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Marijuana has good trade potential.... >.>
That all depends on where you live. You can only grow some things in some places. Your best bet is to grow food that keeps like potato's and such. Marijuana will only grow in some places. If you can grow good tomato's outside then you can grow marijuana also. But what good will marijuana do? Are you going to eat it? ( ya i know, brownies) Are you going to sell it in a time when people are starving? Don't think so. Are you going to make rope and clothing out of it? Maybe there will be some call for the dankens when $#@! hits the fan.
seeds are actualy one of the best foods and when properly polinated can be over 50% of the plant weight and the herb itself has nutritional value as well
heres a quick link and quote
http://www.globalhemp.com/Archives/E...hempseed1.html
Seeds of the plant cannabis sativa, hemp seed, contain all the essential amino acids and essential fatty acids necessary to maintain healthy human life. No other single plant source has the essential amino acids in such an easily digestible form, nor has the essential fatty acids in as perfect a ratio to meet human nutritional needs.
Last edited by evilfunnystuff; 04-12-2008 at 10:56 PM.
hemp.
you can make anything out of it!
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I believe you should raise Mushrooms . They are getting really popular. I am starting a bunch myself. Also for your food plant. Try potatoes. They are a great souce of minerals and vitamins. I was just reading how the world is turning to potatoes as there is such a scarcity of wheat and rice
"How to Make the Garden Pay"
http://books.google.com/books?id=N9h...tsec=titlepage
True that! In fact, until recently, higher grade cannibis was higher priced than gold, steady at $600/ounce or more in some areas.Originally Posted by Kludge
Even when TSHTF there will always be people who want it and are willing to pay the price or barter for it.
Remember, Prohibition and the Great Depression shared a decade together and plenty of people were glad to pay the higher price for their hooch.
Well he can't eat cannibis. If anyone is interested in Mushroom growing look up Fungi Perfecti
on the net and they will send you a mag on getting spawn of all kinds of exotic eatible types.
Tomatoes, particularly heirloom tomatoes.
You can sell the seedlings at the same time you are growing your own.
Then you grow tomatoes that you can sell and eat.
Find restaurants in your area that want heirloom tomatoes, and sell to them, as well as farmstand sales at your place or farmers' market.
Restaurants reportedly like these varieties:
Red Pear
Yellow Pear
Sun Cherry or Sun Gold
Brandywine
Yellow Brandywine
Green Zebra
A mesculin Mix Lettuce is a good one, you can harvest in 28 days.....retail price for organic is $6/LB here in Buffalo NY.....+ it is LOADED with nutrients from the mix if you are a salad eater.........much better than other salad mixes.......and easy to grow.....I started growing it when the price here went to $6/lb you can have a nice windowsill planter for it and not have to buy it.....just pick some when you want to make a salad.....but $6/LB retail is still also a good price for selling what you grow as that is better than many things you can grow easily........ Tomatoes $2/lb for example......
I agree that mesclun mix is a good idea.
Heirloom tomatoes were $4.50/lb in my area last year.
Garlic is a natural antibiotic. Great thing to have on hand. You should check out wildcrafting. Fascinating what you can find just growing naturally in your area that you can use.
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Your name is still Meatwasp.
Sorry this Meat wasp does not make nests from Mushrooms . You are a funny chappy
WOW....that is ALOT compared to here.........
sprouts and wheatgrass. they can be grown in your house, or in a greenhouse, or outdoors. lots of people drink wheatgrass juice, and many eat sprouts.
lots of protien and vitamins, and it's a living food.
there is at least one co that grows it in fields and simply sells frozen juice. they say the danger of mold is reduced when wheatgrass is grown outdoors. careful of mold, genetic modification, and water quality.
baby vegetables are always in demand at better restaurants. The more you pick, the faster they produce.....
For general purposes - selling to neighbors or just people in general, the heirloom tomatos are a good idea. So is anything that takes a lot of room--most people that have a home garden won't be growing pumpkins and other large vining squashes or melons, watermelons, cantelopes--you get the idea.
For food, amaranth is a good choice--very nutritious, some varieties you can eat the young leaves like spiinach or swiss chard and then the seeds can be ground for bread or toasted for cereal. I'm not sure if they are a good sprouting seed, but it would be worth trying.
Root/bulb veggies of all sorts--potatoes, onions, garlic, peanuts, beets etc -they are very nutritious/good for you and can sustain you in times of need. They are easier to store without further processing, some do better as is in the ground till needed, some a cool dark place, others dried and stored out of the sun is good enough.
Peppers, lot's of nutrition and easy to grow. They can be dried, rehydrated and added to meals and you won't know they were ever dried or lose much of the nutrition. (the same goes for tomatoes)
I just got into farming a couple years ago and am still learning. On my land I have had good success with beans, squash and zucchini. I put Pumpkins in last year and they did well.
I will be expanding my gardens this year, and planting more Pumpkins.
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What a day! I just learned I'm the healthiest man in the world. Enough nutrients in my body to carry the world through this food crisis. Problem solved guys, no joke!
Umm, smoking it provides no nutritional value whatsoever. Truth be told, the same plant when good for smoking (sinsemilla) is not so good for eating, but when good for eating (completely seeded as much as possible) is not so good for smoking. Not only that, but when cannabis is fully seeded to make it good for nutritional value, then it loses most of it's psychoactive properties.
However, unlike what some have stated, in the PAW, assuming a total breakdown of law and order, then cannabis and hemp WOULD in fact be a good crop (in addition to your more traditional plants and fruit) because of the variety of products, fibers, oils, vegetable matter etc. Also, cannabis will barter pretty easily in the PAW.
Nevertheless, that said, sitting around and getting stoned all day in the PAW would be a bad bad idea. Your consumption would go up while your production would go down. If/when everything goes to hell in a handbasket, that would not be a good idea, as you can well imagine.
But if you have enough space for a big garden (say 20 to 40 rows) it may well be a good idea to dedicate 2 rows to hemp, 1 row to cannabis, and 1 row to silvia d as these will give you some barter capitol with certain folks who may not care about tomatoes, but might have goods you need.
http://glenbradley.net/share/aleksan...nitsyn_4-t.gif “And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if every Security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive and had to say good-bye to his family? Or if, during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat there in their lairs, paling with terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand?... The Organs would very quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and, notwithstanding all of Stalin's thirst, the cursed machine would have ground to a halt! If...if...We didn't love freedom enough. And even more – we had no awareness of the real situation.... We purely and simply deserved everything that happened afterward.” ― Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn
im trying to grow some of my own food now also. Got mesculine lettuce growing in pots outside. Also bush cucumbers, a couple blueberry plants, couple strawberrys, brocolli, of course tomatoes in the garden. Also got some raspberry & blackberry plants starting. One banana tree in pot sitting outside. Wish me luck I hope I get fruit & veggies.
Wish I could grow my own cannabis; but the state frowns on that plant. Good herb down here for smoking is $60 an 1/8th oz. 120 1/4, or 480 an oz.
also trying a stevia plant (boy these are HARD to grow)
Hey Gunny,
Do you know if the leftover stalk of the Cannabis plant is just as good for fibers and cellulose extract as the hemp plant?
Thanks
Wouldn't have a clue. I would imagine it's close though. But just remember, those fibers have to be separated and spun while the plant is still tender, not after curing. But again, the only real reason to plant cannabis will be for a barter commodity with a certain class of people in the PAW. If it's just a regular depression, then Hemp will be a better choice for 1000 reasons. If it is Mad Max Beyond the Thunderdome, then having the ability to barter with criminal elements might get you gas, weapons, and ammunition when there are none to be had otherwise.
That's just a hedge, really. Not an endorsement.
http://glenbradley.net/share/aleksan...nitsyn_4-t.gif “And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if every Security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive and had to say good-bye to his family? Or if, during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat there in their lairs, paling with terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand?... The Organs would very quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and, notwithstanding all of Stalin's thirst, the cursed machine would have ground to a halt! If...if...We didn't love freedom enough. And even more – we had no awareness of the real situation.... We purely and simply deserved everything that happened afterward.” ― Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn
Cannabis simply gives you credibility in the PAW in my opinion. I live in the city and I will most likely be bugging in.
The only people I know prepared for WTSHTF are drug dealers and other "gangsters" of assorted skill sets, simply because they are highly self sufficient in their economic activities and have never depended on formal education or their competitors(the fed) for handouts.
A fat jar of top quality Dutch Passion Blueberry does a great job of saying "I'm not a nark"
Knowing someone in the black market is extremely valuable cause they can get you things when noone else can. So having something to motivate them is indispensable in my opinion.
PLUS! LEO in my town would sell their soul for a pork chop but you need black market mediators to broker the deals. Anyone remember the David Brame scandal?
Last edited by tekrunner; 04-25-2008 at 10:21 AM.
Aloe vera looks like a good choice. Here's an extract from one of Mike Adams's booklets.
I’m truly excited to be bringing you this information today about the miraculous healing abilities of aloe
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mentioned here. I am, however, an enthusiastic supporter of natural medicine, and I personally grow
and eat aloe vera plants in Tucson, Arizona.
In fact, my yard is an aloe farm, and each day before I make my superfood breakfast smoothie, I walk
out to my yard, slice off an aloe vera leaf, thank the plant for granting me its healing medicine, then I
fillet the leaf and drop the aloe vera gel into my blender. A few minutes later, I’m enjoying the most
impressive medicinal herb that nature has ever created.
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only know about the topical applications of aloe vera gel. They think it’s only good for sunburns. I
Might try planting some staples, it you have the space. It's easy to sprout dried beans and plant them. I've done this with pintos so far, but I may spread to many different types of beans as I start to cultivate more of my land (I'm on two acres). Should TSHTF, I should be able to produce enough food to cover about 1/3-1/2 of my families nutritional requirements. Luckily, I'm surrounded by renters, so I will probably be able to annex their land when they leave in search of greener pastures, making me self sufficient, and even able to sell some of the surplus.
Heirloom tomatoes are a good idea. Any time you can sell something that the local grocery store doesn't carry, you can unload them a lot easier for a higher price.
Heirloom hot peppers would also be good. You can dry them, can them, make hot sauce, and they're used in a lot of herbal remedies. You could grow some garlic, herbs, and onions along with your peppers and tomatoes and can some salsa.
Look into organic growing practices, and there are always plants you want to grow along side each other, because each will keep certain bugs away. Organically grown veggies usually sell better at my local farmer's market (they just put out signs that say "grown without chemicals" because it takes like $100k to get organic certified).
You can get some good seeds for tomatoes and peppers here: http://www.pepperjoe.com/
They have a huge variety of rare peppers, and some good heirloom tomatoes.
In a SHTF situation, marijuana has potential to be a currency in some areas. You can always keep some good seeds around, just in case. I'm pretty sure it's still legal to have seeds.
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How do you eat it? Raw cooked or sqeezed into juice?
The Cannabis used for hemp growing is Cannabis Sativa, which is tall and has thin leaves. They breed it to have a thick stem to have more fiber, and breed it to be 0.00% THC. They grow tall and take 12 weeks to fully mature. Also they collect seeds from this type. Known as "Industrial Hemp".
Cannabis Sativa was the type that was popular in 60's it came from tropical regions, colombian gold, thai stick, haze. It is tall and has thin leaves but has been breeded to contain high amounts of THC. Cannabis Sativa lacks CBD in high amounts. Making the high more pyschedlic, stimulating, and energetic. Not the typical "stoner" stereotype. Takes as long as 12 weeks to fully mature. Smaller fluffier buds, lower yield.
Cannabis Indica is from India, Pakistan, Afganistan, etc.. They are short, bushy plants that have extremely broad/wide leaves and are a lot darker in color, and contain a higher amount of and CBD. Thats what makes it a "downer" type high, the typical "stoner" stereotype. These plants can mature in as little as 6 weeks, which is why its popular on the street, produce more, faster. Dense, almost rock hard buds, more yield than sativa.
Cannabis that is predominantly smoked now a days is a combination of Cannabis Sativa or Cannabis Indica, or pure indica. Purely sativa strains are rare due to mature time and lower yield. The fibers and seeds are otherwise the same. Seeds contain almost no cannabinoids.
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