Dealing with CJ majors

[bill50]

CJ means criminal justice...aka...do whatever the unconstitutional law says. I just got in an argument tonight with some kid that majors in CJ at my school. I major in math, but even though most of my professors would rather believe the media is right as they reject almost certain hypotheses (one is a top professional in the study of the Reimann Hypothesis, CJ and law are two of the bigger majors at my college and seem to take president over logic and reason.

So my question is, how do I come up with a valid argument that even a drunk understands. The people that are educated to the PhD level (at least 95% of the doctors of philosophy) have been taught economics by the people, or the teachers of the people, how economics work. The economics majors at my college are Obama supporters for God's sake. how do you get around the media control?

[Kalifornia]

don't waste your time on cj majors. tell philosophy majors to read locke and mills. econ majors that don't get it by now are communists.

this movement needs common men common sense anyway, academics have none .

[bill50]

I posted on another forum that one of my professors told me Ron Paul's ideas would never work. He said that wanting to go on the gold standard either meant Ron Paul was stupid or that he was trying to use it as a radical way to gain support. Someone questioned the credentials of my school because of what the professor said. But almost every other Economics professor in this country believes the same crap he does.

And since you mentioned economics majors have turned into communists, one of my friends that goes to different school that I had to leave for the extensive number of socialists attending I found out is supporter of Lenin. How do you support a man that killed millions and and applied a theory that almost lead to global nuclear war?

[constituent]

And since you mentioned economics majors have turned into communists, one of my friends that goes to different school that I had to leave for the extensive number of socialists attending I found out is supporter of Lenin. How do you support a man that killed millions and and applied a theory that almost lead to global nuclear war?

don't fool yourself, the same could be said for the good ol' us of a.

[nate895]

I posted on another forum that one of my professors told me Ron Paul's ideas would never work. He said that wanting to go on the gold standard either meant Ron Paul was stupid or that he was trying to use it as a radical way to gain support. Someone questioned the credentials of my school because of what the professor said. But almost every other Economics professor in this country believes the same crap he does.

And since you mentioned economics majors have turned into communists, one of my friends that goes to different school that I had to leave for the extensive number of socialists attending I found out is supporter of Lenin. How do you support a man that killed millions and and applied a theory that almost lead to global nuclear war?

Only four schools teach Austrian Economics:

George Mason University
New York University
Auburn University
San Jose State University

[zadrock]

Only four schools teach Austrian Economics:

George Mason University
New York University
Auburn University
San Jose State University

Anyone have any idea which one is best? I've been thinking about grad school in Austrian econ. I live near GM, but I'm from NY and my wife is from SJ, so I'd be open to those two also...

Z

[nate895]

Anyone have any idea which one is best? I've been thinking about grad school in Austrian econ. I live near GM, but I'm from NY and my wife is from SJ, so I'd be open to those two also...

Z

It ranks NYU as 34th at US News and World Report, Auburn is 96th, GMU is third tier, and SJSU is good with their Graduate Program, but I can't find info beyond that.

[Gadsden Flag]

I am also a math major. Most of my professors remind me of myself. Kind of detached from the real world and very idealistic.

People who major in CJ tend to be more 'streetwise' and 'if it isn't broke, don't fix it'. Not a bad way to be, but they tend to believe that things are fine as they are and that people who want to change them are kind of crazy.




But when you have real discussions with people, don't talk about media control, etc. It just instantly turns people off. I had a three-way discussion with someone a while back, me and another RP supporter talking to an Obama supporter.

She started calling him brainwashed and ignorant and it was just really embarrassing. Needless to say he didn't change his mind about anything.






What I like to do is the Socratic method. Just ask lots of questions in a friendly way until the person contradicts themselves--Virtually all 'common sense' political arguments are self contradicting. Then when they come to that stumbling point, state your own views in a friendly way. Don't insult them or tell them they're wrong. In fact, act like they agree with you even though they don't.

[pinkmandy]

Go to GMU. That puts you VERY close to DC and perhaps more opportunity to be involved politically or at least gain that experience (maybe you could get yourself on RP's staff?). I'm not biased because I graduated from GMU or anything!

[Gadsden Flag]

don't fool yourself, the same could be said for the good ol' us of a.

Um...what?

[nate895]

Go to GMU. That puts you VERY close to DC and perhaps more opportunity to be involved politically or at least gain that experience (maybe you could get yourself on RP's staff?). I'm not biased because I graduated from GMU or anything!

US News and World Report puts it at 3rd tier. I have a sneaking suspicion that it is because it has an ounce of conservatism on campus, and we can't have that. Would I be correct in that suspicion?

[DrYongrel]

Go to GMU. That puts you VERY close to DC and perhaps more opportunity to be involved politically or at least gain that experience (maybe you could get yourself on RP's staff?). I'm not biased because I graduated from GMU or anything!

It's also a commuter school, which is dead on the weekends.

AU is where it's at.

[pinkmandy]

There is some conservatism for sure but I also had few "progressive" professors. I majored in Govt & Politics and can say there was a balance, perhaps leaning more to the right than left. My international law prof was very conservative- adamant about US sovereignty- banging it into our heads that we are only bound by laws we agree to, that the ICJ has only the power we give it, etc. Same with my const law prof. So I guess it was rounded out. Their courses on Russian history, govt, etc. are very good (Katz is a great prof). Most of my professors were experienced with their subject since they're so close to it, kwim? They were active themselves, they followed what was going on closely. Others still worked in the system (one prof was a lawyer for DOJ for example) so I think if your interests are in politics right now it's a good place to be.

[pinkmandy]

It's also a commuter school, which is dead on the weekends.

AU is where it's at.

Very true. There are a lot of commuters- I think only freshman for the most part actually live on campus. A lot of adult students, too. I commuted as well so I can't say what the nightlife was like. There are a lot of smaller clubs and such in the area but the big ones are in DC.