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Thread: Contact Al-Jazeera For a New Documentary About Us & RP

  1. #31
    I think this is a bad idea.

    However, they're already doing quite a bit of reporting on the US election and even have a poll up here
    http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exer...4C5259C4E7.htm
    which is really interesting if you believe the results. They show huge support for Romney in the middle east. Heh.
    NC doesn't need ThomTillis as the Republican nominee for US Senate.



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  3. #32
    Quote Originally Posted by slacker921 View Post
    I think this is a bad idea.

    However, they're already doing quite a bit of reporting on the US election and even have a poll up here
    http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exer...4C5259C4E7.htm
    which is really interesting if you believe the results. They show huge support for Romney in the middle east. Heh.
    Thanks for the link, I did not dig so much in Al-Jazeera website before, but this is very interesting.
    In the Middle East, Mitt is getting 75.6% while RP in second by 14% which is not bad. So let us analyze the results. There are two assumptions on why this is happening?
    First: the total of the results from around the world is about 9000 votes. The number of people who voted for Mitt might not be as huge as you might think. As example if only 100 people voted from the Middle East that means Mitt got 75 votes while RP got 15.
    The second assumption says that Israel is part of the Middle East and we all know that the people there are watching the American elections very carefully more than anybody else and therefore all votes for Mitt most likely is coming from there.
    I do not see any reason why the people in the Middle East would vote for Mitt unless if they are fascinated with the Olympics and I would not blame them
    Any way Mitt is out which leaves RP as a winner.

    But I really would like to know why you think this is a bad idea?



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  5. #33
    Quote Originally Posted by davidkachel View Post
    No! I did get the point.
    I think this thread is a test for a RP supporter.

    If you are against spreading the RP's message on Al Jazeera, please go back to your books and educate yourself more on Ron Paul's message.

    Forget for awhile that you have to convince american sheeps plugged on their TV set.

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  8. #36
    Maybe Osama can give him a shoutout in his next videotape.
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    The good Doctor's faith in the marketplace of ideas is being severely tested by this undertaking.

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  10. #38
    Quote Originally Posted by josh24601 View Post
    Maybe Osama can give him a shoutout in his next videotape.
    Ron Paul is a great thinker and he does not mind to sit down with anyone even if it was an enemy. Al-Jazeera is not an enemy as you try to reflect(Actually both Al-Jazeera Arabic & English are allowed to broadcast in the US even in the Bush era).
    So do you think that RP would refuse to be interviewed by Al-Jazeera? Or he will reject an offer of making a documentary about him and the revolution?

  11. #39
    Osama needs to come out and say, "If the American people elected Ron Paul, we would have no more need to feel threatened by tyranny in the Middle East and would therefore stop any effort for our quest of Freedom from oppression but the Bush regime."

    -kidding sorta

  12. #40
    Good Idea....probably one of the best sources of real news outside of the internets



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  14. #41
    here's why I'm against it.. Al Jazeera has known about Ron Paul for at least a year. They've known he's the only Republican candidate who opposes the Iraq war. They chose to ignore him just as most all other global media outlets. Why? Why did they miss an opportunity to poke fun at the American political system and point out how tragically flawed it is? Why did they miss an opportunity to expose the agenda of the American media in manipulating an election? Why did they neglect drawing attention to a candidate who wants to do exactly what they've been telling the US to do for years (end military and political actions in the Middle East)?

    I don't think a few (or even a few hundred) e-mails from Paul supporters will get them to reverse their decision.
    Are you asking the same thing of the BBC, AFP, etc? Or are you just targeting the one media outlet that many Americans view as the enemy?
    NC doesn't need ThomTillis as the Republican nominee for US Senate.

  15. #42
    Quote Originally Posted by slacker921 View Post
    here's why I'm against it.. Al Jazeera has known about Ron Paul for at least a year. They've known he's the only Republican candidate who opposes the Iraq war. They chose to ignore him just as most all other global media outlets. Why? Why did they miss an opportunity to poke fun at the American political system and point out how tragically flawed it is? Why did they miss an opportunity to expose the agenda of the American media in manipulating an election? Why did they neglect drawing attention to a candidate who wants to do exactly what they've been telling the US to do for years (end military and political actions in the Middle East)?
    Slacker921, I do understand your frustration and like you, I also wondered why Ron Paul is not given the attention that he should be given. I have to admit it is a mystery to me. I am not a lawyer for Al-Jazeera nor I want to play this role. And I believe that every media outlet has its own agenda. Therefore I cannot deny on you your frustration. But at the same time I have some points I would like to clarify

    Quote Originally Posted by slacker921 View Post
    I don't think a few (or even a few hundred) e-mails from Paul supporters will get them to reverse their decision.
    First: Why not? Together we have reversed many decisions before, RP was invited into many debates because of our efforts and pressures. So we truly succeed for some degree. So why we would not reverse it again this time?
    Second:The idea of this topic is about a documentary film. And this idea is impossible to be achieved through the MSM, even with thousands of emails, simply because it is against their agenda. While I assume like you do that Al-Jaz has a parallel agenda to ours. And at the same time Al-Jaz EN is new and it is looking for a way to gain popularity inside the US. And we the people have this power which we can use wisely for our interest.
    Third:We have also to put in mind that Al-Jaz might actually not know much about Ron Paul like we the people who are involved in the process do. Sometimes ideas sparks in mind and then people would say "oohh how did not we notice this before". This assumption might not be true but it is still a possibility. So why we would not give the possibility a chance to prove it is true? At least let us assume it is a test, to see if this channel truly respond to the people or otherwise ignore them.

    Quote Originally Posted by slacker921 View Post
    Are you asking the same thing of the BBC, AFP, etc? Or are you just targeting the one media outlet that many Americans view as the enemy?
    Actually when I brought Al-Jaz here to the table, I brought it naturally, I did not think for a moment in the term "enemy". I assumed that the people who support Ron Paul are people who show no fear, people who are open minded, people who are ready to build bridges no matter what the other "many" thinks, people who believe in freedom and they are sick of the continues violation of it.
    If you truly believe in freedom and if you truly believe that Al-Jazeera is not an enemy while you still think it is a bad choice "just because many Americans think so", then allow me to say that this is a clear violation of your own freedom. You have allowed those people who have minimum knowledge to depress your freedom and restrict it.
    If you truly believe that Al-Jazeera is not an enemy, then it is your responsibility-as it is mine-to educate those people about what we believe is the truth, exactly as we try to educate them about foreign policy and the constitution. And ofcourse I am not so dump to agree with Al-Jaz on everything but also I am not so dump to think of it as an enemy.
    If you ever meet with somebody who thinks Al-Jaz is an enemy, let him/her know that if Al-Jaz is an enemy it would not be allowed to broadcast in The United States for years.
    If Ron Paul would think for a moment in "what many Americans might think", he would never be Ron Paul that we know. He himself did not think at the beginning that he will ever gain any popularity in this election, though he decided to run and fight even if he was destined to fight alone.
    This revolution is about principles more than it is about calculations. Calculation is a sort of violation of people's freedom.
    If you will count the list of groups which are viewed as enemies by many Americans, this list might not end. Muslims are viewed as enemies, Arabs are viewed enemies, Russians and Chinese are the same story. Then what? You will end up with isolationism which has nothing to do with RP message. And instead of you brining them to freedom, they will defeat you with their ill thoughts.
    I do not know how many people here know that there is a CNN in Arabic?
    http://arabic.cnn.com/

    Regarding BBC & AFP, why not? And I am with you. Let us start another topic and hammer them the same way we should do here.

  16. #43
    Quote Originally Posted by VoteForRonPaul View Post
    Ron Paul is a great thinker and he does not mind to sit down with anyone even if it was an enemy. Al-Jazeera is not an enemy as you try to reflect(Actually both Al-Jazeera Arabic & English are allowed to broadcast in the US even in the Bush era).
    So do you think that RP would refuse to be interviewed by Al-Jazeera? Or he will reject an offer of making a documentary about him and the revolution?
    Because that's what it looks like to the very people you are attempting to reach.

    I'm not discussing the legitimacy of Al Jazeera, I'm discussing how "Ron Paul" and "Al Jazeera" in the same sentence look to anybody who isn't already a supporter.
    ***********************
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    Ron Paul Republican

    The good Doctor's faith in the marketplace of ideas is being severely tested by this undertaking.

  17. #44
    Quote Originally Posted by josh24601 View Post
    Because that's what it looks like to the very people you are attempting to reach.

    I'm not discussing the legitimacy of Al Jazeera, I'm discussing how "Ron Paul" and "Al Jazeera" in the same sentence look to anybody who isn't already a supporter.
    Thanks Josh, please take a minute to read my last post above. I tried there to clarify my view. And what I do think the revolution is about.

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  19. #46
    Al-Jazeera is just as sensationalist and skewed as Fox News. Just because they cover the other side doesn't mean they are fair.

  20. #47
    Can you imagine how this would sound on the News though? However great of a documentary they could make, I don't think we want John Q. Public to hear Ron Paul and Al-jazeera - the station where all the Bin Laden videos come from - associated with each other. He's already having a tough enough time w/the media.

    Sorry, bad idea.

  21. #48
    Quote Originally Posted by H Roark
    Al-Jazeera is just as sensationalist and skewed as Fox News. Just because they cover the other side doesn't mean they are fair.
    Actually I cannot claim that Al-Jazeera is fair and square, but also there is nothing could be worse than FOX. Also what is the first side that FOX could be covering in your opinion?
    Quote Originally Posted by Cholo View Post
    Can you imagine how this would sound on the News though? However great of a documentary they could make, I don't think we want John Q. Public to hear Ron Paul and Al-jazeera - the station where all the Bin Laden videos come from - associated with each other. He's already having a tough enough time w/the media.
    Sorry, bad idea.
    You do not have to be sorry man, that is your opinion. But I wrote something earlier, regarding a similar opinion and I hope if you can read it:
    Actually when I brought Al-Jaz here to the table, I brought it naturally, I did not think for a moment in the term "enemy". I assumed that the people who support Ron Paul are people who show no fear, people who are open minded, people who are ready to build bridges no matter what the other "many" thinks, people who believe in freedom and they are sick of the continues violation of it.
    If you truly believe in freedom and if you truly believe that Al-Jazeera is not an enemy while you still think it is a bad choice "just because many Americans think so", then allow me to say that this is a clear violation of your own freedom. You have allowed those people who have minimum knowledge to depress your freedom and restrict it.
    If you truly believe that Al-Jazeera is not an enemy, then it is your responsibility-as it is mine-to educate those people about what we believe is the truth, exactly as we try to educate them about foreign policy and the constitution. And ofcourse I am not so dump to agree with Al-Jaz on everything but also I am not so dump to think of it as an enemy.
    If you ever meet with somebody who thinks Al-Jaz is an enemy, let him/her know that if Al-Jaz is an enemy it would not be allowed to broadcast in The United States for years.
    If Ron Paul would think for a moment in "what many Americans might think", he would never be Ron Paul that we know. He himself did not think at the beginning that he will ever gain any popularity in this election, though he decided to run and fight even if he was destined to fight alone.
    This revolution is about principles more than it is about calculations. Calculation is a sort of violation of people's freedom.
    If you will count the list of groups which are viewed as enemies by many Americans, this list might not end. Muslims are viewed as enemies, Arabs are viewed enemies, Russians and Chinese are the same story. Then what? You will end up with isolationism which has nothing to do with RP message. And instead of you bringing them to freedom, they will defeat you with their ill thoughts.

    Quote Originally Posted by ClayTrainor View Post
    E-mail sent!
    I appreciate the effort!

    +1000



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  23. #49
    Al-Jaz is extremely partial to Muslim sympathies first as is Fox is the same with neo-cons. Just pay attention to how they cover anything that has to do with Lebanon..

  24. #50
    Al Jazeera is no more biased than Faux news and the MSM.

  25. #51
    Quote Originally Posted by H Roark View Post
    Al-Jaz is extremely partial to Muslim sympathies first as is Fox is the same with neo-cons. Just pay attention to how they cover anything that has to do with Lebanon..
    I have to partially agree here. But it is totally untrue to say that Al-Jazeera is extremely partial to all Muslims in Lebanon! Lebanon is divided into Sunnies, Shiites, Christians & Druze and other groups. So what is happening here is that Al-Jazeera favors the Shiites(Hizboallah) in the south & the Syrian side, for some reason. And this is the most part I hate about Al-Jazeera. But on the other hand it does not favor Iran which is considered as an Ally by both Hizboallah and Syria.
    Many American officials both governmental and military have been interviewed by Al-Jazeera.
    What I am saying here is that it is against Ron Paul's principles, the use of double standards. If Ron Paul would accept to be interviewed by a neo-con channel, there is no reason for him to refuse to be interviewed by Al-Jazeera.

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  27. #53
    Quote Originally Posted by Ex Post Facto
    Osama needs to come out and say, "If the American people elected Ron Paul, we would have no more need to feel threatened by tyranny in the Middle East and would therefore stop any effort for our quest of Freedom from oppression but the Bush regime."
    Yea well the powers that be right now could and most likely would twist that one...

  28. #54
    Aljaeera is a joke I can't believe you even mentioned their name. The website is not the same as the news channel FYI.

    Propagandist liars by every sense of the word.

  29. #55
    Hey guys, I think I am going to give up on this topic, I am not going to bump it again.
    But I just want to thank those of you who were very excited and supportive. Thank you for not allowing the neocons to define what you should or should not be doing, you are a true example of free people!

    At the same time I want to apologize because this topic was not intended to be about "Al-Jazeera" while I do not have any desire to play the role of a lawyer for any party. Instead I was hoping we will discuss how important it is to honor this movement into a documentary film. And If there is another alternative to appear in the future, I will be very happy to share.

    And for those who opposed the idea, I would like to say: Do not let the neocons define what you should or you should not be doing. Do not let them defeat you, because that was a clear violation of your freedom. If Ron Paul was to listen to what many Americans or the MSM think, he would not be Ron Paul that we all know.


    Freedom is bliss!

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