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    Arrow Post your Consitutional Amendment ideas here

    1) There should be an amendment that outlaws all forms of torture, both foreign and domestic. This would immediately clear up all the BS floating around in the news today.

    2) Electronics in the voting process needs to be outlawed. The includes diebold touchscreens as well as electronic scanners.

    3) Political parties should be outlawed or somehow put on a level playing field with individuals.

    With these three amendments 90% of all the shenanigans could be wiped out overnight.



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    4) Knowingly authoring, or being involved in the authoring of a law that is unconstitutional will result in the immediate forced resignation of public office.

    5) Any time a public official expresses their loyalties to another country, they are forcibly removed from their public office. (LOOKING AT YOU OBAMA)

    6) Putting foreign interests above those of America (ie Israel) is treasonous, and punishable by DEATH.

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    7) Candidates are only allowed to raise $20,000,000 to fund their campaign during each phase, with a total of 3 phases.

    8) All presidential debates will be regulated for fair time and Q&A distribution

    9) No candidates will be allowed to receive any finances from corporations.
    YOU CAN TALK ABOUT IT ALL YOU WANT....ARE YOU GONNA DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT?

    http://www.garrymyers.com/SUPPORT_OUR_TROOPS.pdf

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    1) The budget must be balanced, with exemptions to times of declared war.

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    1. All voting must have verifible paper trail.
    2. Remove anchor-baby clause from 14th amendment.
    3. Repeal the 17th amendment so that Senators are appointed by State legislatures.

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    1. Maximum of two terms in federal office total.
    2. Anyone who's held federal office is never allowed to become a lobbyist.
    3. All federal office positions are paid 2x minimum wage.

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    "The right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed."

    I figure if it's in there twice they will have a harder time saying it doesn't exist.

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    Outlaw owning more than one media outlet, and no media corporation may span more than a state.



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    Right to travel written same as 2nd amendment.
    Right to privacy protected, no databases, no national ID. (4th amendment on steroids)
    No direct taxes. (oops, that's already there, so how are they doing it?)
    The words "United States" shall always mean the government.
    The words "several States united" shall always mean the several States united.

    And the big one:
    The government can never own a human being, even if they volunteer. (ends the IRS instantly)

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    I take issue with people that say that there should be a FEDERAL law prohibiting electronic voting. Have we forgotten who we are? We're Constitutionalists! The Constitutional (and practical) approach would be to work from the state level to bring back paper voting.

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    Some of these proposals are very un-libertarian and not Ron Paul-like...

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    How about we just reinstate the legally ratified "original" 13th ammendment.

    The Titles of Foreign Nobility Clause.
    Which said that no one holding a title of foreign nobility could hold office.

    This would mean that there would be no......drum roll please....are you ready for it.....

    LAWYERS to hold political office.

    Reason:
    All Attorneys are members of the BAR.
    The BAR = the British Accredited Registry.

    Reason being in old England, it was the Kings court, and commoners were not permitted to speak in the Kings court. Only specially recognized persons were allowed.
    Each of them were Registered
    with the court...which remember belongs to the King.

    Thus, anyone who is a member of the BAR holds a Title of FOREIGN NOBILITY.


    Can you even imagine how much better our society and country would be if lawyers hadn't been mucking about in government for the last nearly 200 years?


    Ahhhh now that sounds like an Utopia worth pursuing......

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    How's this one.

    The Government Really, Really, Really...... needs to follow the............

    "Constitution of the United States of America."

    I'd really like to see that!

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    Repeal of the 16th & 17th Amendments would be nice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Richie View Post
    I take issue with people that say that there should be a FEDERAL law prohibiting electronic voting. Have we forgotten who we are? We're Constitutionalists! The Constitutional (and practical) approach would be to work from the state level to bring back paper voting.
    Amending the Constitution is a Constitutional approach.

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    Every public servant (police, mayor, tax collector, etc.) every two years must take an exam on the History and Application of the Constitution they swear to uphold. Included in the exam are questions pertaining to Rights vs. Privileges. Define both, etc.
    Last edited by TheConstitutionLives; 02-13-2008 at 09:19 PM.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Hamadeh View Post
    In order to be eligible to vote you must have a college degree.
    WTF?!

    I know you're a good guy I followed a lot of your posts in the past man, but 0 points for that idea, that's extremely elitist!


    PS
    You would also have excluded, me, my co-worker, my brother, my mother, my father, my maternal grandmother, my maternal grandfather, my maternal aunt and her son/my cousin, all of whom I know cast votes on Super Tuesday for RON PAUL in their respective states.
    Last edited by Revolutn; 02-13-2008 at 09:27 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheConstitutionLives View Post
    Every public servant (police, mayor, tax collector, etc.) every two years take an exam on the History and Application of the Constitution they swear to uphold. Included in the exam are questions pertaining to Rights vs. Privileges. Define both, etc.
    ooo, ooo great idea! (a little history: China's bureaucracy was very long standing and relatively successful during medevial times because instead of nobility, they had to pass a rigorous multi-day essay exam with a limited supply of ink and paper and a ration of rice and water in order to hold a political position. The better you did, the higher you could go)


    Quote Originally Posted by Hamadeh View Post
    In order to be eligible to vote you must have a college degree.

    As much as I would love this, I'm afraid I can't endorse this in good conscience. See, the real problem would be whom will we entrust to administer the exam? Wouldn't that give a routine to usurp power from people? Remember, they used to have literacy tests to exclude blacks in South.

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    I like the amendment that was proposed that said that for every bill proposed, congress must state which clause in the Constitution gives them the power to pass it.

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    In the same way that we have spearation of Church and State, we need Spearation of Corporations and State.

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    Could we have another branch of government that checks all proposed bills, like the supreme court, but before they are voted on?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hamadeh View Post
    I'm Sorry you guys feel this way, but it would be the easiest way to eliminate the electoral college, delegate counts. Have people who are educated, and yes College educated take there tests, and know alot about the world, I guess you could as well take a constitutional test to be eligable to vote as well., not people who just go to a DMV and sign up to vote.
    And I'm sorry that you didn't see the value of the multiple responses to your authoritarian proposal.

    I saw your ads you ran, they were awesome, and you really hit the major points of Ron Paul's liberty positions very well, so surely you can not tell me you do not comprehend the level of hypocrisy you are promoting in the idea of limiting the RIGHT of voting to a mere privilege of a select few?

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    Quote Originally Posted by AFM View Post
    I like the amendment that was proposed that said that for every bill proposed, congress must state which clause in the Constitution gives them the power to pass it.
    The intention is great, but the problem is that they'd just find a bunch of clauses and refer to it again and again and again, which would just add to the paperwork but not really guaranteeing constitutional-ness of the bill.

    Quote Originally Posted by N13 View Post
    In the same way that we have spearation of Church and State, we need Spearation of Corporations and State.
    Oooo, that's good one. Ironic too as there is no actual clause "Separation of Church and State", but I definitely do think we do need a separation of state and corporation. That would solve so many problem of corporates and lobbyists' unholy alliance.

    Quote Originally Posted by Hamadeh View Post
    I'm Sorry you guys feel this way, but it would be the easiest way to eliminate the electoral college, delegate counts. Have people who are educated, and yes College educated take there tests, and know alot about the world, I guess you could as well take a constitutional test to be eligable to vote as well., not people who just go to a DMV and sign up to vote.
    Remember that Founding Fathers believed people were endowed with inalienable rights, and pretty sure that would include vote.

    Besides, I think delegates makes helluva lot of sense. A bunch of people come together and they know they're not that hot on political issues but can trust Mr. X to represent them to do his homework in electing the best official and adopting platform. This is farther more democratic than arbitrarily excluding a group of people because they couldn't meet the criteria (and who will make sure the criteria won't be unduly rigged?)

    Quote Originally Posted by Edu View Post
    Could we have another branch of government that checks all proposed bills, like the supreme court, but before they are voted on?
    It's usually the job of legislative staff to do that. The real problem is we don't have honest politicians there who doesn't think that Constitution is more than just a goddamn piece of paper.

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    First amendment for me would be to send Frank Luntz and a bunch of other neo-cons to small island and watch them play survivor island for real.



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    I like all of the ideas!

    Especially with the voting system.

    1. Voting:

    -There should be harsh penalties for any form of interference for those who want to vote including Candidates conspiring and spreading mis-information by phone, email, snail mail, media outlets.

    *Media should not feel threatened by higher powers. This takes away from freedom of the press. Media will be required to give equal coverage during the debate. If someone is blackmailing or bribing media and there are candidates blacked out, it will be investigated for conspiring to tamper with the election.

    *No more electronic voting machines.

    *Showing an ID will be mandatory. You must be an American citizen to vote.

    *Non violent voter watch groups will be encouraged to ensure poll workers are not giving misinformation. Voter watch groups will be allowed to video tape without security guards threatening them. Non-biased watchers will be appointed to make sure there is no voter tamperment.

    *Any officials caught pushing buttons to sway the election will be held responsible and punished.

    *There will be no voter disenfranchisement allowed period.

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    2. Freedom from the press

    *In times where public figures and private citizens are hounded by the press unwanted, it will be viewed of as stalking.

    The press has not only helped give publicity but also helped destroy lives and create an illusion that public figures deserve to be stalked because of how much money they make and because the press made them a star.

    *Any media outlet that has captured photos of a celebrity on the spot without a formal agreement to an interview will have to pay royalty fees to the celebrity for profiting off of someone's image.


    *Private citizens and celebrities are protected by harrassment of the press that overstep the boundaries of privacy laws.

    *This does not apply to court cases and actual upcoming news, mutal agreement to interviews.

    *Media will not be allowed to incriminate citizens turning the individual into guilty before proven innocent case. Grilling of a citizen over an upcoming court case or playing the role of a prosecutor for all to see is a case of character assasination.

    (This idea came to me after Melinda Duckett who ended her life one day after Nancy Grace grilled her over her missing son painting Melinda Duckett as a murderer. Nancy Grace also showed a preference for Melinda's ex-husband Josh Duckett who had some crooked cops in his family.)

    This is a disgrace to journalism.

    http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/story?id=2448050


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    3. Anti-police brutality act

    * Police officers are not supposed to be militant. Their duty is to protect and serve the people. Instead, now they view every single person as a potential criminal.

    *Officers will not just get a slap on the wrist for brutality. Depending on the case, minimum will be a fine; abusing any citizens using any weapon, objects to use as weapons on citizens or beating someone will be a fine plus losing job; Murder will be investigated fully. The officer will have to sit in jail. If jury finds the officer guilty, the officer will get the same amount of time a citizen would.

    *Psychological torture on non-violent criminals is not allowed.

    *Anyone in the police caught covering up crimes will be charged with covering up the crime. Backing up a crooked police officer(s) and covering up a police officer's crime will result in job loss immediately if on a low scale. If on high scale cover up, possible prison sentence and loss of job immediately.
    Last edited by HollyforRP; 02-13-2008 at 09:49 PM.

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    No One wants an amendment for balanced budgets?

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    28. The use of electronics or any other form of advanced technology is hereby strictly forbidden in the process of any election.

    29. All votes for the election of any federal position must be recounted.

    30. Attaching items to bills in Congress is hereby forbidden. Each bill will address one piece of legislation and one piece only.

    31. Any notion of pre-emptive war is strictly forbidden.

    32. Expansion of the Judicial branch. When Americans lose faith in the Supreme Court, they may hold Judicial Conventions in which when 3/4 of these said legislatures agree, may remove Justices from the Supreme Court on the notion that they are not defending and protecting the Constitution of the United States.

    33. All mentioned Conventions in this Constitution shall be defined by the following: That each convention consists of at least 50 individuals, that the Presiding officer of each convention be the Governor of the state, and that the state decides the selection criteria or process of choosing the 50 delegates.

    34. Presidential candidates may no longer raise funds from the public or spend money on anything other than traveling.

    35. With historical proof of inefficiency, any sort of National Bank is hereby forbidden.

    36. 22nd Amendment repealed. An individual can serve two terms as President of the United States without question. To qualify for an additional term, the incumbent President must have an average approval rating of 85% in the final three years of his current term. If a President is this successful in his terms in office, in theory he will have no term limit. The approval rating will be determined by a Division I University with the Universities rotating with each administration. Only an incumbent President may qualify for a third or more term.

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    Repeal of the 16th amendment. Government never should have been given the power to tax the income of individuals. It punishes productivity, aggravates millions, and is completely unnecessary to finance federal government.

    Rights of non-citizens. Are illegal aliens granted constitutional rights? Prisoners in Gitmo? Astronauts in space? Ambiguity on whom the constitution applies (and where) really need to be defined, and the ability for government suspend rights guaranteed by the constitution nullified.

    Abortion. Currently the federal government has no authority over abortion, either to make it legally available for women or to prohibit it. Despite what the courts say, there is nothing in the constitution that addresses this. If there is going to be a federal policy, lets amend the constitution to establish it as a right or make it illegal; otherwise the federal government should stay the heck out of it.

    Secession. This issue is so huge, I'm surprised it hasn't been addressed before. Heck, we fought a civil war over this! The constitution sets out criteria for joining the United States; it makes no mention of leaving the union. This really needs to be addressed: people should be free to have the choice to leave the union without violence, preferably by popular vote of the state (Hawaii would be the first to go). Also covered should be the splitting up of states (like Texas or California), merging (Dakotas), and eviction or kicking out of a state by the rest of the country (which may happen to California eventually).

    Highest law of the land. This one shouldn't be necessary, but there should be an amendment that says the US Constitution is the highest law of the land, above organizations like the UN, NATO, NAFTA, the proposed North American Union, and any other international organization. Also there should be *no* circumstances under which the constitution should be suspended, be it martial law or what have you.

  33. #29
    Quote Originally Posted by forsmant View Post
    No One wants an amendment for balanced budgets?
    See post #4 (I don't like the war part because they would run continuous wars)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hamadeh View Post
    I'm Sorry you guys feel this way, but it would be the easiest way to eliminate the electoral college, delegate counts. Have people who are educated, and yes College educated take there tests, and know alot about the world, I guess you could as well take a constitutional test to be eligable to vote as well., not people who just go to a DMV and sign up to vote.
    so bill gates can't vote, but someone who graduated community college with a 2.0 can?

    for most people, a college diploma is simply a piece of information they can put on their resume. it isn't necessarily indicative of intelligence.
    Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch.

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