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    Disastrous Results of Gun Control

    GUN CONTROLS AND RESULTS:

    In 1929, the Soviet Union established gun control. From 1929 to 1953, about 20 million dissidents, unable to defend themselves, were Rounded up and exterminated.
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    In 1911, Turkey established gun control. From 1915 to 1917, 1.5
    Million Armenians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and Exterminated.
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    Germany established gun control in 1938 and from 1939 to 1945, a
    Total of 13 million Jews and others who were unable to defend themselves Were rounded up and exterminated.
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    China established gun control in 1935. From 1948 to 1952, 20 million Political dissidents, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and Exterminated
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    Guatemala established gun control in 1964. From 1964 to 1981,
    100,000 Mayan Indians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and Exterminated.
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    Uganda established gun control in 1970. From 1971 to 1979, 300,000 Christians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and Exterminated.
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    Cambodia established gun control in 1956. From 1975 to 1977, one
    Million educated' people, unable to defend themselves, were rounded Up and exterminated.
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    Defenceless people rounded up and exterminated in the 20th Century Because of gun control: 56 million.
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    It has now been 12 months since gun owners in Australia were forced By new law to surrender 640,381 personal firearms to be destroyed by Their own government, a program costing Australia taxpayers more Than $500 million dollars. The first year results are now in:
    List of 7 items:
    Australia-wide, homicides are up 3.2 percent Australia-wide,
    Assaults are up 8.6 percent Australia-wide, armed robberies are up 44 percent (yes, 44 percent)! In the state of Victoria alone, homicides with firearms are now up 300 percent.

    Note that while the law-abiding citizens turned them in, the
    Criminals did not, and criminals still possess their guns!
    While figures over the previous 25 years showed a steady decrease in Armed robbery with firearms, this has changed drastically upward in The past 12 months, since criminals now are guaranteed that their prey Is unarmed.
    There has also been a dramatic increase in break-ins and assaults of The ELDERLY. Australian politicians are at a loss to explain how Public safety has decreased, after such monumental effort and expense Was expended in successfully ridding Australian society of guns The Australian experience and the other historical facts above prove it.

    You won't see this data on the US evening news, or hear politicians Disseminating this information.
    Guns in the hands of honest citizens save lives and property and, yes, Gun-control laws adversely affect only the law-abiding citizens.
    Take note my fellow Americans, before it's too late!

    The next time someone talks in favor of gun control, please remind them of this history lesson.
    With guns, we are 'citizens'.
    Without them, we are 'subjects'.
    During WWII the Japanese decided not to invade America because they Knew most Americans were ARMED!

    "Whatever you can vividly imagine, ardently desire, sincerely believe, and enthusiastically act upon, must inevitably come to pass." Paul J. Meyer, self-made billionaire philanthropist



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    Quote Originally Posted by Laja View Post
    During WWII the Japanese decided not to invade America because they Knew most Americans were ARMED!
    "You cannot invade the mainland United States.
    There would be a rifle behind every blade of grass."

    - Admiral Isoroku Yamamoto
    (Japanese Navy)

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    Quote Originally Posted by SWATH View Post
    "You cannot invade the mainland United States.
    There would be a rifle behind every blade of grass."

    - Admiral Isoroku Yamamoto
    (Japanese Navy)
    I wonder if he said this before or after FDR moved the pacific fleet to Pearl Harbor.

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    Can you link this? I'd like to read more...

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    I can't link it because it's from www.waynemadsenreport.com, which requires a paid subscription. It's a great website as Madsen has some amazing sources of information AND the people who makes the regular comments seem to be really knowledgeable. Sorry about no link. Do you think it's bad netiquette to share this stuff without a link?
    "Whatever you can vividly imagine, ardently desire, sincerely believe, and enthusiastically act upon, must inevitably come to pass." Paul J. Meyer, self-made billionaire philanthropist

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    excellent info
    Quote Originally Posted by JoshLowry View Post
    Yongrel can post whatever he wants as long as it isn't porn.

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    No, I appreciate the info! I wanted the link so I could pass it on to someone who I know would demand a link. I can still pass it on now telling them just what you told me.

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    Here's a link of interest : Can Gun Control Reduce Crime? Part 2
    Strength through Knowledge

    "What's one more body in the foundations of your Utopia?"
    - This has been a message by Agent CSL.



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    Have you guys heard anything about McCain being a "gun-grabbing liberal"?
    "Whatever you can vividly imagine, ardently desire, sincerely believe, and enthusiastically act upon, must inevitably come to pass." Paul J. Meyer, self-made billionaire philanthropist

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    Quote Originally Posted by Laja View Post
    Have you guys heard anything about McCain being a "gun-grabbing liberal"?

    Didn't he vote in favor of the bill passed in December to disarm vets who may have suffered from PTSD in the past 20 yrs?

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    Quote Originally Posted by pinkmandy View Post
    Didn't he vote in favor of the bill passed in December to disarm vets who may have suffered from PTSD in the past 20 yrs?
    How ironic would it be for him to have voted for The Verterns disarmament Act, when he suffered from (and still may) PTSD.

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    Hmm. I wonder if my congressman voted for that act as well

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    I don't know what else would account for McCain's raging anger other than PTSD.
    "Whatever you can vividly imagine, ardently desire, sincerely believe, and enthusiastically act upon, must inevitably come to pass." Paul J. Meyer, self-made billionaire philanthropist

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    Quote Originally Posted by Laja View Post
    I don't know what else would account for McCain's raging anger other than PTSD.
    Pop a paper bag behind his head at a rally and see how he reacts.

    Right to bear arms should not be removed without specific due process, not for any determination of mental disorder, as long as they are of "sound" mind, meaning understanding saftey rules.

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    The only bill that needs to be passes is a bill that disarms McCain. Oh wait the Vietnamese already took care of that.
    "Countries are benefited when they changed these [national sovereignty] policies, and evidence suggests that North Americans are ready for a new relationship that renders this old definition of sovereignty obsolete."

    CFR task force co-chairman Robert Pastor



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    Quote Originally Posted by Laja View Post
    Have you guys heard anything about McCain being a "gun-grabbing liberal"?
    Quote Originally Posted by mczerone View Post
    Pop a paper bag behind his head at a rally and see how he reacts.

    Right to bear arms should not be removed without specific due process, not for any determination of mental disorder, as long as they are of "sound" mind, meaning understanding saftey rules.
    See how I would react if someone popped a bag behind me. EEEEK

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    Here's a snippet from an article by Pastor Chuck Baldwin dated February 22, 2008:

    Nowhere is McCain's chicanery and duplicity more jeopardous than in the area of the right to keep and bear arms. On issues relating to the Second Amendment, John McCain is a disaster! For example, the highly respected Gun Owners of America (GOA) rates McCain with a grade of F-. McCain's failing grade is well deserved.

    John McCain sponsored an amendment to S. 1805 on March 2, 2004 that would outlaw the private sale of firearms at gun shows. According to GOA, the provision would effectively eliminate gun shows, because every member of an organization sponsoring a gun show could be imprisoned if the organization fails to notify each and every "person who attends the special firearms event of the requirements [under the Brady Law]."

    John McCain also sponsored an Incumbent Protection provision to the so-called "Campaign Finance Reform" bill, which severely curtails the ability of outside groups (such as GOA) to communicate the actions of incumbent politicians to members and supporters prior to an election.

    The GOA report of the 106th Congress reveals that out of 15 votes relating to the right to keep and bear arms, Senator John McCain voted favorably only 4 times. Put that into a percentage and McCain's pro-Second Amendment voting record is a pathetic 27%.

    In addition, GOA warns that John McCain supported legislation that would force federal agents to increase efforts in arresting and convicting honest gun owners who may inadvertently violate one of the many federal anti-gun laws, which punish mere technicalities, such as gun possession.

    For example, if John McCain's proposed legislation were to become law, a gun owner who travels with a gun through a school zone or who uses one of the family handguns to go target shooting with a 15-year old could be sent to prison. And a person who uses a gun for self-defense could be sent to prison for a mandatory minimum of five years.

    But there is so much more to the McCain madness.

    http://www.newswithviews.com/baldwin/baldwin430.htm
    "Whatever you can vividly imagine, ardently desire, sincerely believe, and enthusiastically act upon, must inevitably come to pass." Paul J. Meyer, self-made billionaire philanthropist

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    bump
    "Whatever you can vividly imagine, ardently desire, sincerely believe, and enthusiastically act upon, must inevitably come to pass." Paul J. Meyer, self-made billionaire philanthropist

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    This is the JPFO genocide chart, it's pretty compelling. The problem when you're talking about millions upon millions of dead is that most people can't even begin to visualize the extent of the carnage. Stalin had it right when he said "The death of one man is a tragedy, the death of millions is a statistic." That's why the gun control do-gooders totally miss the big picture.

    "I am attacking an idea which I believe to be false; a system which appears to me to be unjust; an injustice so independent of personal intentions that each of us profits from it without wishing to do so, and suffers from it without knowing the cause of our suffering." - Frédéric Bastiat

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    scary!
    "Whatever you can vividly imagine, ardently desire, sincerely believe, and enthusiastically act upon, must inevitably come to pass." Paul J. Meyer, self-made billionaire philanthropist

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    Yes the bill is called the "Veterans Disarmament Act", not officially though.

    The tyrants in control of the corporation that pretends to be our government are very interested in disarming veterans. Right now a lot of soldiers are doing their thing for their bosses and seeing the reality of it, and discovering that war is indeed a racket and so is the regime that starts it. They are the last people the PTB wants to be in control of rifles. So they make it easy to declare them nuts and stick them with instant prison when they go home and fail to turn in their guns.

    The next George Washington is likely serving in Iraq or Afganistan and his (or perhaps her) skills will be important in the next 1776. So goes it for many other soldiers. The PTB wants to use LAWFARE to make sure these people are rotting in jail when the time comes or at the least are very rusty with their shooting skills (good luck on that one - I knew a lot of old veterans who have fired enough rounds to get back on track with just one box of ammo even after decades). It should also be noted that most soldiers serving in Iraq will be suffering from Depleted Uranium and if they demand en masse to be taken care of it could be a replay of the Bonus Army and the government wants to make sure they are not armed.

    The Veterans Disarmament Act was passed with a voice vote late at night. You will not be able to know exactly who voted for it. This was something the NRA actually supported and worked with Chuck Schumer and McCarthy.

    The collusion between government doing this by voice vote (not something usually done), and the NRA pushing it withing the time frame in 2007 lends much to conspiracy theory.

    It was all too perfect.

    I recommend that we keep extra rifles for all those veterans who took an oath to uphold the Constitution, and may continue to honor that oath.
    If this should be, our final stand,
    we will stand together with pride
    We will honour the past, and fight to the last,
    it will be a good way to die
    It matters not, if the cause is lost,
    and we can not stop the tide
    We will fight to the end, and then fight again,
    it will be a good way to die

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    Thank you, Founders, for the 2nd Amendment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PRIEST View Post
    Thank you, Founders, for the 2nd Amendment.
    +1
    "Whatever you can vividly imagine, ardently desire, sincerely believe, and enthusiastically act upon, must inevitably come to pass." Paul J. Meyer, self-made billionaire philanthropist



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    Quote Originally Posted by Agent CSL View Post
    Here's a link of interest : Can Gun Control Reduce Crime? Part 2
    great quote from the article you linked i wanted to share....

    "...If cowardly and dishonorable men sometimes shoot unarmed men with army pistols or guns, the evil must be prevented by the penitentiary and gallows, and not by a general deprivation of constitutional privilege..."

    thanks for the link CSL :-)

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    If this should be, our final stand,
    we will stand together with pride
    We will honour the past, and fight to the last,
    it will be a good way to die
    It matters not, if the cause is lost,
    and we can not stop the tide
    We will fight to the end, and then fight again,
    it will be a good way to die

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    Dok- that pic of the moms holding babes, pregnant women then the ditch...that's easily one of the most disturbing pics I've ever seen. Ever.

    And it should be a national ad campaign, btw. Remind dumb people why they have the "right to bear arms". Sometimes people need to be shocked awake.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pinkmandy View Post
    Dok- that pic of the moms holding babes, pregnant women then the ditch...that's easily one of the most disturbing pics I've ever seen. Ever.

    And it should be a national ad campaign, btw. Remind dumb people why they have the "right to bear arms". Sometimes people need to be shocked awake.
    very disturbing but i'm glad to have seen it. It helped solidify why i believe what i believe and reminds me of what can happen.

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    omigod, i am speechless at the cruelty man inflicts on other human beings. and that cruelty extends to animals and the earth, as well. it's frightening!
    "Whatever you can vividly imagine, ardently desire, sincerely believe, and enthusiastically act upon, must inevitably come to pass." Paul J. Meyer, self-made billionaire philanthropist

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    The reason none of this registers with the anti-gun crowd has partly to do with this notion of American exceptionalism - that "it" couldn't happen - whatever "it" you want to talk about. When people face the reality that as persons we all have the same flaws and weaknesses as everyone else. The irony is that America is far less safe with fewer guns than it would be with more guns. The fewer guns there are, the more they are concentrated in the hands of the evil.

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