A Blueprint for Wake Up.

[Conza88]

Unfortunately my friend,
Your scenario is overly romantic.
Common sense, and analytical observation is not the first phase.
The first phase is fascism.
Check out Mussolini.

What part of the First American Revolution didn't you understand?
Apart from stating the obvious, I'm willing to say - it was the beginning.
We're already in the tyrannical stage.

"When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty."
~ Thomas Jefferson

Not sure what phase book you're following. From the one I'm reading, the first phase is already underway. Hence, the moving onto the second phase - getting out of it. HENCE, Common Sense by Thomas Paine - and HENCE, Revolution: A Manifesto by Ron Paul.

Anywayyy... this thread is for waking people up, NOT "not caring, it won't change anything type of bs attitudes". That defeatist attitude can GTFO. If you can't see that fine, remain skeptical - but do me a favor... whilst you sit in your seat & shoot down Hope with benign platitudes.

Why don't you go ahead & get chipped now. I hear they have early bird rates.

[Ozwest]

What part of the First American Revolution didn't you understand?
Apart from stating the obvious, I'm willing to say - it was the beginning.
Anywayyy... this thread is for waking people up, NOT "not giving a $#@!, it won't change anything type of bull$#@! attitudes". That defeatist attitude can GTFO.

Why don't you go ahead and get chipped now. I hear they have early bird rates.

Hooly dooly!

No reason to listen to common sense.

I lived in America for 17 years.

I might have believed you before Bush/Cheney.

PS - I can guarantee you I will never be chipped.

[Conza88]

Ok moving on..

The Tide is Turning!!
Posted May 12th, 2008 by Nui

The tide is turning. My wife and I were out antique shopping in some of the smaller towns in Texas.
Towns such as Schulenberg, Bertram, Burnet, Lampasas. The winds are changing and we could tell from just chatting with store owners. In quite a few of these towns, the people we talked to would be described as elderly, over 60, conservative and many of them Christians as far as we could tell. Why I say that the winds are blowing another direction is that only a year ago, the general consensus when we would be traveling around Texas and chatting with people was Bush this, Bush that. Let's go get them in Iraq. The war is good.

Well, from the temperature this weekend, it has changed. These people were mad. Mad , Mad. They were actually swearing. Using words such as crooks, liars, etc. They were talking about how the fellows up in Wall Street were a bunch of crooks. Had one group talk about
lynching would be good for a group of them. Now, I would have to say that these people that were expressing
their anger were feeling betrayed. I think they now know that they have been lied to. Betrayal is a funny thing. It will create an anger that is very deep. They were putting two and two together and realizing that finance, government, pharmaceuticals, hospitals, media were working together and stealing from the middle class. Lying and stealing. The media was a topic of conversation and most of them cannot stand to watch the "crap" that is on the news nowadays. Most of these logical thinking people realize that something is very wrong. They are waking up.........

Err what where you saying?

[Conza88]

Added to Step 3.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LGEdDd5zsHo

[rancher89]

Thanks Conza, a lot of people have really enjoyed your 'list'

[withallmyheart]

Great post Conza.
Thank you for sharing this major undertaking.

[Uncle_Rahn]

Good work! Conza is that you? You little joey....

[Knightskye]

I think they should watch Outfoxed before these two:

Aaron Russo's: America Freedom to Fascism
The Truth & Lies of 9/11

If you read them the titles, that alone would scare them off. But I think they'd watch Outfoxed.

[Conza88]

I think they should watch Outfoxed before these two:

Aaron Russo's: America Freedom to Fascism
The Truth & Lies of 9/11

If you read them the titles, that alone would scare them off. But I think they'd watch Outfoxed.

Hmmm v. good point. Will have to think of a reworking.

[Conza88]

Thanks Conza, a lot of people have really enjoyed your 'list'

Great post Conza.
Thank you for sharing this major undertaking.

Good work! Conza is that you? You little joey....

No problem guys. Pleasure is all mine. A man does what he can. LoL, heyaa Rahn.

I think they should watch Outfoxed before these two:
Aaron Russo's: America Freedom to Fascism
The Truth & Lies of 9/11
If you read them the titles, that alone would scare them off. But I think they'd watch Outfoxed.

Considering swapping, Step 3 - The Media is not your information friend, with Step 2. You have been lied too..

I wonder if that makes more sense? What ya think?

[Conza88]

[oilboiler]

Thanks for that. I copied the post into word and saved it as an html file. I have seen some of these, but others are new.

And ~~~bump~~~

[Conza88]

Thanks for that. I copied the post into word and saved it as an html file. I have seen some of these, but others are new.

And ~~~bump~~~

Yea, lot of people been contacting me - and asking permission to use my lists on sites.. All get given the go ahead..

Just please let me know before hand. Its polite

[Conza88]

More important than ever.

[EternalVigilanc3]

That is awesome thank you

[pacelli]

Since it was asked in the OP, I've studied psychology through the doctorate level. This subject of changing an individual's fundamental beliefs is extremely complicated. Each person you approach has their own value system which will draw them toward or away from a particular subject. Mental heuristics (i.e. cognitive shortcuts) come into heavy play here.

On a very simple level, a few examples:

1)Someone gives me a 2-hour documentary to watch. I don't feel like sitting through it. I watch the first minute of it and find something more rewarding to do with my time, because I don't like documentaries. The ball game is more rewarding, because I've watched the ball game all of my life.

2) Someone links me to a documentary to watch. The documentary has the word "Fascism" in the title. I immediately conclude that it is a conspiracy-based video and don't bother watching the documentary.

3) Someone gives me a documentary to watch and tells me to "wake up", or they tell me "this is the truth". I feel like they are putting me down, and trying to make me feel like I am stupid and they are smarter than I am. This makes me feel irritated. I immediately decide that anything this person gives me is a reflection of their "one up" approach, thus I will not watch it.

The way to defeat mental heuristics is to apply a highly individualized approach to the individual with whom you are engaged. It helps to do more listening than talking. You will quickly learn the things they value when you hear the vocabulary words they use and the subjects they freely initiate. Hone in on anything that smacks of your value system, reinforce that with nonverbal communication, and verbally redirect the conversation to that particular topic. Jumping around from subject to subject is not advisable. Each person is a long-term campaign, and many of those campaigns may be dead ends. It is sad, but true.

There is also the issue of context. If someone is in the middle of a private activity, and you interrupt that activity, most people will immediately be defensive and suspicious of whatever you tell them.

Finally, examine costs/benefits. There are costs and benefits associated with holding a particular belief system. If the cost of openly evaluating information is the perceived sacrifice of an entrenched belief, it is likely that the person will become defensive and engage in a cognitive heuristic.

[Conza88]

Dang, thanks pacelli theres some good advice in there.

[pacelli]

Dang, thanks pacelli theres some good advice in there.

Sure thing. Feel free to ask any further questions about all of these things, usually when I put my psychologist hat on, I become a bit verbose! lol

[Nyte]

Step 10. Unintended Consequences

Unintended Consequences by John Ross
Front Sight Firearms Training Institute
SurvivalBlog.com

[ronpaulhawaii]

Since it was asked in the OP, I've studied psychology through the doctorate level. This subject of changing an individual's fundamental beliefs is extremely complicated. Each person you approach has their own value system which will draw them toward or away from a particular subject. Mental heuristics (i.e. cognitive shortcuts) come into heavy play here.

On a very simple level, a few examples:

1)Someone gives me a 2-hour documentary to watch. I don't feel like sitting through it. I watch the first minute of it and find something more rewarding to do with my time, because I don't like documentaries. The ball game is more rewarding, because I've watched the ball game all of my life.

2) Someone links me to a documentary to watch. The documentary has the word "Fascism" in the title. I immediately conclude that it is a conspiracy-based video and don't bother watching the documentary.

3) Someone gives me a documentary to watch and tells me to "wake up", or they tell me "this is the truth". I feel like they are putting me down, and trying to make me feel like I am stupid and they are smarter than I am. This makes me feel irritated. I immediately decide that anything this person gives me is a reflection of their "one up" approach, thus I will not watch it.

The way to defeat mental heuristics is to apply a highly individualized approach to the individual with whom you are engaged. It helps to do more listening than talking. You will quickly learn the things they value when you hear the vocabulary words they use and the subjects they freely initiate. Hone in on anything that smacks of your value system, reinforce that with nonverbal communication, and verbally redirect the conversation to that particular topic. Jumping around from subject to subject is not advisable. Each person is a long-term campaign, and many of those campaigns may be dead ends. It is sad, but true.

There is also the issue of context. If someone is in the middle of a private activity, and you interrupt that activity, most people will immediately be defensive and suspicious of whatever you tell them.

Finally, examine costs/benefits. There are costs and benefits associated with holding a particular belief system. If the cost of openly evaluating information is the perceived sacrifice of an entrenched belief, it is likely that the person will become defensive and engage in a cognitive heuristic.

Post of the day for me, and great thread Conza...

[Conza88]

I spouse it's good to remember.. that there are people out there who are 'open' to things..

So blanket campaigning can work. Although... there will be a few nothings & no resulters.. but if you pick up some gems - and wake them up, then that's what makes it worth it.

[princessredtights]

Conza! WOW!

What a great list - (as all your lists are wonderful)

Our RP group is looking to start a liberty education outreach in the fall- one video per month - (probably) at the public library - and we'll be inviting the public (via newspaper and web) -

would you mind if we used your format?


Thanks -

Karen

[revolutionman]

awsome list!

[raystone]

Aaron Russo's: America Freedom to Fascism
The Truth & Lies of 9/11

If you read them the titles, that alone would scare them off.

Remember when marketing AFTF to mainsteam, to present it as

"From the producer of Trading Places and The Rose, Aaron Russo's America:Freedom to Facism."

Mainstream will buy into it watching it much easier.

[nelsonwinters]

First I'd like to say excellent post Conza and excellent comments Pacelli. I am very interested in using videos to help educate people. I'm currently involved in creating Operation Education, a web site that pays people to view videos and provide feedback. This way the user feels that not only do we value their time, but we also value their opinion. We can use the feedback to help determine which videos are most effective. Over time, we could get more sophisticated and break down which videos are most effective among different demographics. You can check out our simple report comparing the videos here:

http://operationeducation.org/reports/rptVideos.cfm
(you can review the responses if you click on the number of responses)

I agree with Pacelli that changing an individual's fundamental beliefs is difficult. Fortunately, many people don't know what to believe. Regardless whether this is due to age, or obscurity of a certain topic or whatever, most people don't know what's going on. They're not stupid. They're not asleep. They're drowning! Drowning in too much bad information, too much gossip news (doesn't matter if it's Britney or Barack... just gossip), too much entertainment, too much advertisements and propaganda, too much work, too much change! People are only as smart as the information that they have to make decisions.

Since it was asked in the OP, I've studied psychology through the doctorate level. This subject of changing an individual's fundamental beliefs is extremely complicated. Each person you approach has their own value system which will draw them toward or away from a particular subject. Mental heuristics (i.e. cognitive shortcuts) come into heavy play here.

On a very simple level, a few examples:

1)Someone gives me a 2-hour documentary to watch. I don't feel like sitting through it. I watch the first minute of it and find something more rewarding to do with my time, because I don't like documentaries. The ball game is more rewarding, because I've watched the ball game all of my life.

2) Someone links me to a documentary to watch. The documentary has the word "Fascism" in the title. I immediately conclude that it is a conspiracy-based video and don't bother watching the documentary.

3) Someone gives me a documentary to watch and tells me to "wake up", or they tell me "this is the truth". I feel like they are putting me down, and trying to make me feel like I am stupid and they are smarter than I am. This makes me feel irritated. I immediately decide that anything this person gives me is a reflection of their "one up" approach, thus I will not watch it.

The way to defeat mental heuristics is to apply a highly individualized approach to the individual with whom you are engaged. It helps to do more listening than talking. You will quickly learn the things they value when you hear the vocabulary words they use and the subjects they freely initiate. Hone in on anything that smacks of your value system, reinforce that with nonverbal communication, and verbally redirect the conversation to that particular topic. Jumping around from subject to subject is not advisable. Each person is a long-term campaign, and many of those campaigns may be dead ends. It is sad, but true.

There is also the issue of context. If someone is in the middle of a private activity, and you interrupt that activity, most people will immediately be defensive and suspicious of whatever you tell them.

Finally, examine costs/benefits. There are costs and benefits associated with holding a particular belief system. If the cost of openly evaluating information is the perceived sacrifice of an entrenched belief, it is likely that the person will become defensive and engage in a cognitive heuristic.

[Virginia Libertarian]

bump forever

[goat farmer]

This may be something you want to add in there somewhere:


http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...GKiO4wKWh-SXDw

[Mark]

This series may help in some regard.
Liberty Sells Itself [1/3], [2/3], [3/3]

Step 1. Detachment (Time to Open the Mind)
The Matrix: Trilogy
Animal Farm
1984
The End of America - Naomi Wolf

Step 2. You have been lied too.
George Carlin (Who Owns You Americans?)
How to Create an Angry American
Aaron Russo's: America Freedom to Fascism
The Truth & Lies of 9/11

Step 3. The Media is not your information friend.
The Network
Good Night & Good Luck
Media-Opoly
Spin
Outfoxed: Rupert Murdoch's War On Journalism
Manufacturing Consent

Step 4. The War on Terror, is not what you think.
Don't be a Sucker
American WARNING
The Power of Nightmares Part 1, Part 2, Part 3
Taxi To The Dark Side
The Ground Truth: The Human Cost of War

Step 5. Government is the problem, not the solution.
The Philosophy of Liberty
The Proper Role of Government
The Law by Frederick Basiat
Revolution: a Manifesto by Ron Paul
Road to Serfdom by Hayek

Step 6. The world is run on self-interest
Atlas Shrugged

Step 7. The Money System - what it is & the International Bankers
Money as Debt
Creature From Jekyll Island - A Second Look at the Federal Reserve
The Price of Oil is not rising, the value of the dollar is falling

Step 8. False left, false right - One party system, two faces of evil.
We are the Ones we've been Waiting For
Democrats elected to end the Iraq war
America is not a democracy.
An Idea whose time has come

Step 9. The New World Order
Historic Interview with Aaron Russo
North American Union & VChip Truth
Endgame
Esoteric Agenda

Cognitive Dissonance Articles
http://www.learningandteaching.info/...dissonance.htm
http://www.pabia.org/Archives/Newsle...dissonance.htm
http://changingminds.org/explanation...dissonance.htm
http://tip.psychology.org/festinge.html
http://www.afirstlook.com/archive/cogdiss.cfm?
http://www.colorado.edu/communicatio...ry/dissonance/
http://wwwthesixthestate.blogspot.co...cognitive.html
http://www.perrspectives.com/articles/art_cogdis02.htm
http://www.onlinejournal.com/artman/...icle_628.shtml
http://www.learningandteaching.info/...g/resistan.htm

Conza88, I'm loving you're efforts here, including the book list: http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=79751

and Liberty list: http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=130993

One note though, the 3 "Liberty Sells Itself" youtube links are showing as "Private".

[Conza88]

Conza88, I'm loving you're efforts here, including the book list: http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=79751

and Liberty list: http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=130993

One note though, the 3 "Liberty Sells Itself" youtube links are showing as "Private".

Thanks!

I've fixed up those links, so they should be all good to go now.

When I get more time, I'll be rejigging / updating all my lists .

[Conza88]

This may be something you want to add in there somewhere:


http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...GKiO4wKWh-SXDw

True. thanks. Added in.