Post your Consitutional Amendment ideas here

[silverhandorder]

1. Constitution is not open to interpretation. Anything not given in constitution is a state right.

2. Government can not hold any secret from it's citizens. Military technology and plans may remain undisclosed. Anything that does not significantly expose the nation to imminent danger must be disclosed. Public can have access to any document in the federal government.

3. No notion of socialism is acceptable. Only voluntarily funded programs allowed.

[HollyforRP]

28. The use of electronics or any other form of advanced technology is hereby strictly forbidden in the process of any election.

29. All votes for the election of any federal position must be recounted.

30. Attaching items to bills in Congress is hereby forbidden. Each bill will address one piece of legislation and one piece only.

31. Any notion of pre-emptive war is strictly forbidden.

32. Expansion of the Judicial branch. When Americans lose faith in the Supreme Court, they may hold Judicial Conventions in which when 3/4 of these said legislatures agree, may remove Justices from the Supreme Court on the notion that they are not defending and protecting the Constitution of the United States.

33. All mentioned Conventions in this Constitution shall be defined by the following: That each convention consists of at least 50 individuals, that the Presiding officer of each convention be the Governor of the state, and that the state decides the selection criteria or process of choosing the 50 delegates.

34. Presidential candidates may no longer raise funds from the public or spend money on anything other than traveling.

35. With historical proof of inefficiency, any sort of National Bank is hereby forbidden.

36. 22nd Amendment repealed. An individual can serve two terms as President of the United States without question. To qualify for an additional term, the incumbent President must have an average approval rating of 85% in the final three years of his current term. If a President is this successful in his terms in office, in theory he will have no term limit. The approval rating will be determined by a Division I University with the Universities rotating with each administration. Only an incumbent President may qualify for a third or more term.

Especially agree with the bolded!

[Banana]

[QUOTE=HollyforRP;1261648]I like all of the ideas!

Especially with the voting system.

1. Voting:

-There should be harsh penalties for any form of interference for those who want to vote including Candidates conspiring and spreading mis-information by phone, email, snail mail, media outlets. [quote]

+1

*Media should not feel threatened by higher powers. This takes away from freedom of the press. Media will be required to give equal coverage during the debate. If someone is blackmailing or bribing media and there are candidates blacked out, it will be investigated for conspiring to tamper with the election.

+1 for blackmailing/bribing/tampering. Not sure if we really should legislate media, though...

*No more electronic voting machines.

*Showing an ID will be mandatory. You must be an American citizen to vote.

*Non violent voter watch groups will be encouraged to ensure poll workers are not giving misinformation. Voter watch groups will be allowed to video tape without security guards threatening them. Non-biased watchers will be appointed to make sure there is no voter tamperment.

*Any officials caught pushing buttons to sway the election will be held responsible and punished.

*There will be no voter disenfranchisement allowed period.

+1

2. Freedom from the press

*In times where public figures and private citizens are hounded by the press unwanted, it will be viewed of as stalking.

The press has not only helped give publicity but also helped destroy lives and create an illusion that public figures deserve to be stalked because of how much money they make and because the press made them a star.

That's too much legislating, IMO. I would rather push for a stronger libel law (see British's stance on libel and media. I think they struck a perfect balance over there)

*Any media outlet that has captured photos of a celebrity on the spot without a formal agreement to an interview will have to pay royalty fees to the celebrity for profiting off of someone's image.

Who will qualify as celebrity. I really don't want to force media to pay royalty to the likes of K-Fed and Brit. Do you?

*Private citizens and celebrities are protected by harrassment of the press that overstep the boundaries of privacy laws.

*This does not apply to court cases and actual upcoming news, mutal agreement to interviews.

*Media will not be allowed to incriminate citizens turning the individual into guilty before proven innocent case. Grilling of a citizen over an upcoming court case or playing the role of a prosecutor for all to see is a case of character assasination.

(This idea came to me after Melinda Duckett who ended her life one day after Nancy Grace grilled her over her missing son painting Melinda Duckett as a murderer. Nancy Grace also showed a preference for Melinda's ex-husband Josh Duckett who had some crooked cops in his family.)

See above RE: libel.

This is a disgrace to journalism.

I so totally agree that media is in a bad shape. However, I'm not 100% sure whether this is proper consitutional amendment or best left up to state to legislate. I think I would lean toward latter so we can experiment what legislation will work best in regulating media.

3. Anti-police brutality act

I believe this is best legislated by states, IMO.

No One wants an amendment for balanced budgets?

Damn.

28. The use of electronics or any other form of advanced technology is hereby strictly forbidden in the process of any election.

29. All votes for the election of any federal position must be recounted.

+1

30. Attaching items to bills in Congress is hereby forbidden. Each bill will address one piece of legislation and one piece only.

+10

31. Any notion of pre-emptive war is strictly forbidden.

That's a policy, and will cause more problem if made a law, IMO.

32. Expansion of the Judicial branch. When Americans lose faith in the Supreme Court, they may hold Judicial Conventions in which when 3/4 of these said legislatures agree, may remove Justices from the Supreme Court on the notion that they are not defending and protecting the Constitution of the United States.

Congress already hold the powers to impeach justices, IIRC.

33. All mentioned Conventions in this Constitution shall be defined by the following: That each convention consists of at least 50 individuals, that the Presiding officer of each convention be the Governor of the state, and that the state decides the selection criteria or process of choosing the 50 delegates.

34. Presidential candidates may no longer raise funds from the public or spend money on anything other than traveling.

?

35. With historical proof of inefficiency, any sort of National Bank is hereby forbidden.

+1

36. 22nd Amendment repealed. An individual can serve two terms as President of the United States without question. To qualify for an additional term, the incumbent President must have an average approval rating of 85% in the final three years of his current term. If a President is this successful in his terms in office, in theory he will have no term limit. The approval rating will be determined by a Division I University with the Universities rotating with each administration. Only an incumbent President may qualify for a third or more term.

I disagree.

As I explained in other place, POTUS and all Congress positions are *NOT* leaders, head-of-state, lawmakers, king, whatever. They are properly public servants, bound to the will of people. By imposing term limits, we ensure that we don't get stuck up in cult of personality where we just need one rotten but charismatic individual to pervert our institutions.

[Danny]

How about the Liberty Amendment, which was introduced in the House by Ron Paul back in '03 and has already been endorsed by several states:

http://libertyamendment.org/

This is right up our alley:

The purpose of this Amendment is to give full force and effect to the Constitution of the United States; to restore freedom and lost liberties to all Americans; and to restore sovereignty to the United States of America, the States and the body of the People.

The Liberty Amendment will renew personal freedom – the ability of individuals to exercise their God-given rights with a minimum of dependence on, and interference from, the Federal Government. It will restore to ourselves and to future generations the advantages which we inherited from our forefathers – advantages which made us the most fortunate people on earth.

Economic freedom, without which no freedom is possible, will be renewed by terminating federal competition with free enterprise and interference in "our" economy. When this has been accomplished, federal personal income, estate, and gift taxes will be unnecessary. So this Amendment will further renew economic freedom by terminating these taxes.

The Liberty Amendment is designed to regain the Constitutionally guaranteed powers reserved to the States and to the people. We are requesting that all States consider the urgent need to save the sovereignty of the States, the United States in its true Constitutionally framed Republic, and the Individual Liberty of all of our People.

[american.swan]

My suggestion would be...
All citizens are solely citizens of states and as such the federal government has no right to govern, tax, or arrest state citizens. (maybe needs some modification)

[Fields]

1. All voting must have verifible paper trail.
2. Remove anchor-baby clause from 14th amendment.
3. Repeal the 17th amendment so that Senators are appointed by State legislatures.

+1

[sratiug]

Make lying illegal for anyone in government, especially police and prosecutors.

Make it illegal for a judge to instruct jurors on the law.

Repeal 16th and 17th amendments,

Re-repeal the 18th along with the original repealing amendment that allows regulation of alcohol by adding language forbidding the regulation of any food, drink, plant, inhalant, drug, or medical advice or treatments.

[voytechs]

We should amend the constitution to provide mandatory life sentences to any politician breaking the constitution. It should be treated as highest treason against the people of this country. We'd be 68 senators less including McCain after yesterday's vote for torture.

[american.swan]

Really most of these ideas can be chalked up to the founding father's not understanding the laziness of the people and how they aren't interested in this sort of thing and people lie.

The system the founding father's set up doesn't work when the citizens are lazy and a group of rich bastards have plans to take over the government.

The south should have won the war. The USA today is too big for it's own good.

[-lotus-]

Government shall not classify citizens, either by race, creed, class, denomination, physical attribute, or by any other qualification or singularity. All legal citizens of these United States are now and forevermore free individuals, sovereign entities protected from harm foreign and domestic by their appointed government but especially from their appointed government.

[Mauiboy86]

1) presidential, congress and senate term limits of 4 years maximum
2) outlaw assfaces like murdock from owning more then one media company
3) repeal the 16th ammendment and the federal reserve
4) zero tolerance for illegal aliens, will be deported immediately
5) make gun ownership manditory for all homeowners
6) no one family can hold the same office position twice
7) make it illegal for members of congress, senate or executive offices to allow no bid contracts on companies they have equity in. Hell make all no bid contracts punishable by death.
8) delete the department homeland security
9) Repeal the patriot acts and burn every copy
10) get the federal government out of public schools
11) repeal presidential directives..all of them!
12) ban unconstitutional roadblocks by city and state police for seatbelt or whatever checks
13) take guns and tazers out of city police officers hands
14) dismantle or thin out the cia, ins, nasa, fbi, atf, dea etc.
15) repeal Nafta, cafta and all free bull$#@! agreements
16) put to death every member of the CFR, SPP and the trilateral commission for treason.
17) no subsidies to foreign countries, and no goddam ethenol for gas bull$#@!
18) Make hemp a legal and manditory cash crop which we can use for clothing, fuel, and just about everything else.
19) make all fiat currency illegal
20) get our military out of countries asap after any conflict for any reason.
21) not send out military into other countries unless they shoot first and we have proof
22) get out of the damn middle east forever!
23) Make me president so I can make sure all this gets taken care of in my first week of office.

[zakkubin]

I'm Sorry you guys feel this way, but it would be the easiest way to eliminate the electoral college, delegate counts. Have people who are educated, and yes College educated take there tests, and know alot about the world, I guess you could as well take a constitutional test to be eligable to vote as well., not people who just go to a DMV and sign up to vote.

The electoral college has a purpose though. To make sure the areas of very high population do not have all the influence. However, I think we should do away with the delegates and SUPER DELEGATES.

Just give every state so many "points" and they automatically go to the candidates proportionally. Other rules would be needed for a brokered convention. Perhaps just make all the states "winner take all".

An amendment that is needed is addressing the issue of who votes first. Maybe a rotation of states? Or all on one day? But having Iowa & New Hampshire go first is not cool.


As far as the test I think it's funny but wouldn't support it. We should all have the right to vote. But I completley understand your problem. I share it. Why do our votes have the same value as someone who goes to the pole and ask their buddy who to vote for at the last minute? Crazy talk. It's one of the faults of a democracy along with mob rule. Majority of votes can impose on the minority.


Ok so how about a compromise?

We all know a college degree does not make one smart much less well informed. So why not a "test" about the candidates?


Step 1 - Offer some VERY basic reading about each candidates positions.
Step 2 - Random questions about random candidates.
Like True or False- John Mccain plans to immediately bring U.S. military troops home from Iraq.
True or False- Hillary Clinton advocates universal health care.


Unlike others I WANT electronic voting on touch screens. The test would be offered on these screens and would only be 5 or so questions. ( It's just meant to make you read the article because you do not know what questions will be asked)


Step 1- (The reading) should be sent out to EVERY registered voter before hand and offered at the poles by staff.


Step 2- Would only takes about 30 seconds. If you missed 2 out of 5 simple questions then it would ask you 5 more. After a few times a staffer would come over to "help you" by answering the right questions then you could vote. ( I"m sure some would say send them to end of line)


So the point is not to deny people the very real right to vote. However, it does attempt to make people informed about the BASIC issues.



This makes other complications. Like who makes the reading? Well maybe just a word limit is used then each candidates campaign will actually type the information. This would need to be submitted at the time the candidate makes his/her candidacy official. That way there is plenty of time for anyone to bring up grips about the submitted information. ( It shouldn't be so detailed to spur up controversy but may )


In closing. I'm not big on federal gov. being involved with a lot of things. But voting for president is one exception.

Just throw the smartest people in various fields in a room to develop the perfect voting system. Give them requirements and it will be built.

My requirements off the top of my head:

- Touch Screen
- Paper Trail
- Serial # of vote to Receipt
- Results offered in REAL TIME via internet, tv, in room
- Paper trail goes directly into sealed CLEAR box. ( if a recount is needed I want this thing to be opened with the jaws of life not a paper seal & in public )

Many more requirements but you get the idea. Then invite some old people and high school girls to test it out. Tweak then use in local elections or something.

When it's PERFECT I want every state to use this system. However, checks and balances should still be in place. States should be able to have control over certain things and challenge things. But the actual system needs to be uniform.

Ok thats my rant... Hope someone reads all of this.

[Eponym_mi]

In order to be eligible to vote you must have a college degree.

Yes, we only want smug $#@!s to make decisions for us.

[nbhadja]

Amendment- Politicians that do or vote for anything unconstitutional in office get the death penalty.

Imagine a world without Hillary, GWB, McCain, Obama, Romney, Huckabee, Edwards etc.

[nodope0695]

Seems to me that the constitution protects life, liberty and property...hence by its very nature, it would prohibit torture. The trouble is, our "leaders" have forgotten about the constitution, if they've read it at all.

[Eponym_mi]

1. No bill having signed into law shall remain in effect for a period greater than 12 years, unless the bill shall have passed by a majority of three-quarters in favor within both houses
2. The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, communications, travel, commerce, and business transactions, against unreasonable searches, monitoring, or seizures, shall not be abridged, and no warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.
3. The 16th amendment is repealed
4. The 17th amendment is repealed

[american.swan]

1) presidential, congress and senate term limits of 4 years maximum
2) outlaw assfaces like murdock from owning more then one media company
3) repeal the 16th ammendment and the federal reserve
4) zero tolerance for illegal aliens, will be deported immediately
5) make gun ownership manditory for all homeowners
6) no one family can hold the same office position twice
7) make it illegal for members of congress, senate or executive offices to allow no bid contracts on companies they have equity in. Hell make all no bid contracts punishable by death.
8) delete the department homeland security
9) Repeal the patriot acts and burn every copy
10) get the federal government out of public schools
11) repeal presidential directives..all of them!
12) ban unconstitutional roadblocks by city and state police for seatbelt or whatever checks
13) take guns and tazers out of city police officers hands
14) dismantle or thin out the cia, ins, nasa, fbi, atf, dea etc.
15) repeal Nafta, cafta and all free bull$#@! agreements
16) put to death every member of the CFR, SPP and the trilateral commission for treason.
17) no subsidies to foreign countries, and no goddam ethenol for gas bull$#@!
18) Make hemp a legal and manditory cash crop which we can use for clothing, fuel, and just about everything else.
19) make all fiat currency illegal
20) get our military out of countries asap after any conflict for any reason.
21) not send out military into other countries unless they shoot first and we have proof
22) get out of the damn middle east forever!
23) Make me president so I can make sure all this gets taken care of in my first week of office.

You forgot our friend FEMA!

[AJ Antimony]

Banana, I will respond to your assessment of my amendments.

I tried quoting your message but it didn't work so bear with me...

Regarding state conventions removing Justices, I think this should be thrown in there because we all know Congress, which votes unconstitutional, isn't going to impeach those who uphold unconstitutional.

Regarding #33, the Constitution never defines what a state convention really is for states to ratify amendments and the like. This is an attempt to define a convention and obviously isn't close to perfect.

Regarding #34, a Presidential candidate really shouldn't be draining $100 mil from the American people nor should they even be spending that money to campaign.

George Washington said it best--he never campaigned because he felt a true President shouldn't need to go around begging for votes

Regarding #36, repealing 22, the only reason I am for no Pres. term limits is WHAT IF three things were to happen--1. Great Depression, 2. Real war, 3. A truly amazing man is elected and is a terrific President. The most important of these, IMO is #2. Look at WWII. Would the Allies/US have won the war if 1/2 through it the Americans were forced to elect an entirely different administration with entirely different policies about the war? But even though I don't like 100% term limits, that's why I included the 85% thing. Basically, only the truly amazing Presidents would qualify for a third term.

[Joe Schwartz]

Repeal the Commerce Clause.

[JK/SEA]

An amendement to restore the Monarchy.

[Alawn]

Here is mine. I'll call it the "Money Amendment." It might be slightly redundant with the current Constitution but they are stupid so I have to make it really clear for them.

"Section 1: There shall be no central bank and Congress shall not delegate its power to coin money or regulate the value thereof

Section 2: There shall be no fractional reserve banking

Section 3: All money must be backed by gold or silver. Gold and silver may not be taxed at any federal, state, or local level.

Section 4: Congress shall not levy taxes on personal incomes, estates, gifts, real property, or a general sales tax

Section 5: No taxes shall be enforcible on the federal, state, or local government or on the people from any foreign entity."


(section 5 is to prevent any sort of UN tax)

Also

"The federal government shall have only those powers specifically stated in this constitution."


The commerce clause is a disaster so something has to be done about it. I'm not sure what but maybe:

"The power of congress to regulate commerce amoung the state shall be limited to commerce from one state to another. It does not include the power to regulate commerce within a state. It does not include the power to regulate primary production, such as farming, hunting, fishing, or mining. It does not include the power to regulate services, securities, or communication. It does not include the power to regulate manufacturing, transport, retail sales, possession, use, or disposal of anything. It does not include the power to regulate anything that might have a "substantial effect" on commerce, or the operations of parties not directly related to the actual transfers of ownership and possession."


War Amendment
"All wars must be formally declared. The declaration must be done beforehand or in the case of an extreme emergency it may be declared immediately afterwards"

World government Amendment
"The United States shall not be part of any world or regional government. No treaty can change any part of the this Constitution."

[tangent4ronpaul]

Congress shall pass no unfunded mandates. All current unfunded mandates are to be immediately repealed.

For every new law Congress passes, they must review and repeal 5 existing laws, until such time as the total number of Federal laws number less than 400. At that time, the total must be kept under 400 laws.

Any law that is considered unconstitutional by the public via collecting 100,000 signatures, shall be put in the queue for mandatory review.

All laws must be on a single subject and no “trailers” may be attached that are not on that specific subject. All laws with such trailers will have the trailers immediately repealed if they are not on the same subject as the original bill.

All bills under consideration must be posted for public comment IN THEIR FINAL FORM, one month prior to being voted on for public comment. Any change due to public outcry shall reset the posting time, with the changes presented and highlighted. In short, no law may be passed in less than 2 months.

All bills must be written by members of Congress. Any law that was in whole or part written by lobbyists shall be immediately repealed.

No bill shall be longer than 4,504 words – the length of the US Constitution without signatures or amendments, and no member of Congress may vote on a bill until they have read it in it's entirety.

Any law over 50 pages shall be immediately repealed.

Any bill that was passed into law between the hours of 10pm and 7am EST shall be immediately repealed.

Any bill that was passed into law when fewer than 3/4ths of the members of Congress were in attendance shall be immediately repealed.

Any bill that points to another law and makes modifications of a single word, sentence or paragraph shall be immediately repealed.

If a law is to be modified, it must be reviewed in it's entirety as to if it is Constitutional and if it has in fact had the desired effects on the problem it was passed to solve.

All laws should sunset and be reviewed for Constitutionality and effectiveness before they are voted on to be continued.

Any law that was passed on the basis of emotional appeals for justification and that used anecdotal evidence to support the need for it shall be immediately repealed.

All Federal Regulations must be passed by Congress, and not enacted by the agencies that wrote them. No agency or branch of the Federal Government may have more than 50 regulations and the regulations must abide by the same length, review, Constitutionality, and sunset provisions as Congressional laws. No more than 20 agencies may have regulations of any sort.

Congress shall operate under a modified PAYGO system, where every year it's budget shall be determined by not only paying off the DEFICITE (the interest on federal loans and debt), but also after paying off a portion of the DEBT, ideally at least 5% of the original total every year BEFORE spending on anything else.

The US Government shall not outsource or award no bid contracts.

No agency of the US Government shall operate at a profit or as a revenue generating entity using products developed at taxpayer expense. Reports, books, tapes and software shall be available at cost.

All government patents and products developed at taxpayer expense, including highways, bridges, printed matter, etc. must be public domain and may not be given to private industry to use on an exclusive basis.

The practice of using approved vendors by federal agencies for materials acquisition is to stop immediately.

Any member of Congress that has any ties to a corporation, may not vote on legislation that benefits that corporation. Stock ownership, close personal ties and former employment count.

Whichever of the 2 major parties has a minority in Congress shall have their votes weighted as a handicap so that voting along party lines would result in a 50/50 tie if everyone voted.

All voting for federal office or delegates shall be conducted in the following way:

All ballots must be paper and placed in a clear container with a lid having a slot. These containers shall be in full public view from the beginning of voting till the votes have been counted. They are to be sealed with the same type of holographic security tape used in high security government instillations (SCIF's) and further protected with serial numbers and signatures. Upon the close of voting the public is welcome to come watch and participate in the count. Those doing the count shall be chossen by lottery and equally divided between the 2 parties with a republican and a democrat paired for each voting counting team. The votes will be counted in full public view twice (by different counters) and any discrepancies between the counts will result in starting over with different people counting. At no time shall the containers leave the public view until the counting is finished and results posted.

All votes shall be counted immediately after the election and no delay is permissible. If at any time the ballot boxes leave public view, the election must be repeated from scratch for that precinct.

Entrance and exit polling by the media or reporting on same before final results are released shall be banned.

Any media organization shown to favor one candidate over the other shall immediately have their broadcast license revoked. This includes debates, broadcast and publication.

Delegates shall be awarded by county or congressional district or via a caucus process. No more winner take all states.

No money may be borrowed by the federal government from foreign countries or business interests.

No new money may be minted unless $1 is taken out of circulation and destroyed for every new $1 produced. No new money can be minted until after 1% of the total US Dollars in circulation today are removed and destroyed per year. This is to continue until the value of the dollar is once again in line with the value of gold and silver, and then must be kept in balance.

All the gold in Ft. Knox must be inventoried on live TV and the results released to the public. There must be full disclosure of all past transfers of gold from Ft. Knox along with the reason.

The federal reserve is to be immediately be abolished.

No company or corporation may control over 5% of a business market, if that business market has revenues in excess of 1 billion dollars a year.

All I can think of right now...

-n

[tangent4ronpaul]

blimp!

This is a good thread!

-n

[constituent]

"Congress shall pass no laws [.]"

"The Right of the People to Abolish"
-not as a human right, but as a legally
protected check on the gov't.

admittedly the wording would have to be worked.

[Rhys]

Congress shall pass no laws or establish any orginazation to garnish the wages or earnings of an individual; nor shall congress establish any laws or orginazations to regulate the value of trade or currancy.

that would end subsidies, taxes and the fed.

[Join The Paul Side]

1) Anybody seeking the United States Presidency should be subject to take a competency test on the Constitution, Economics, and Ethics prior to announcing their campaign. Those who score low in any field of the test shall be automaticly eliminated from running for office. (which would have eliminated Bush in 2000, and McCain in 2008)

[leonster]

Add the word "expressly" to the 10th amendment...

[Sematary]

Ok, I've only read the first page of this and I'm already disgusted. All the suggestions are to "outlaw" this or that and most of that having to do with voting procedures, campaign finance law, etc...
Do you folks really believe that is what the constitution is there for? The amendment process wasn't put in place so we could outlaw $#@!. The amendment process was put in place so that the rights of the people could be protected and rights that were previously overlooked and getting stepped on (such as the right of women to vote) could be enshrined in that document.
The one and only time an amendment was added to "outlaw" something, it failed miserably and had to be rescinded. All the suggestions I'm seeing are anti-constitution.

The only amendment I would personally offer would be to see our nation go to a parliamentary process so that there would be more voices from more directions in our legislature.

[Sematary]

I never should have read this thread. I've suddenly lost hope that we can make any real changes because what seems to be happening is that the people in this revolution who supposedly hate big government want to use the constitution to settle their own pet peeves and almost everything I've read is not a constitutional issue but an issue of law and most of it would involve the government getting MORE involved in our daily lives. Has anyone learned anything from this process yet?
Ban voting machines? People want to create an AMENDMENT TO THE CONSTITUTION for that? Are you kidding me? That's not what the amendment process nor the constitution are there for. I can see creating laws that would guarantee that the voting machinery in use and the ensuing count are correct, but banning them and using the power of the federal government to do it? That's ludicrous.
I am so disappointed right now.

[ronpaulhawaii]

In order to be eligible to vote you must have a college degree.

???????????

First amendment for me would be to send Frank Luntz and a bunch of other neo-cons to small island and watch them play survivor island for real.

LOL

I never should have read this thread. I've suddenly lost hope that we can make any real changes because what seems to be happening is that the people in this revolution who supposedly hate big government want to use the constitution to settle their own pet peeves and almost everything I've read is not a constitutional issue but an issue of law and most of it would involve the government getting MORE involved in our daily lives. Has anyone learned anything from this process yet?
Ban voting machines? People want to create an AMENDMENT TO THE CONSTITUTION for that? Are you kidding me? That's not what the amendment process nor the constitution are there for. I can see creating laws that would guarantee that the voting machinery in use and the ensuing count are correct, but banning them and using the power of the federal government to do it? That's ludicrous.
I am so disappointed right now.

+1

ISTM that task chair legislating goes with the territory. The only things that dissappoint me is the time people waste on threads like this,

[edit- I suppose entertainment is not really a waste of time. We are supposed to be having fun with this...]

(and the fact that the OP doesn't know how to post in the correct forum.)