    I can't imagine grandma on the sex offender list but it looks like that's where our society is headed.

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    Liberty is lost through complacency and a subservient mindset. When we accept or even welcome automobile checkpoints, random searches, mandatory identification cards, and paramilitary police in our streets, we have lost a vital part of our American heritage. America was born of protest, revolution, and mistrust of government. Subservient societies neither maintain nor deserve freedom for long.
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    They've used the exact same excuse here in Australia.. government run firewall, subject to all ISP's..

    OHHH nooo... there is Net nanny etc etc... NOooo we need government control of the internet!
    Makes me fcken sick.
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    Conza, why do you even bother? lol.
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