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    Paul voted "yes" on the Secure Fence Act of 2006, which authorizes the construction of an additional 700 miles of double-layered fencing between the U.S and Mexico.


    Dumbest law ever.

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    Congressman Paul advocates a strict non-interventionist foreign policy that avoids entangling alliances.


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    Paul opposes virtually all federal interference with the market process. He supports the abolition of the income tax, most Cabinet departments and the Federal Reserve.


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    In many public speeches Paul has called for the return to hard currency through re-introduction of the gold standard, the effect of which would result in the United States Government making large purchases of gold and issuing currency only to the extent of its ownership of gold. Ron Paul supports the gold standard to prevent inflation. [13][14]


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    During a speech in New Hampshire in February of 2007 Paul called for a repeal of the 17th amendment,[21] the same that allows for direct election of U.S. Senators. Instead Paul would have members of state legislatures vote for U.S. Senators as they had done under Article One Section 3.


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    In 2002, he spoke before the Congress in opposition to campaign finance reforms that place any restrictions on citizens and businesses making campaign contributions to the candidate of their choice.


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    Since the Constitution does not enumerate or delegate to Congress the authority to ban or regulate drugs in general, he opposes federal participation in the drug war.


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    Paul believes that juries deserve the status of tribunals, and that jurers have the right to judge the law as well as the facts of the case.


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    He has been criticized at times for his voting record, being the only dissenting vote against giving Pope John Paul II, Rosa Parks and Mother Teresa the Congressional Gold Medal.


    Need some help explaining why RP is right



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    Paul voted "yes" on the Secure Fence Act of 2006, which authorizes the construction of an additional 700 miles of double-layered fencing between the U.S and Mexico.


    Dumbest law ever.
    In one of his first debates, Ron said the fence was the least pertinent reason he voted for it. It was the only tool available to him to force the government to take the problem seriously, and a shot across the Senate bow to tell them amnesty wasn't going to happen.

    http://www.ronpaullibrary.org/document.php?id=478


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    Congressman Paul advocates a strict non-interventionist foreign policy that avoids entangling alliances.
    Do we really need to explain this?


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    Paul opposes virtually all federal interference with the market process. He supports the abolition of the income tax, most Cabinet departments and the Federal Reserve.
    Again, do we need to explain this? The federal government has no authority to do ANY of this!


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    In many public speeches Paul has called for the return to hard currency through re-introduction of the gold standard, the effect of which would result in the United States Government making large purchases of gold and issuing currency only to the extent of its ownership of gold. Ron Paul supports the gold standard to prevent inflation. [13][14]
    He wants to legalize gold and silver as legal tender. That's different than pegging the current fiat system to gold a la the defunct Breton Woods agreement.


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    During a speech in New Hampshire in February of 2007 Paul called for a repeal of the 17th amendment,[21] the same that allows for direct election of U.S. Senators. Instead Paul would have members of state legislatures vote for U.S. Senators as they had done under Article One Section 3.
    The 17th amendment killed states rights. The federal government was supposed to be an administration for the common benefit of the states. Do you think the federal government would have been allowed to have a tax rate EXCEEDING state tax rates had the 17th not been passed?


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    In 2002, he spoke before the Congress in opposition to campaign finance reforms that place any restrictions on citizens and businesses making campaign contributions to the candidate of their choice.
    McCain-Feingold should have been called the Incumbent Entrenchment Act. It shouldn't be surprising why this passed. It's also unconstitutional.

    It's campaign finance laws which make an independent run impossible without first being a billionaire.


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    Since the Constitution does not enumerate or delegate to Congress the authority to ban or regulate drugs in general, he opposes federal participation in the drug war.
    And?

    The Drug War has done more to eviscerate our rights than the War on Terrorism!


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    Paul believes that juries deserve the status of tribunals, and that jurers have the right to judge the law as well as the facts of the case.
    It's called the Magna Carta. Look it up.


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    He has been criticized at times for his voting record, being the only dissenting vote against giving Pope John Paul II, Rosa Parks and Mother Teresa the Congressional Gold Medal.
    Not to mention Reagan!

    http://www.ronpaullibrary.org/document.php?id=870

    Ron has also spoken on this issue many times, like his interview with Wolf Blitzer.


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    Tell him to watch this video....then tell Ron Paul will save him a lot of money with the Iraq war...tell him that if he cares about his bank account its common sense to vote for the biggest tax cutter

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lh-T2iGkLJY
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    Yeah, you definately need to research "WHY" he votes on everything. When I first heard about him, I thought I disagreed with him on nearly everything. Then I saw him in a few debates and started to read some of his writings and realized that he isn't necessarily AGAINST everything he votes against the federal government doing, he just realizes that according to the constitution it isn't the federal government's job, and that in most cases it gives them too much power or rips the tax payers off, etc etc.

    Once you understand him, there is no disagreeing.

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    It's still a stupid law. That's like voting for a law to put ***s in a concentration camp to get out the message that you don't think *** marriage should be legalized. Maybe that's a bad analogy, but you know what I mean. It's extreme and doesn't accomplish the purpose he intended.

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    The US has a responsibility to intervene in some instances. Non-interventionist foreign policy is what allowed Hitler to rise to power and start WWII.

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    Of course it has the authority, and if it doesn't, then it should. Keynesian economics, google it.

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    I will admit that I have no idea what the Breton Woods agreement is. However, switching to a system of using precious metals as money, if that is really what he wants, it an even dumber idea than just using the gold standard.

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    I could care less about "state's rights." States aren't individuals. The last thing we need is politicians electing other politicians. The more opportunity we have to allow the direct will of the people to be represented (at all levels of government), the better.

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    Campaign finance laws fight corruption and make it harder (although, of course, still not impossible) for politicians to be "bought." And it is perfectly possible for independents to raise money if they aren't rich. It just can't come from rich individuals with an agenda or corporate lobbyists.

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    If you are referring to your right to sell, purchase, and/or consume addictive, dangerous, mind-altering substances, you will get no sympathy from me.

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    Yes, America should be governed by a document signed by the king of a different nation, nearly 800 years ago.



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    Tell him to enjoy his kool-aid, Ron Paul people are interested in TRUTH, not the canned lies of McCain and Fox. To wit - that the rise of Adolph Hitler was caused by a non-interventionist foreign policy is not merely a violation of Godwin;s Law, but an outright lie.

    The rise of Hitler was enabled by the INTERVENTIONIST policies of western nations against Germany following WW1. The people of Germany were desperate for someone who would stand up to the embargoes and restrictions that had been placed on their nation.

    But please, tell him not to allow the TRUTH to stand in the way of decent propaganda. Just keep drinking the Kool-Aid and when America collapses into chaos and ruin, he can look into the nearest mirror and quite readily point fingers at who is to blame.
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    Paul believes that juries deserve the status of tribunals, and that jurers have the right to judge the law as well as the facts of the case.

    This is already the case... its called jury nullification. Juries are not bound to return verdicts in accordance with the law. Essentially they have the power to decide whether they wish to ignore what they may deem an unjust law. If I remember right their are RP videos where he discusses this.

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